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Floyd L. Davidson

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(Msg. 46) Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 9:21 am
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TH O <tho.TakeThisOut@tho.23.invalid> wrote:
>In article <ZuSdnQv9C-SoDU7anZ2dnUVZ_oaonZ2d.TakeThisOut@comcast.com>,
> "William Graham" <weg9.TakeThisOut@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> Date: 2070
>> Place: The attic of grandpa's old place, just before we put it on the
>> market.
>> Found in a box: A bunch of CD's with Grandpa's old pictures on
>> them.......
>
>They are probably coasters because he used CD-Rs and didn't realize that
>they are not archival media and can fail over years.
>
>> Found in a box: A bunch of grandpa's old slides.

Year: 2500
Place: Every Museum in the World

Found: Thousands of reproducable 500 year old digital images,
all as "new" as they were when taken.

Not Found: Even one surviving photograph that preceeded digital
archiving.

>If they haven't melted from the attic heat, there is a greater chance of
>them being viewable. Smile

Viewable, but in horribly faded condition.

>
>> Which are more likely to be viewed and enjoyed by the grandkids? Will the
>> computers of 2070 even be able to accept the CD's of 2008? And, even if they
>> are, will the grandkids ever get around to actually installing them in a
>> machine? For sure, they won't have one with them in that attic. But they
>> will be able to hold a slide up to the light and look at it.

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(Msg. 47) Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 9:48 am
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(Msg. 48) Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 9:49 am
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(Msg. 49) Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 9:50 am
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(Msg. 50) Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 10:04 am
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(Msg. 51) Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 10:08 am
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(Msg. 52) Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 11:29 am
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"The DaveŠ" <no.RemoveThis@no.com> wrote:

>If everything you've said about this in this thread is true, and I have
>nothing with which to dispute it, then it seems that Canon actually
>made the better long-term choice in changing everything to EF as far as
>the customer is concerned.


I agree. However, I suspect that neither you nor I had a big
investment in Canon FD lenses at the time the EOS system was
introduced.

A friend was heavily into Canon equipment and was very annoyed. Canon
had tried AF versions of the FD mount (in the T80 if I recall
correctly) and he felt reassured that Canon would stay with FD. When
they announced EOS, he was livid.

He is still using Canon T90s and FD lenses and still uses only film!
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(Msg. 53) Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 3:50 pm
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Rita Berkowitz <ritaberk2008 RemoveThis @aol.com> wrote:
>rwalker wrote:
>
>>>> since I have all the Canon stuff worked out of my blood and
>>>> it's Nikon forever.
>>
>> What a stupid attitude.
>
>Why? Because you can't do it?

Do you think that Nikon cares whether you idolize them or not?

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Rita Berkowitz

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(Msg. 54) Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 8:44 pm
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Floyd L. Davidson

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(Msg. 55) Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 8:44 pm
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"William Graham" <weg9.RemoveThis@comcast.net> wrote:
>"Floyd L. Davidson" <floyd.RemoveThis@apaflo.com> wrote in message
>news:87tzjfyczv.fld@apaflo.com...
>> TH O <tho.RemoveThis@tho.23.invalid> wrote:
>>>In article <ZuSdnQv9C-SoDU7anZ2dnUVZ_oaonZ2d.RemoveThis@comcast.com>,
>>> "William Graham" <weg9.RemoveThis@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Date: 2070
>>>> Place: The attic of grandpa's old place, just before we put it on the
>>>> market.
>>>> Found in a box: A bunch of CD's with Grandpa's old pictures on
>>>> them.......
>>>
>>>They are probably coasters because he used CD-Rs and didn't realize that
>>>they are not archival media and can fail over years.
>>>
>>>> Found in a box: A bunch of grandpa's old slides.
>>
>> Year: 2500
>> Place: Every Museum in the World
>>
>> Found: Thousands of reproducable 500 year old digital images,
>> all as "new" as they were when taken.
>>
>> Not Found: Even one surviving photograph that preceeded digital
>> archiving.
>>
>>>If they haven't melted from the attic heat, there is a greater chance of
>>>them being viewable. Smile
>>
>> Viewable, but in horribly faded condition.
>>
>>>
>>>> Which are more likely to be viewed and enjoyed by the grandkids? Will
>>>> the
>>>> computers of 2070 even be able to accept the CD's of 2008? And, even if
>>>> they
>>>> are, will the grandkids ever get around to actually installing them in a
>>>> machine? For sure, they won't have one with them in that attic. But they
>>>> will be able to hold a slide up to the light and look at it.
>
>Not likely there will be any originals left by 2500, but I scan my slides
>too, (The ones that are worth it) so there is some possibility that they
>might make it till then. The question is, will there be anything in 2500 at
>all?

The lifeforms on Mars may be sending probes by then, to
see if there actually used to be water on this planet...

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William Graham

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(Msg. 56) Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 9:32 pm
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"Floyd L. Davidson" <floyd.RemoveThis@apaflo.com> wrote in message
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> TH O <tho.RemoveThis@tho.23.invalid> wrote:
>>In article <ZuSdnQv9C-SoDU7anZ2dnUVZ_oaonZ2d.RemoveThis@comcast.com>,
>> "William Graham" <weg9.RemoveThis@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Date: 2070
>>> Place: The attic of grandpa's old place, just before we put it on the
>>> market.
>>> Found in a box: A bunch of CD's with Grandpa's old pictures on
>>> them.......
>>
>>They are probably coasters because he used CD-Rs and didn't realize that
>>they are not archival media and can fail over years.
>>
>>> Found in a box: A bunch of grandpa's old slides.
>
> Year: 2500
> Place: Every Museum in the World
>
> Found: Thousands of reproducable 500 year old digital images,
> all as "new" as they were when taken.
>
> Not Found: Even one surviving photograph that preceeded digital
> archiving.
>
>>If they haven't melted from the attic heat, there is a greater chance of
>>them being viewable. Smile
>
> Viewable, but in horribly faded condition.
>
>>
>>> Which are more likely to be viewed and enjoyed by the grandkids? Will
>>> the
>>> computers of 2070 even be able to accept the CD's of 2008? And, even if
>>> they
>>> are, will the grandkids ever get around to actually installing them in a
>>> machine? For sure, they won't have one with them in that attic. But they
>>> will be able to hold a slide up to the light and look at it.

Not likely there will be any originals left by 2500, but I scan my slides
too, (The ones that are worth it) so there is some possibility that they
might make it till then. The question is, will there be anything in 2500 at
all?
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XxYyZz

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(Msg. 57) Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 10:19 pm
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"The DaveŠ" <no RemoveThis @no.com> wrote in message
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>> dj_nme wrote:
>> > Rita Berkowitz wrote:
>> > Now you are starting to see the real deal, but your timeframe is
>> > totally wrong unless you plan on only living 18-months.
>>
>> So' you expect the camera to stop functioning after only 18 months?
>> I would call the camera lemon if that was the case.
>
> Must've bought the 'Mission Impossible' model.

Quite true. Rita thinks that purchashing an expensive camera will allow
'her' to take great photos. So Rita does have the 'Mission Impossible' model.
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(Msg. 58) Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 12:00 am
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> Rita Berkowitz <ritaberk2008.DeleteThis@aol.com> wrote:
>>rwalker wrote:
>>
>>>>> since I have all the Canon stuff worked out of my blood and
>>>>> it's Nikon forever.
>>>
>>> What a stupid attitude.
>>
>>Why? Because you can't do it?
>
No, because it's stupid to have a blind loyalty to a manufacturer. But I
don't expect you to have the intelligence to realize that.
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(Msg. 59) Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 9:51 pm
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> Rita Berkowitz wrote:
> > John Sheehy wrote:
> > It's just a machine, sucker.
>
> Yep, and it should be sold after 18-months of use.

Why?
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(Msg. 60) Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 9:51 pm
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> Rita Berkowitz wrote:
> The DaveŠ wrote:
>
> > If everything you've said about this in this thread is true, and I
> > have nothing with which to dispute it, then it seems that Canon
> > actually made the better long-term choice in changing everything to
> > EF as far as the customer is concerned.
>
> I'm not sure about this. In my opinion FDs had much better build
> quality, optics, and IQ than the EFs. Funny thing is Canon didn't
> gain any ground in optical and IQ. Even a simple comparison of
> Canon's overpriced 85/1.2 to Nikon's 85/1.4 clearly shows most Canon
> shooters would rather have the Nikon because of the much better
> optics and IQ. The list goes on. Canon's 16-35/2.8L II is still a
> dog compared to Nikon's 17-35/2.8. And now with Nikon's 14-24/2.8
> and 24-70/2.8 Canon is so far in the dust. The EF mounting system
> bought Canon nothing more than a cheaper and easier to manufacture
> mounting system at the expense of sacrificing what their customers
> want and need.

Subjective and biased consumer reviews aside... why would the mounting
necessarily affect the glass itself?
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