Nikon D2x(s) Owners Are Kicking And Screaming!

"PixelPix" <mail DeleteThis @pixelpix.com.au> wrote in message
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On Dec 6, 2:24 pm, Rita Ä Berkowitz <ritaberk2O04 @aol.com> wrote:

> even Canon's new flagship models.
>
> Rita

yeah right! LOL

I don't like to point this out - having a D3 on order BUT...
Nikon's favourite child, Ken Rockwell (LOL) has conceded the D3 pictures
aren't as sharp as a 5D image!

I rather like Nikon's High ISO noise. It looks more like film grain than
Canon noise and it seems to provide more detail at high ISO than a 5D does.
Interesting that the D3 is 3 times the price of a 5D but as far as can be
derived from early tests, isn't all that much better than a 5D.

Early days, time will tell as this saga of the great saviour of anti
Canonites starts to show it colours (and what colours they are too!). There
is a "D2x" setting on the new camera so it's images won't look too radically
different. I'm personally not impressed by over saturated colour. I mean how
many degrees of red are there?

Douglas
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"Rita Ä Berkowitz" <ritaberk2O04 @aol.com> wrote in message
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> Douglas wrote:
>
>> I don't like to point this out - having a D3 on order BUT...
>> Nikon's favourite child, Ken Rockwell (LOL) has conceded the D3
>> pictures aren't as sharp as a 5D image!

Yeah. Gospel. Well, at least he shot JPGS at default settings.

>
> That's good, because whatever he says you know it is nothing more than
> bullshit to generate web hits. It'll be fine, that I'm certain of. Now
> if
> only the damn D3 would arrive!
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On Dec 7, 3:11 am, "Rita Ä Berkowitz" <ritaberk2O04 @aol.com> wrote:
> Douglas wrote:
> > I don't like to point this out - having a D3 on order BUT...
> > Nikon's favourite child, Ken Rockwell (LOL) has conceded the D3
> > pictures aren't as sharp as a 5D image!
>
> That's good, because whatever he says you know it is nothing more than
> bullshit to generate web hits. It'll be fine, that I'm certain of. Now if
> only the damn D3 would arrive!
>
> Rita

Perhaps the D3 has made delivery drivers obsolete too? LOL
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I'm not,

I'm keeping the D2Xs for 2nd body and thinking about buying another one for
a remote cam.

Hanging out for Saturday to shoot basketball in low light with the D3 w00t.

Mick Brown


On 6/12/07 3:24 PM, in article 13leuer1bbtb82.DeleteThis@news.supernews.com, "Rita Ä
Berkowitz" <ritaberk2O04 @aol.com> wrote:

> Because they are getting sub-$2,000 offers for their used equipment. A lot
> of them are now wishing they followed the 18-month rule. Seems the new D3
> is pushing many cameras towards obsolescence, even Canon's new flagship
> models.
>
>
>
>
>
> Rita
>
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Rita Ä Berkowitz <ritaberk2O04 @aol.com> wrote in
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> Because they are getting sub-$2,000 offers for their used equipment.
> A lot of them are now wishing they followed the 18-month rule. Seems
> the new D3 is pushing many cameras towards obsolescence, even Canon's
> new flagship models.

Canon's new models are great cameras. How can the D3's 12 MP compare to
the 1DSmk3's 22MP? Let's not get carried away.


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On Dec 10, 5:22 pm, Michael Brown <mich....DeleteThis@photoworx.com.au> wrote:
> It doesn't compare, the D3 is marketed to PJ & Sports photographers, which
> is same market as the 1Dmk3 not the S. Nikon has yet to release a high end
> studio camera.

Well it does kinda compare if you want to look at the best each
company has to offer.... or if the local Nikon troll makes claims
referring to the two.

What I don't get is the "studio" camera term?? Is high resolution the
domain of studio photographers only? Is it wrong to use high res at a
sporting event?

There are plenty of sports togs that shoot high res, just look at F1
where 1DsMkII are common place.
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On Dec 10, 7:32 pm, Michael Brown <mich....TakeThisOut@photoworx.com.au> wrote:
> Actually they are using the 1DmkII not the 1DsMkII,
> the big difference is the file handling and speed.


> I have never seen any pro shooter using the S version on any of the
> sidelines I have been to. (I'm not saying that none have BTW)
>
> 1DMkII = 8.5 fps < faster frame rate better for sport
> 1DsMkII = 4 fps
>
> 1DMkII = ~8Mp < smaller file sizes for transmitting
> 1DsMkII = ~16Mp
>
> Believe it or not, sports PJ's and other PJ's prefer the smaller size,
> mainly due to the time it would take to upload images to the wire services.
> The bigger file sizes would kill them. Also there is no need for the bigger
> files for use in most media, like papers etc.

I understand all that, but not all sports shooters are under the pump
of the wire and I would suggest that you have another look at the F1
circuit. Even at our own V8 Supercars 1DsMkII are common.

>
> I probably shouldn't have used the term "studio", I meant more for studio,
> wedding, commercial etc etc.
>
> And hey, while I am a Nikon user, I would love to have one of those bad boys
> (the S model) to use for my weddings, they give out an exceptional image
> quality. (though the D3 is looking good enough)
>
> Mick Brown
>
> Just a note, the 1DsMkIII has now been boosted up to 10fps, but I would
> doubt that any PJ's would want to fork out the extra cash for it as they
> would still have to resize the images down to transmit, they will still go
> for the non S version (once the AF probs are fixed)

it's 5 fps.
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On Dec 10, 9:24 pm, Michael Brown <mich....RemoveThis@photoworx.com.au> wrote:
> On 10/12/07 9:32 PM, in article
> d9f0802c-da44-40f4-830e-1dece8507....RemoveThis@s12g2000prg.googlegroups.com,
>
>
>
> "PixelPix" <m....RemoveThis@pixelpix.com.au> wrote:
> > On Dec 10, 7:32 pm, Michael Brown <mich....RemoveThis@photoworx.com.au> wrote:
> >> Actually they are using the 1DmkII not the 1DsMkII,
> >> the big difference is the file handling and speed.
>
> >> I have never seen any pro shooter using the S version on any of the
> >> sidelines I have been to. (I'm not saying that none have BTW)
>
> >> 1DMkII = 8.5 fps < faster frame rate better for sport
> >> 1DsMkII = 4 fps
>
> >> 1DMkII = ~8Mp < smaller file sizes for transmitting
> >> 1DsMkII = ~16Mp
>
> >> Believe it or not, sports PJ's and other PJ's prefer the smaller size,
> >> mainly due to the time it would take to upload images to the wire services.
> >> The bigger file sizes would kill them. Also there is no need for the bigger
> >> files for use in most media, like papers etc.
>
> > I understand all that, but not all sports shooters are under the pump
> > of the wire and I would suggest that you have another look at the F1
> > circuit. Even at our own V8 Supercars 1DsMkII are common.
>
> >> I probably shouldn't have used the term "studio", I meant more for studio,
> >> wedding, commercial etc etc.
>
> >> And hey, while I am a Nikon user, I would love to have one of those bad boys
> >> (the S model) to use for my weddings, they give out an exceptional image
> >> quality. (though the D3 is looking good enough)
>
> >> Mick Brown
>
> >> Just a note, the 1DsMkIII has now been boosted up to 10fps, but I would
> >> doubt that any PJ's would want to fork out the extra cash for it as they
> >> would still have to resize the images down to transmit, they will still go
> >> for the non S version (once the AF probs are fixed)
>
> > it's 5 fps.
>
> OOPS So it is.
>
> I will have to wait until next year to see the 1DSMk3 or 2's, I must say
> that surprises me seeing that they are so slow in the fps.

Well 5 aint slow in the old measure, but by today's standards I guess
so.

You gotta remember that it's pulling 21mp of data off the sucker
though.
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On Dec 10, 9:28 pm, Rita Ä Berkowitz <ritaberk2O04 @aol.com> wrote:
> PixelPix wrote:
> >> It doesn't compare, the D3 is marketed to PJ & Sports photographers,
> >> which is same market as the 1Dmk3 not the S. Nikon has yet to
> >> release a high end studio camera.
>
> > Well it does kinda compare if you want to look at the best each
> > company has to offer.... or if the local Nikon troll makes claims
> > referring to the two.
>
> We've been down this road. In an earlier post I did say that the comparison
> is apples to oranges. Had the D3 sported a 20+ MP sensor the 1Ds Mk III
> would have its tail between its legs like a scalded dog limping home.

In an earlier post you also said that "The D3 Seals The 1Ds Mk III's
Fate!" So it's ok to put apples and oranges together when it suits
the purposes of your pathetic trolling, but not when it actually comes
down to the real McCoy.

....and then you have resort to comparisons with non-existent
cameras!! God you are getting more pathetic with every post!!
bwhahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!

> As it stands, the D3's image and build quality are leaps ahead and you or anyone
> else can't deny that.

Actually people can make up their own mind.... keep posting your links
& claims, as they will only help display how much of a troll you
really are.

> Of course, no 1D s Mk III owner will admit that since
> they are still trying to tell themselves they got "a lot more" for that
> extra $3,000.
>
> > What I don't get is the "studio" camera term?? Is high resolution the
> > domain of studio photographers only? Is it wrong to use high res at a
> > sporting event?
>
> Well, the 1Ds Mk III is a slug and moves like one. You're not going to race
> a slug against a hare, are you? Maybe you would use a turtle?

Funny, but it only takes one frame to get "the" shot and many of the
good togs don't need to go blazing away at 10fps... or even 5fps for
that matter.

>
> > There are plenty of sports togs that shoot high res, just look at F1
> > where 1DsMkII are common place.
>
> Yes, taking pics of tires stacked in the pit area. God forbid if one of the
> pit crew rolled one out to the car.
>
> Rita

Time for you to go back under the bridge....
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