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Bruce

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(Msg. 31) Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 2:25 pm
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On Thu, 13 May 2010 15:12:32 +0100, "GM1925" wrote:

>"Bruce" wrote in message
>
>>>> The iPad is a trinket. Like jewellery, it serves no useful purpose
>>>> except to adorn. Like the brand on an item of clothing, it makes a
>>>> statement about the wearer.
>>>
>>>nonsense.
>>>
>>>> Style before substance. Cool but fundamentally useless. Wink
>>>
>>>maybe to you it's useless but not to the nearly two million (by now)
>>>who bought one.
>>
>>
>> Two million lemmings cannot be wrong, eh?
>
>
>LOL. There are over a billion smokers. Doesn't make it a particularly
>great product..


4 million people a week buy the National Enquirer. 47 million people
a day buy food from McDonalds.

Popularity is hardly a sign of excellence, is it? Wink

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(Msg. 32) Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 4:06 pm
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In article , Bruce
wrote:

> Whereas the iPad is all about being seen with one. Dress to impress!
> It's more a fashion item than something genuinely useful.

do you think the same about the kindle? because the ipad is in many
ways, a kindle on steroids.

> If the iPad was something that other people couldn't see the owner
> using, far fewer people would buy one. It is all about the cool aura
> that they believe goes with owning one.

plenty of people use the ipad at home, on the couch, in bed, in places
where they *can't* be seen.

> It is very clever marketing. Since the earliest Mac days, Apple has
> been very good at making the company's products particularly desirable
> in order to charge premium prices.

nope. in the early mac days, their marketing was horrible.

> Most Apple products are also
> useful, and work well. But occasionally, something comes along from
> Apple that is just as attractive to look at and "play" with as the
> more useful devices, but is basically pointless.

so how do you explain that it's one of the best selling products of any
kind, selling one million units in less than one month? and that it
caused two of its competitors to cancel their tablets *before* they
even shipped?

> Welcome to iPad.

welcome to nonsensical criticisms.

> The photo equivalent is people wanting to be seen with advanced and/or
> expensive equipment, accessories or even software that they have no
> use for and/or are incapable of getting good results from.

nope.

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(Msg. 33) Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 6:25 am
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On Thu, 13 May 2010 18:02:20 -0700, Mike Russell
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>Thank Steve's reality warp, which changes reality as well as people's
>perception of it.


Brilliant marketing, as I said.
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Castor Nageur

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(Msg. 34) Posted: Sat May 15, 2010 5:25 pm
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Gary Edstrom écrivait



> "The law of supply and demand."
>
> If more people want something than the supply available, the price
> rises until the demand drops. There is nothing new about that.

You are probably right.
I got my scanner on eBay but before buying it, I watched some of them to
get an idea of the price.
And I was suprised to see that many people (14 to 20 ebayers) put a bid on
it (which of course raise the final price).
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Castor Nageur

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(Msg. 35) Posted: Sat May 15, 2010 5:25 pm
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"GM1925" écrivait


> Just to add, the technology has been there for a while. Don't forget
> ILM had to get the video footage onto their SGI's before adding their
> 'magic'. Although, of course they were dealing with big uncut rolls of
> film and were possibly scanning at lower resolutions.
>
> Ironically, I knew of a company that used to ship their rolls of film
> to France to convert to digital quite a while back. The French
> company would process the film, tape the rolls together and batch scan
> them.
>
> The reality though is that companies would have to be crazy to go
> through this process now-a-days, but there are still two distinct
> markets out there for film scanners. Consumers who want to convert
> old film to digital themselves and businesses who would provide a
> service to convert the film to digital for them (but not at
> astronomical prices).
>
> In both cases, the chances are that the film would have already been
> cut in the vast majority of cases. Therefore, the solution would be
> to develop a film scanner that is capable of automated loading and
> scanning 4/6 strips of negs, whereby you batch load them, press the
> scan button and let the scanner/computer do all the work.

Thanks for your very interesting post about film scanners technologies.
As far as I am concerned, I am a just a no-professional who want to convert
all his old family films to digital pictures. I do not need to batch
because I have some time to do it. I even prefer doing it manually because
some photos will need the ROC filter and some will not.

As you said, nowadays it is very difficult to find a film scanner at
affordable price so that's why I bought mine on eBay.
Many people probably had the same idea and I suppose that's why this film
scanner (Nikon Coolscan V ED) is now more expensive than the brand new
price when it was sold.
Again as you said, the photo companies seems to have abandonned the film
scanner technology to make some researches on digital cameras.
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Ted Nolan <tednolan>

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(Msg. 36) Posted: Sat May 15, 2010 6:25 pm
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In article ,
Castor Nageur wrote:
>"GM1925" écrivait
>
>
>> Just to add, the technology has been there for a while. Don't forget
>> ILM had to get the video footage onto their SGI's before adding their
>> 'magic'. Although, of course they were dealing with big uncut rolls of
>> film and were possibly scanning at lower resolutions.
>>
>> Ironically, I knew of a company that used to ship their rolls of film
>> to France to convert to digital quite a while back. The French
>> company would process the film, tape the rolls together and batch scan
>> them.
>>
>> The reality though is that companies would have to be crazy to go
>> through this process now-a-days, but there are still two distinct
>> markets out there for film scanners. Consumers who want to convert
>> old film to digital themselves and businesses who would provide a
>> service to convert the film to digital for them (but not at
>> astronomical prices).
>>
>> In both cases, the chances are that the film would have already been
>> cut in the vast majority of cases. Therefore, the solution would be
>> to develop a film scanner that is capable of automated loading and
>> scanning 4/6 strips of negs, whereby you batch load them, press the
>> scan button and let the scanner/computer do all the work.
>
>Thanks for your very interesting post about film scanners technologies.
>As far as I am concerned, I am a just a no-professional who want to convert
>all his old family films to digital pictures. I do not need to batch
>because I have some time to do it. I even prefer doing it manually because
>some photos will need the ROC filter and some will not.
>
>As you said, nowadays it is very difficult to find a film scanner at
>affordable price so that's why I bought mine on eBay.
>Many people probably had the same idea and I suppose that's why this film
>scanner (Nikon Coolscan V ED) is now more expensive than the brand new
>price when it was sold.
>Again as you said, the photo companies seems to have abandonned the film
>scanner technology to make some researches on digital cameras.
>
>

I got a Nikon Super Coolscan 9000 about two years ago. I'm pretty happy
with it, but just be aware even if you "have some time to do it", these
things are *SLOW*. I guess my thought before actually looking into buying
a scanner was that you would engage the sprockets on your 35mm strips
and it would feed them in, frame them and scan them bam bam bam.

Even after I realized I would have to load the negative strips two
at a time into the trays and frame them myself, I figured each tray
would go pretty quickly. Instead, I figure it takes about 2 hours
to go through a roll of 24 exposures...


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Castor Nageur

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(Msg. 37) Posted: Sun May 16, 2010 5:27 am
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ted.DeleteThis@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) écrivait


> I got a Nikon Super Coolscan 9000 about two years ago. I'm pretty
> happy with it, but just be aware even if you "have some time to do
> it", these things are *SLOW*. I guess my thought before actually
> looking into buying a scanner was that you would engage the sprockets
> on your 35mm strips and it would feed them in, frame them and scan
> them bam bam bam.
>
> Even after I realized I would have to load the negative strips two
> at a time into the trays and frame them myself, I figured each tray
> would go pretty quickly. Instead, I figure it takes about 2 hours
> to go through a roll of 24 exposures...

I found this Nikon accessory : I suppose you need to have an uncut film
roll, you load in into the charger and everything is done automatically:

http://www.adorama.com/Als/ProductPage/INKSA30.html

All my films are cut in strips of 4 frames so this would not work for me.
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(Msg. 38) Posted: Sun May 16, 2010 5:44 pm
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"Gary Edstrom" wrote in message

> On Wed, 12 May 2010 17:14:26 -0400, nospam
> wrote:
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>>In article , Gary Edstrom
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I have an CoolScan 9000 ED that I purchased in March of 2005. I still
>>> have a use for it, so I am not planning on selling it anytime soon. I
>>> have really liked it. It has done a great job. The only down side is
>>> that it only supports the FireWire interface.
>>
>>why is firewire a downside? it's faster and more reliable than usb.
>
> Because fewer and fewer new computers are providing FireWire support.
> Yes, I know that you can get adapters, but it's nice when the capability
> is built-in. Currently, the only computer I have that can talk to it is
> a Sony VAIO that I purchased in 2002. None of my 3 newer computers have
> the support.

If you build your own PCs it isn't a problem. The last three motherboards I
bought, over the last year or two, all have 1394 (FireWire) built in, both a
port on the back I/O panel and also a connector on the motherboard for a
case-front port. Many new computer cases come with the front 1394 port and
wiring already in place.

Dunno about laptops though as I have little use for those.
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(Msg. 39) Posted: Mon May 31, 2010 5:57 am
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Rich wrote:
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> On May 12, 4:51 pm, Castor Nageur wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I live in France and just ordered (from eBay) a Nikon Coolscan V ED scanner
> > (for scanning slides) for about $600 which is quite the price of the brand
> > new item when it was sold in the photo shops.
> >
> > Today, the scanner is not sold anymore so the only way to get it is to buy
> > the vintage version.
> >
> > I do not understand why the vintage version is so and even much expensive
> > than the initial brand new one.
> > Today, I saw one which was sold for $1100 ! ($500 more than the brand new).
> >
> > * Do you have an idea ?
>
> Get an Epson V750.


No, he should seriously consider the Hewlett-Packard "ScanJet G4050" flatbed.
It's much cheaper and can scan as many as thirty 35mm negative frames (or up
to sixteen 35mm slides) at a time, and is also compatible with larger film
formats.

In April of 2009, I obtained a secondhand, refurbished G4050, via eBay ($85
USD). I've still barely used it, but, my brief experience was very promising.

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