Why the Nikon Coolscan V ED is so expensive event on vinta..

On 12 May 2010 20:51:04 GMT, Castor Nageur
wrote:

>Hi all,
>
>I live in France and just ordered (from eBay) a Nikon Coolscan V ED scanner
>(for scanning slides) for about $600 which is quite the price of the brand
>new item when it was sold in the photo shops.
>
>Today, the scanner is not sold anymore so the only way to get it is to buy
>the vintage version.
>
>I do not understand why the vintage version is so and even much expensive
>than the initial brand new one.
>Today, I saw one which was sold for $1100 ! ($500 more than the brand new).
>
>* Do you have an idea ?

The short answer:

"The law of supply and demand."

If more people want something than the supply available, the price rises
until the demand drops. There is nothing new about that.

I have an CoolScan 9000 ED that I purchased in March of 2005. I still
have a use for it, so I am not planning on selling it anytime soon. I
have really liked it. It has done a great job. The only down side is
that it only supports the FireWire interface.

Gary
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In article , Gary Edstrom
wrote:

> I have an CoolScan 9000 ED that I purchased in March of 2005. I still
> have a use for it, so I am not planning on selling it anytime soon. I
> have really liked it. It has done a great job. The only down side is
> that it only supports the FireWire interface.

why is firewire a downside? it's faster and more reliable than usb.
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On Wed, 12 May 2010 17:14:26 -0400, nospam
wrote:

>In article , Gary Edstrom
> wrote:
>
>> I have an CoolScan 9000 ED that I purchased in March of 2005. I still
>> have a use for it, so I am not planning on selling it anytime soon. I
>> have really liked it. It has done a great job. The only down side is
>> that it only supports the FireWire interface.
>
>why is firewire a downside? it's faster and more reliable than usb.

Because fewer and fewer new computers are providing FireWire support.
Yes, I know that you can get adapters, but it's nice when the capability
is built-in. Currently, the only computer I have that can talk to it is
a Sony VAIO that I purchased in 2002. None of my 3 newer computers have
the support.

Gary
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On 5/12/2010 5:14 PM, nospam wrote:
> In article , Gary Edstrom
> wrote:
>
>> I have an CoolScan 9000 ED that I purchased in March of 2005. I still
>> have a use for it, so I am not planning on selling it anytime soon. I
>> have really liked it. It has done a great job. The only down side is
>> that it only supports the FireWire interface.
>
> why is firewire a downside? it's faster and more reliable than usb.

Well an obvious downside is that not every machine has a Firewire port.
Even Apple seems to be in the process of abandoning it.
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In article ,
"J. Clarke" wrote:

> On 5/12/2010 5:14 PM, nospam wrote:
> > In article , Gary Edstrom
> > wrote:
> >
> >> I have an CoolScan 9000 ED that I purchased in March of 2005. I still
> >> have a use for it, so I am not planning on selling it anytime soon. I
> >> have really liked it. It has done a great job. The only down side is
> >> that it only supports the FireWire interface.
> >
> > why is firewire a downside? it's faster and more reliable than usb.
>
> Well an obvious downside is that not every machine has a Firewire port.
> Even Apple seems to be in the process of abandoning it.

Not exactly. I have a new Mac and it supports Fire Wire up to 800 and
with adapters can use FW 400.

Just what do you have replacing FW or even newer USB connections? Even
Steve Jobs knows that he cannot market a new computer with no
connectivity.

Naw, if FW or USB is replaced we will be hearing about its development
years before it becomes the only supported connection. And, I hear
none.
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On 2010-05-12 17:32:26 -0400, Gary Edstrom said:

> On Wed, 12 May 2010 17:14:26 -0400, nospam
> wrote:
>
>> In article , Gary Edstrom
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I have an CoolScan 9000 ED that I purchased in March of 2005. I still
>>> have a use for it, so I am not planning on selling it anytime soon. I
>>> have really liked it. It has done a great job. The only down side is
>>> that it only supports the FireWire interface.
>>
>> why is firewire a downside? it's faster and more reliable than usb.
>
> Because fewer and fewer new computers are providing FireWire support.
> Yes, I know that you can get adapters, but it's nice when the capability
> is built-in. Currently, the only computer I have that can talk to it is
> a Sony VAIO that I purchased in 2002. None of my 3 newer computers have
> the support.
>
> Gary

Correct me if I'm wrong, but all the Macs, from entry level laptop,
through the MacBook Pro, the iMac, and the Power Macs, support Firewire
400 and 800.
--
Michael
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In article ,
Michael wrote:

> On 2010-05-12 17:32:26 -0400, Gary Edstrom said:
>
> > On Wed, 12 May 2010 17:14:26 -0400, nospam
> > wrote:
> >
> >> In article , Gary Edstrom
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I have an CoolScan 9000 ED that I purchased in March of 2005. I still
> >>> have a use for it, so I am not planning on selling it anytime soon. I
> >>> have really liked it. It has done a great job. The only down side is
> >>> that it only supports the FireWire interface.
> >>
> >> why is firewire a downside? it's faster and more reliable than usb.
> >
> > Because fewer and fewer new computers are providing FireWire support.
> > Yes, I know that you can get adapters, but it's nice when the capability
> > is built-in. Currently, the only computer I have that can talk to it is
> > a Sony VAIO that I purchased in 2002. None of my 3 newer computers have
> > the support.
> >
> > Gary
>
> Correct me if I'm wrong, but all the Macs, from entry level laptop,
> through the MacBook Pro, the iMac, and the Power Macs, support Firewire
> 400 and 800.

Firewire 800 ports (400 has been discontinued):
iMac: Yes (1 port)
MacBook: No
MacBook Pro: Yes (1 port)
MacBook Air: No
Mac Mini: Yes (1 port)
Mac Pro: Yes (4 ports)
Xserve: Yes (2 ports)

An adapter allows the use of FW-400 devices but daisy-chaining 400 and
800 devices reduces the speed of the entire bus to 400 speed.

Specs from Apple <http://www.apple.com/>
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On Wed, 12 May 2010 16:55:52 -0700, clw wrote:
>
>Even Steve Jobs knows that he cannot market a new computer with no
>connectivity.


It didn't stop him marketing the iPad.
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In article , J. Clarke
wrote:

> Well an obvious downside is that not every machine has a Firewire port.
> Even Apple seems to be in the process of abandoning it.

the only two macs that do not have firewire are the macbook air and the
entry level macbook. all other macs were recently upgraded to firewire
800, a strange way of abandoning something.

they might ultimately replace it with usb 3 or lightpeak, but it's too
soon to call that one.
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In article , Michael
wrote:

> Correct me if I'm wrong, but all the Macs, from entry level laptop,
> through the MacBook Pro, the iMac, and the Power Macs, support Firewire
> 400 and 800.

all macs, other than the entry level macbook and the macbook air.
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In article
,
krishnananda wrote:

> An adapter allows the use of FW-400 devices but daisy-chaining 400 and
> 800 devices reduces the speed of the entire bus to 400 speed.

false. putting a fw400 device on a fw800 bus does *not* slow it down,
assuming the fw400 devices are after the fw800 devices.

however, any fw800 devices after a fw400 device will be at fw400 speeds.
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"Bruce" wrote in message

> On Wed, 12 May 2010 16:55:52 -0700, clw wrote:
>>
>>Even Steve Jobs knows that he cannot market a new computer with no
>>connectivity.
>
>
> It didn't stop him marketing the iPad.


)))) LOL, love it.
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"Castor Nageur" wrote in message

> Hi all,
>
> I live in France and just ordered (from eBay) a Nikon Coolscan V ED
> scanner
> (for scanning slides) for about $600 which is quite the price of the brand
> new item when it was sold in the photo shops.
>
> Today, the scanner is not sold anymore so the only way to get it is to buy
> the vintage version.
>
> I do not understand why the vintage version is so and even much expensive
> than the initial brand new one.
> Today, I saw one which was sold for $1100 ! ($500 more than the brand
> new).
>
> * Do you have an idea ?



I think it's because the scanner market is stuck in a 2001 time warp. For
some reason, all the effort has gone into digital camera's and the film
scanner market has pretty much stood still.

If you think that's expensive, look at the prices of some of the imacon
scanners. But, despite the price, when I was looking around they were still
pretty slow for doing a big batches of negs. In fact, I was unable to find
a fast way of scanning large quantities of negs at high resolution with ICE.
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