Nikon Capture NX; created NEF file won't import into PS CS..

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>> Hi,
>>
>> I've been playing around a little with Nikon's Capture NX, and I notice
>> that when I save a file as a .NEF file, this file won't subsequently
>> import into Photoshop CS2; I was hoping it would open CS2's RAW window
>> as any ordinary NEF file would, but instead I get a "Could not complete
>> your request because Photoshop doesn't recognize this type of file."
>> message.
>>
>> Any clues?
>>
>> Many thanks!
>
> I have just noticed the above applies to TIFF files imported into
> Capture NX, but not NEF files. Still, I was hoping to be able to save
> any image file as a 'fully fledged' NEF file..
>
> ...any clues?
>
Hi.

I don't have any clues about why it won't work.

What I really don't understand is why you would want to convert an Image
File to a RAW, and what do you mean by "Fully Fledged" RAW.

They are not like other Image File Types, such as Tiff, PSD or Jpeg, etc.

RAW files are specific to each camera manufacturer and also, very often, to
a specific model. A D70 NEF is different from a D200 NEF. They are really
only of use for storing the Raw Data from the Sensor, in order to allow the
photographer more scope when making the conversion to an Image File.

Roy G
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> "Jaap" <jb260670zebra DeleteThis @tigerhotmail.com> wrote in message
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> > <jb260670zebra-EF6AFD.08434422072006 DeleteThis @text.news.blueyonder.co.uk>,
> > Jaap <jb260670zebra DeleteThis @tigerhotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I've been playing around a little with Nikon's Capture NX, and I notice
> >> that when I save a file as a .NEF file, this file won't subsequently
> >> import into Photoshop CS2; I was hoping it would open CS2's RAW window
> >> as any ordinary NEF file would, but instead I get a "Could not complete
> >> your request because Photoshop doesn't recognize this type of file."
> >> message.
> >>
> >> Any clues?
> >>
> >> Many thanks!
> >
> > I have just noticed the above applies to TIFF files imported into
> > Capture NX, but not NEF files. Still, I was hoping to be able to save
> > any image file as a 'fully fledged' NEF file..
> >
> > ...any clues?
> >
> Hi.
>
> I don't have any clues about why it won't work.
>
> What I really don't understand is why you would want to convert an Image
> File to a RAW, and what do you mean by "Fully Fledged" RAW.
>
> They are not like other Image File Types, such as Tiff, PSD or Jpeg, etc.
>
> RAW files are specific to each camera manufacturer and also, very often, to
> a specific model. A D70 NEF is different from a D200 NEF. They are really
> only of use for storing the Raw Data from the Sensor, in order to allow the
> photographer more scope when making the conversion to an Image File.
>
> Roy G

Sorry; 'fully fledged' is perhaps a little obscure. All I mean to say
is that it would be great to create a RAW file that opens up in
Photoshop (or whatever other application) in the same way that a file
straight from the camera does. Why? Just for those occasions when the
client expects a bunch of RAW files (which in my case is often), and I
want to do some surgery on an image(s) in Photoshop before I deliver the
files, without the client being aware of my having modified the files.

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Jaap wrote:
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> Sorry; 'fully fledged' is perhaps a little obscure. All I mean to say
> is that it would be great to create a RAW file that opens up in
> Photoshop (or whatever other application) in the same way that a file
> straight from the camera does. Why? Just for those occasions when the
> client expects a bunch of RAW files (which in my case is often), and I
> want to do some surgery on an image(s) in Photoshop before I deliver the
> files, without the client being aware of my having modified the files.

Something like that is currently possible with Lightroom, using "Linear
DNG". It isn't raw, of course, but most of the details are the same as
"Raw DNG". (You could start with a TIFF or JPEG, convert it to Linear
DNG, then open that in the Silkypix raw converter. Most of what
Silkypix does is not about converting raw!) But - it is then necessary
to use software that can handle Linear DNG - ACR, LightZone, Silkypix,
etc, can. Many raw converters can't.

In effect, what is being discussed here is the NEF-equivalent of Linear
DNG. But what is its format? Nikon haven't published it, as far as I
know. (It obviously has features in it that are different from "raw
NEF"). So perhaps only Nikon software can handle that special form of
NEF at the moment.

I believe we will see more of this sort of processing in future, with
the new breed of image processors that can handle raw & TIFF & JPEG in
similar ways. I would like to see a plugin to Photoshop that would save
Photoshop files to Linear DNG.

--
Barry Pearson
http://www.barry.pearson.name/photography/
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