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Sammy

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 6:55 pm
Post subject: Min focus changes with zoom
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On my little digital camera I have an optical zoom and I switch off the
digital zoom.

The camera can autofocus on an object with the lens set to Wide.
But if I don't change position and zoom out to the maxiumum Tele lens
then it will not focus unless I move a long way back.

In the old days when I had a 35mm SLR, ISTR that the zoom on the lens
did not change the minumum fcous distance.

So why does this happen with a modern compact camera?

Is it something to do with the fact that "macro mode" is now no lomger a
separately adjusted lens setting. In other words, the zoom moves in and
out of Macro Mode as if there was no separate Macro Mode anymore.


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For more detail, the full manual is at:
ftp://ftp.casio.co.jp/pub/world_manual/qv/en/EXZ60_e.pdf 6MB

Page 86: Macro mode is from 10cm to 50cm.

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Jim

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 7:55 pm
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"Sammy" <no-one.DeleteThis@no-where.com> wrote in message
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> On my little digital camera I have an optical zoom and I switch off the
> digital zoom.
>
> The camera can autofocus on an object with the lens set to Wide.
> But if I don't change position and zoom out to the maxiumum Tele lens
> then it will not focus unless I move a long way back.
>
> In the old days when I had a 35mm SLR, ISTR that the zoom on the lens
> did not change the minumum fcous distance.
>
> So why does this happen with a modern compact camera?
>
> Is it something to do with the fact that "macro mode" is now no lomger a
> separately adjusted lens setting. In other words, the zoom moves in and
> out of Macro Mode as if there was no separate Macro Mode anymore.
>
>
> ----
>
> For more detail, the full manual is at:
> ftp://ftp.casio.co.jp/pub/world_manual/qv/en/EXZ60_e.pdf 6MB
>
> Page 86: Macro mode is from 10cm to 50cm.
What you have is a vari focal lens. The focus point changes with a change
in focal length.

The reason is quite simple. Vari focal lenses are cheaper to design and
make. Such lenses have been around for a very long time (mainly the less
expensive makes).

Jim

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Sammy

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 10:55 pm
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On 07 Sep 2006, Jim <j.n RemoveThis @nospam.com> wrote:

>
> "Sammy" <no-one RemoveThis @no-where.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns9837E786D2B65451E7A@127.0.0.1...
>> On my little digital camera I have an optical zoom and I switch
>> off the digital zoom.
>>
>> The camera can autofocus on an object with the lens set to Wide.
>> But if I don't change position and zoom out to the maxiumum Tele
>> lens then it will not focus unless I move a long way back.
>>
>> In the old days when I had a 35mm SLR, ISTR that the zoom on the
>> lens did not change the minumum fcous distance.
>>
>> So why does this happen with a modern compact camera?
>>
>> Is it something to do with the fact that "macro mode" is now no
>> lomger a separately adjusted lens setting. In other words, the
>> zoom moves in and out of Macro Mode as if there was no separate
>> Macro Mode anymore.
>>
>>
>> ----
>>
>> For more detail, the full manual is at:
>> ftp://ftp.casio.co.jp/pub/world_manual/qv/en/EXZ60_e.pdf 6MB
>>
>> Page 86: Macro mode is from 10cm to 50cm.
> What you have is a vari focal lens. The focus point changes with a
> change in focal length.
>
> The reason is quite simple. Vari focal lenses are cheaper to
> design and make. Such lenses have been around for a very long time
> (mainly the less expensive makes).
>
> Jim
>
>

Thanks Jim.


Is it a characteristic of a varifocal that the Wide setting gets a
larger focussed image than the Tele setting?
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Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 6:25 am
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>
> Is it a characteristic of a varifocal that the Wide setting gets a
> larger focussed image than the Tele setting?

If you mean greater depth of field, then yes, that is characteristic.
The relative depth of field is inverse to the focal length. This is
why you should focus on subject in telephoto, then rack out to take
your picture.
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dj_nme

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 10:47 am
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Don Stauffer in Minnesota wrote:

> >
> > Is it a characteristic of a varifocal that the Wide setting gets a
> > larger focussed image than the Tele setting?
>
> If you mean greater depth of field, then yes, that is characteristic.
> The relative depth of field is inverse to the focal length. This is
> why you should focus on subject in telephoto, then rack out to take
> your picture.

A varifocal lens does not maintain focus throughtout it's zoom range
(it must be refocussed after zooming in or out) and so is cheaper to
design than a true zoom lens (which can be focussed in the manner Don
described).
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