Microfilm into wall size poster please??

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On Oct 20, 12:58 am, slakka wrote:
> Dear NG,
> I wonder how to move foward with the above header please?
>  Any pointers would be appreciated, thanks in advance!
>
> slakka
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> mgmt ,rec.photo ,rec.photo.darkroom ,rec.photo.equipment.
> 35mm,comp.periphs.scanners

You'll either have to scan the microfilm at a very high resolution or
make an inter-negative.

Ideally you can find someone with an old 35mm camera hooked to a
microscope. You could then shoot an inter-neg using ortho film and
get a pretty good image off of it.
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Just get as high as possible resolution drum scan of the original film.
Internegs, microscopes, etc will only degrade the final image.



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On Oct 20, 12:58 am, slakka wrote:
> Dear NG,
> I wonder how to move foward with the above header please?
> Any pointers would be appreciated, thanks in advance!
>
> slakka
>
> rec.photo.digital , soc.libraries.talk ,rec.photo.film
> +labs ,alt.graphics.photoshop ,misc.business.records-
> mgmt ,rec.photo ,rec.photo.darkroom ,rec.photo.equipment.
> 35mm,comp.periphs.scanners

You'll either have to scan the microfilm at a very high resolution or
make an inter-negative.

Ideally you can find someone with an old 35mm camera hooked to a
microscope. You could then shoot an inter-neg using ortho film and
get a pretty good image off of it.
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> Dear NG,
> I wonder how to move foward with the above header please?
> Any pointers would be appreciated, thanks in advance!

The microfilm I work with is strips of film with the same dimensions as 35mm
film EXCEPT it has no sprocket holes. Beware that the Nikon Coolscans use
sprocket holes to register (align frames) so the strip feeder will not work.
At all. You can't even force it to expose. It considers the nondetection of
sprocket holes an error.

A work-around is to mount it as a 35mm slide and then scan it.

Given that microfilm is pure black-and-white, you can scan at a high
resolution and do some good work with photoshop to refine edges, if
necessary.

Otherwise you might be better off shipping the film to a custom photographic
printer (many available) who can print right to a very large paper.
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On Oct 20, 2:22 pm, "Digital John" wrote:
> Just get as high as possible resolution drum scan of the original film.
> Internegs, microscopes, etc will only degrade the final image.

Microfilm is all generally ortho, so you can reproduce it pretty well
without well without degradation.


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> On Oct 20, 12:58 am, slakka wrote:
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> > Dear NG,
> > I wonder how to move foward with the above header please?
> > Any pointers would be appreciated, thanks in advance!
>
> > slakka
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> > rec.photo.digital , soc.libraries.talk ,rec.photo.film
> > +labs ,alt.graphics.photoshop ,misc.business.records-
> > mgmt ,rec.photo ,rec.photo.darkroom ,rec.photo.equipment.
> > 35mm,comp.periphs.scanners
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> You'll either have to scan the microfilm at a very high resolution or
> make an inter-negative.
>
> Ideally you can find someone with an old 35mm camera hooked to a
> microscope.  You could then shoot an inter-neg using ortho film and
> get a pretty good image off of it.
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"John J" wrote in message

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> "slakka" wrote in message
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>> Dear NG,
>> I wonder how to move foward with the above header please?
>> Any pointers would be appreciated, thanks in advance!
>
> The microfilm I work with is strips of film with the same dimensions as
> 35mm film EXCEPT it has no sprocket holes. Beware that the Nikon Coolscans
> use sprocket holes to register (align frames) so the strip feeder will not
> work. At all. You can't even force it to expose. It considers the
> nondetection of sprocket holes an error.
>
> A work-around is to mount it as a 35mm slide and then scan it.
>
> Given that microfilm is pure black-and-white, you can scan at a high
> resolution and do some good work with photoshop to refine edges, if
> necessary.
>
> Otherwise you might be better off shipping the film to a custom
> photographic printer (many available) who can print right to a very large
> paper.
>
>
>

Really? I've never tried this with my 8000ED, but it seems it wants to see
the black of the film between the first and second frame, and after that,
it's good. Of course, I defer to your actual experience.
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On Oct 22, 4:24 am, "Toby" wrote:
> I have made glass carriers out of glass slide mounts for my Coolscan and
> used the normal slide adapter. Sprocket holes or no, it works well. The big
> advantage is that it holds the film completely flat, which is helpful in
> maintaining sharpness with the very limited DOF of Coolscan scanners. Dust
> is, of course, a problem, but can be sorted out quite easily in Photoshop..
>
> Toby
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> >> "slakka" wrote in message
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> >>> Dear NG,
> >>> I wonder how to move foward with the above header please?
> >>> Any pointers would be appreciated, thanks in advance!
>
> >> The microfilm I work with is strips of film with the same dimensions as
> >> 35mm film EXCEPT it has no sprocket holes. Beware that the Nikon
> >> Coolscans use sprocket holes to register (align frames) so the strip
> >> feeder will not work. At all. You can't even force it to expose. It
> >> considers the nondetection of sprocket holes an error.
>
> >> A work-around is to mount it as a 35mm slide and then scan it.
>
> >> Given that microfilm is pure black-and-white, you can scan at a high
> >> resolution and do some good work with photoshop to refine edges, if
> >> necessary.
>
> >> Otherwise you might be better off shipping the film to a custom
> >> photographic printer (many available) who can print right to a very large
> >> paper.
>
> > Really?  I've never tried this with my 8000ED, but it seems it wants to
> > see the black of the film between the first and second frame, and after
> > that, it's good.  Of course, I defer to your actual experience.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Great stuff!
Where could I go to have this done commercially?
I live in N.Y.C.
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Litho film as an interneg will give you a hard edge at boundaries, so it
will "sharpen" text and halftone images, but it might not work well if you
have continuous tone.

Toby

"Digital John" schrieb im Newsbeitrag

> Just get as high as possible resolution drum scan of the original film.
> Internegs, microscopes, etc will only degrade the final image.
>
>
>
> "Pat" wrote in message
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> On Oct 20, 12:58 am, slakka wrote:
>> Dear NG,
>> I wonder how to move foward with the above header please?
>> Any pointers would be appreciated, thanks in advance!
>>
>> slakka
>>
>> rec.photo.digital , soc.libraries.talk ,rec.photo.film
>> +labs ,alt.graphics.photoshop ,misc.business.records-
>> mgmt ,rec.photo ,rec.photo.darkroom ,rec.photo.equipment.
>> 35mm,comp.periphs.scanners
>
> You'll either have to scan the microfilm at a very high resolution or
> make an inter-negative.
>
> Ideally you can find someone with an old 35mm camera hooked to a
> microscope. You could then shoot an inter-neg using ortho film and
> get a pretty good image off of it.
>
 >> Stay informed about: Microfilm into wall size poster please?? 

I have made glass carriers out of glass slide mounts for my Coolscan and
used the normal slide adapter. Sprocket holes or no, it works well. The big
advantage is that it holds the film completely flat, which is helpful in
maintaining sharpness with the very limited DOF of Coolscan scanners. Dust
is, of course, a problem, but can be sorted out quite easily in Photoshop.

Toby

"bino" schrieb im Newsbeitrag

> "John J" wrote in message
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>> "slakka" wrote in message
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>>> Dear NG,
>>> I wonder how to move foward with the above header please?
>>> Any pointers would be appreciated, thanks in advance!
>>
>> The microfilm I work with is strips of film with the same dimensions as
>> 35mm film EXCEPT it has no sprocket holes. Beware that the Nikon
>> Coolscans use sprocket holes to register (align frames) so the strip
>> feeder will not work. At all. You can't even force it to expose. It
>> considers the nondetection of sprocket holes an error.
>>
>> A work-around is to mount it as a 35mm slide and then scan it.
>>
>> Given that microfilm is pure black-and-white, you can scan at a high
>> resolution and do some good work with photoshop to refine edges, if
>> necessary.
>>
>> Otherwise you might be better off shipping the film to a custom
>> photographic printer (many available) who can print right to a very large
>> paper.
>>
>>
>>
>
> Really? I've never tried this with my 8000ED, but it seems it wants to
> see the black of the film between the first and second frame, and after
> that, it's good. Of course, I defer to your actual experience.
 >> Stay informed about: Microfilm into wall size poster please?? 

On Oct 22, 4:20 am, "Toby" wrote:
> Litho film as an interneg will give you a hard edge at boundaries, so it
> will "sharpen" text and halftone images, but it might not work well if you
> have continuous tone.

I've never worked to much with microfilm, but I don't remember ever
seeing any with continuous tone (or color). I think it would much
harder to deal with the grain on really small images if you had
anything but a litho film.

But a inter-neg on litho, from a litho original is going to be a
pretty faithful repro. -- and of course you can then go as big as you
want without any grain.

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> Toby
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> "Digital John" schrieb im Newsbeitragnews:o%3Lk.4008$UD6.128@newsfe07.iad...
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> > Just get as high as possible resolution drum scan of the original film.
> > Internegs, microscopes, etc will only degrade the final image.
>
> > "Pat" wrote in message
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> > On Oct 20, 12:58 am, slakka wrote:
> >> Dear NG,
> >> I wonder how to move foward with the above header please?
> >> Any pointers would be appreciated, thanks in advance!
>
> >> slakka
>
> >> rec.photo.digital , soc.libraries.talk ,rec.photo.film
> >> +labs ,alt.graphics.photoshop ,misc.business.records-
> >> mgmt ,rec.photo ,rec.photo.darkroom ,rec.photo.equipment.
> >> 35mm,comp.periphs.scanners
>
> > You'll either have to scan the microfilm at a very high resolution or
> > make an inter-negative.
>
> > Ideally you can find someone with an old 35mm camera hooked to a
> > microscope.  You could then shoot an inter-neg using ortho film and
> > get a pretty good image off of it.
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