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(Msg. 1) Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 9:56 am
Post subject: Lens Hoods on compacts?
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I note that pro's using SLR's (film OR digital), and
pro's doing video always use socking great lens hoods.
If I want to maximise the quality
of the shots I take with my digital compact
(I now have a Canon a630) should I follow
suit?
Or are the small lenses of a compact down
a deep enough hole that a lens hood is not needed?
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 9:56 am
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"bugbear" <bugbear RemoveThis @trim_papermule.co.uk_trim> wrote in message
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> I note that pro's using SLR's (film OR digital), and
> pro's doing video always use socking great lens hoods.
>
> If I want to maximise the quality
> of the shots I take with my digital compact
> (I now have a Canon a630) should I follow
> suit?
>
> Or are the small lenses of a compact down
> a deep enough hole that a lens hood is not needed?
A lens hood is generally a good idea, especially one that's matched as well
as possible to the lens's actual field of view -- of course with zoom lenses
that's difficult or impossible to do perfectly since the field of view
changes dramatically. Compact and ultracompact cameras often have a more or
less rectangular cutout in front of the lens which to some extent serves the
same purpose as a lens hood. A real lens hood would be better, but that's
usually moot since most compact cameras have no provision for attaching one.
If there is some convenient way of putting a hood on your Canon A630 then go
for it, but otherwise you can probably shade the lens with your hand when
it's really important (sun shining directly on the lens, etc.).
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 9:56 am
Post subject: Re: Lens Hoods on compacts? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On May 3, 10:57 pm, "Neil H." <t....RemoveThis@s.unlisted> wrote:
> "bugbear" <bugbear.RemoveThis@trim_papermule.co.uk_trim> wrote in message
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> news:4639d41b$0$8730$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net...
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> > I note that pro's using SLR's (film OR digital), and
> > pro's doing video always use socking great lens hoods.
>
> > If I want to maximise the quality
> > of the shots I take with my digital compact
> > (I now have a Canon a630) should I follow
> > suit?
>
> > Or are the small lenses of a compact down
> > a deep enough hole that a lens hood is not needed?
>
> A lens hood is generally a good idea, especially one that's matched as well
> as possible to the lens's actual field of view -- of course with zoom lenses
> that's difficult or impossible to do perfectly since the field of view
> changes dramatically. Compact and ultracompact cameras often have a more or
> less rectangular cutout in front of the lens which to some extent serves the
> same purpose as a lens hood. A real lens hood would be better, but that's
> usually moot since most compact cameras have no provision for attaching one.
> If there is some convenient way of putting a hood on your Canon A630 then go
> for it, but otherwise you can probably shade the lens with your hand when
> it's really important (sun shining directly on the lens, etc.).
The hoods are put on a lens, so that to cut off the light which might
be refracted by the lens in an unplanned fasion and create glare.
Point-n-shoot cameras are too cheap and produce a too low quality to
bother with the lens hood.
I wonder why did the Sigma people create a lens hood for their new
point-n-shoot camera DP1 ?? >> Stay informed about: Lens Hoods on compacts? |
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 9:56 am
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On Thu, 03 May 2007 13:22:51 +0100, bugbear wrote:
> I note that pro's using SLR's (film OR digital), and
> pro's doing video always use socking great lens hoods.
>
> If I want to maximise the quality
> of the shots I take with my digital compact
> (I now have a Canon a630) should I follow
> suit?
>
> Or are the small lenses of a compact down
> a deep enough hole that a lens hood is not needed?
>
> BugBear
FWIW - though it's not really a 'compact' Kodak has a lens hood available
for their P series. >> Stay informed about: Lens Hoods on compacts? |
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 10:52 am
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"carrera d'olbani" <dolbani.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Point-n-shoot cameras are too cheap and produce a too low quality to
> bother with the lens hood.
Well, that's not true. Even cheap point-and-shoot cameras, if from quality
manufacturers (Nikon, Canon, Pentax, et al.) have excellent lenses for what
they're intended to do. I use Nikon digital SLRs and also Nikon and other
brands of digital compact and ultracompact cameras. They all produce fine
images.
Neil >> Stay informed about: Lens Hoods on compacts? |
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 11:56 am
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carrera d'olbani wrote:
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> The hoods are put on a lens, so that to cut off the light which might
> be refracted by the lens in an unplanned fasion and create glare.
> Point-n-shoot cameras are too cheap and produce a too low quality to
> bother with the lens hood.
But surely (on your assumption) if a lens
is low quality, and (hence...) prone to glare,
isn't a hood MORE required, not less?
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 2:56 pm
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Neil Harrington wrote:
> "carrera d'olbani" <dolbani RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1178199268.993938.90300@u30g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
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>> Point-n-shoot cameras are too cheap and produce a too low quality to
>> bother with the lens hood.
>
> Well, that's not true. Even cheap point-and-shoot cameras, if from quality
> manufacturers (Nikon, Canon, Pentax, et al.) have excellent lenses for what
> they're intended to do. I use Nikon digital SLRs and also Nikon and other
> brands of digital compact and ultracompact cameras. They all produce fine
> images.
>
> Neil
>
>
You two guys miss the point, when one has invested in a high end model
one doesn't want to be told a lesser model also has merit.
Dave Cohen >> Stay informed about: Lens Hoods on compacts? |
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 3:56 pm
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? "Dave Cohen" <user DeleteThis @example.net> ?????? ??? ??????
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> Neil Harrington wrote:
> > "carrera d'olbani" <dolbani DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:1178199268.993938.90300@u30g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
> >
> >> Point-n-shoot cameras are too cheap and produce a too low quality to
> >> bother with the lens hood.
> >
> > Well, that's not true. Even cheap point-and-shoot cameras, if from
quality
> > manufacturers (Nikon, Canon, Pentax, et al.) have excellent lenses for
what
> > they're intended to do. I use Nikon digital SLRs and also Nikon and
other
> > brands of digital compact and ultracompact cameras. They all produce
fine
> > images.
> >
> > Neil
> >
> >
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> You two guys miss the point, when one has invested in a high end model
> one doesn't want to be told a lesser model also has merit.
> Dave Cohen
Why lesser?Just for different purposes and different point of view.I
wouldn't make the same mistake again and go for a SLR when I'm mainly a
snapshot photographer.But I want good quality up to A4 blowups!Back in the
day, a SLR was the way to go but now many people have P&S.Anyway, now when
there are no (mainstream used) B&W or slide films a P&S is not that much an
disadvantage.Back in the film days, when you wanted to shoot transparencies
it was impossible with a compact, but now?And slrs are quite expensive, too.
--
Tzortzakakis Dimitrios
major in electrical engineering
mechanized infantry reservist
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 6:25 pm
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bugbear wrote:
> I note that pro's using SLR's (film OR digital), and
> pro's doing video always use socking great lens hoods.
>
> If I want to maximise the quality
> of the shots I take with my digital compact
> (I now have a Canon a630) should I follow
> suit?
>
> Or are the small lenses of a compact down
> a deep enough hole that a lens hood is not needed?
>
> BugBear
Simply said, if a lens hood could be effectively used on any lens
(except perhaps a close focusing macro lens) on a film or digital
camera, I would suggest it be used.
To illustrate my use of lens hoods, all my lenses used on either my
30D and 1DMKII cameras have lens hoods; whether they be of the
original OEM type or of the Cokin type (often interchangeably). Most
recently I acquired a Canon S3 IS camera and bought an extension tube
to be used with 52mm filters from LensMateOnLine. On the Canon S3 IS
camera, I use a Nikon 52mm lens hood which was made for Nikon F lens'
and used for 35mm through 86mm Nikon lenses. The Canon S3 IS starts at
36mm and stops at over 400mm. >> Stay informed about: Lens Hoods on compacts? |
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 7:13 pm
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"Dave Cohen" <user.DeleteThis@example.net> wrote in message
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> Neil Harrington wrote:
>> "carrera d'olbani" <dolbani.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:1178199268.993938.90300@u30g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
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>>> Point-n-shoot cameras are too cheap and produce a too low quality to
>>> bother with the lens hood.
>>
>> Well, that's not true. Even cheap point-and-shoot cameras, if from
>> quality manufacturers (Nikon, Canon, Pentax, et al.) have excellent
>> lenses for what they're intended to do. I use Nikon digital SLRs and also
>> Nikon and other brands of digital compact and ultracompact cameras. They
>> all produce fine images.
>>
>> Neil
>>
>>
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> You two guys miss the point, when one has invested in a high end model one
> doesn't want to be told a lesser model also has merit.
> Dave Cohen
Yes, you're probably right about that.
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 9:15 pm
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"bugbear" <bugbear.DeleteThis@trim_papermule.co.uk_trim> wrote in message
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>I note that pro's using SLR's (film OR digital), and
> pro's doing video always use socking great lens hoods.
>
> If I want to maximise the quality
> of the shots I take with my digital compact
> (I now have a Canon a630) should I follow
> suit?
>
> Or are the small lenses of a compact down
> a deep enough hole that a lens hood is not needed?
>
> BugBear
I bought the lens hood for my S1 IS when it was new, and it's rarely been
off camera since. It keeps unwanted light off of the lens and, in a fashion,
also helps to protect that lens.
And, besides, it looks way cool.
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 6:55 am
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 11:52 pm
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"bugbear" <bugbear.TakeThisOut@trim_papermule.co.uk_trim> wrote in message
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>I note that pro's using SLR's (film OR digital), and
> pro's doing video always use socking great lens hoods.
>
> If I want to maximise the quality
> of the shots I take with my digital compact
> (I now have a Canon a630) should I follow
> suit?
>
> Or are the small lenses of a compact down
> a deep enough hole that a lens hood is not needed?
Nope. You need a hood... or shade the lens with a hat to get the same
effect.
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 11:54 pm
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"carrera d'olbani" <dolbani.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On May 3, 10:57 pm, "Neil H." <t....RemoveThis@s.unlisted> wrote:
>> "bugbear" <bugbear.RemoveThis@trim_papermule.co.uk_trim> wrote in message
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>> news:4639d41b$0$8730$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net...
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>> > I note that pro's using SLR's (film OR digital), and
>> > pro's doing video always use socking great lens hoods.
>>
>> > If I want to maximise the quality
>> > of the shots I take with my digital compact
>> > (I now have a Canon a630) should I follow
>> > suit?
>>
>> > Or are the small lenses of a compact down
>> > a deep enough hole that a lens hood is not needed?
>>
>> A lens hood is generally a good idea, especially one that's matched as
>> well
>> as possible to the lens's actual field of view -- of course with zoom
>> lenses
>> that's difficult or impossible to do perfectly since the field of view
>> changes dramatically. Compact and ultracompact cameras often have a more
>> or
>> less rectangular cutout in front of the lens which to some extent serves
>> the
>> same purpose as a lens hood. A real lens hood would be better, but that's
>> usually moot since most compact cameras have no provision for attaching
>> one.
>> If there is some convenient way of putting a hood on your Canon A630 then
>> go
>> for it, but otherwise you can probably shade the lens with your hand when
>> it's really important (sun shining directly on the lens, etc.).
>
> The hoods are put on a lens, so that to cut off the light which might
> be refracted by the lens in an unplanned fasion and create glare.
> Point-n-shoot cameras are too cheap and produce a too low quality to
> bother with the lens hood.
Not true. My Panny XL1, with Leica lens, does a pretty decent job. Wish I
could use a hood on it, but can't.
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