LCD monitor that also displays images offline

"Roger N. Clark (change username to rnclark)" <username.RemoveThis@qwest.net> wrote:
> Is there such a device as a computer monitor
> that has a compact flash reader and if not attached to
> a computer will display the images on the CF card like
> a digital picture frame? Or perhaps some internal memory
> where you can upload images. Then if so what is the
> largest monitor that does this?

Some of the portable storage devices have video out (the old (and slow)
Epson P-2000 does). Unfortunately, presumably they'd only be VGA out at
best, though. You'd want something higher resolution than that.

If one of the newer ones had HDTV out you'd be home free with an HDTV
monitor.

David J. Littleboy
Tokyo, Japan
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David J. Littleboy wrote:
> "Roger N. Clark (change username to rnclark)" <username RemoveThis @qwest.net> wrote:
>> Is there such a device as a computer monitor
>> that has a compact flash reader and if not attached to
>> a computer will display the images on the CF card like
>> a digital picture frame? Or perhaps some internal memory
>> where you can upload images. Then if so what is the
>> largest monitor that does this?
>
> Some of the portable storage devices have video out (the old (and slow)
> Epson P-2000 does). Unfortunately, presumably they'd only be VGA out at
> best, though. You'd want something higher resolution than that.
>
> If one of the newer ones had HDTV out you'd be home free with an HDTV
> monitor.

HDTV is too low of resolution. My 30-inch monitor is
2560 x 1600 pixels, 4.1 megapixels. I've seen some
20-inch digital picture frames, but they are only 1280x1024
pixels! The problems with 2560x1600 pixels is that
you need a modern computer with a very high end graphics
card to drive it. At work we've been trying to add a
graphics card that says it does that resolution into a
3 year old computer and it does not do it well (strange
bright pixels looks like hot pixels). And these cards need
extra large power supplies with noisy fans, not what one
wants in a quiet home or a gallery.

I don't think what I want exists, yet.

Roger
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On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 22:00:34 -0600, Roger N. Clark (change username to rnclark) <username DeleteThis @qwest.net> wrote:
> Is there such a device as a computer monitor
> that has a compact flash reader and if not attached to
> a computer will display the images on the CF card like
> a digital picture frame? Or perhaps some internal memory
> where you can upload images. Then if so what is the
> largest monitor that does this?
>
> The digital picture frames I've seen are too small.
> I'd like a 24+ inch LCD, ideally 30+ inch and 4+
> megapixels (ideally 8+). I have a 30-inch LCD
> 4 megapixel display and images look astounding on it.
> It would be nice to have one on the wall, but not
> to buy a computer to feed it too.

It could be argued that compared to the price of a big high-res
flatscreen, a small PC to drive a screensaver is a drop in the bucket.
That's what we do where I work; there's a big plasma monitor out front
showing various things, and it's driven by a Mac Mini hidden inside a
cabinet.

-dms
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Daniel Silevitch wrote:
> It could be argued that compared to the price of a big high-res
> flatscreen, a small PC to drive a screensaver is a drop in the bucket.
> That's what we do where I work; there's a big plasma monitor out front
> showing various things, and it's driven by a Mac Mini hidden inside a
> cabinet.

A 30-inch 2560x1600 (4 megapixel) pixel LCD monitor is $1200.

Rumor has it 8+ megapixel displays are coming soon.

Roger
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On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 06:43:43 -0600, Roger N. Clark (change username to rnclark) <username.DeleteThis@qwest.net> wrote:
> David J. Littleboy wrote:
>> "Roger N. Clark (change username to rnclark)" <username.DeleteThis@qwest.net> wrote:
>>> Is there such a device as a computer monitor
>>> that has a compact flash reader and if not attached to
>>> a computer will display the images on the CF card like
>>> a digital picture frame? Or perhaps some internal memory
>>> where you can upload images. Then if so what is the
>>> largest monitor that does this?
>>
>> Some of the portable storage devices have video out (the old (and slow)
>> Epson P-2000 does). Unfortunately, presumably they'd only be VGA out at
>> best, though. You'd want something higher resolution than that.
>>
>> If one of the newer ones had HDTV out you'd be home free with an HDTV
>> monitor.
>
> HDTV is too low of resolution. My 30-inch monitor is
> 2560 x 1600 pixels, 4.1 megapixels. I've seen some
> 20-inch digital picture frames, but they are only 1280x1024
> pixels! The problems with 2560x1600 pixels is that
> you need a modern computer with a very high end graphics
> card to drive it. At work we've been trying to add a
> graphics card that says it does that resolution into a
> 3 year old computer and it does not do it well (strange
> bright pixels looks like hot pixels). And these cards need
> extra large power supplies with noisy fans, not what one
> wants in a quiet home or a gallery.

According to http://www.apple.com/macmini/specs.html , the current
version of the Mini will drive a 1920x1200 pixel display via DVI. If
you can live with that resolution, it's a nice quiet and compact box. If
you really do need 2560x1600, then you're talking about dual-link DVI
cards, which chew power like crazy, need to be fan-cooled, etc. Best
solution there would be to custom-build a PC with an appropriate
graphics card and do the best you can to sonically isolate it from the
display area.

-dms
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In article <slrnfibotb.ojc.dmsilev.RemoveThis@nsit-dhcp-035-163.uchicago.edu>,
Daniel Silevitch <dmsilev.RemoveThis@uchicago.edu> wrote:

> According to http://www.apple.com/macmini/specs.html , the current
> version of the Mini will drive a 1920x1200 pixel display via DVI. If
> you can live with that resolution, it's a nice quiet and compact box.

and if you do get a mac, the new photo mosaic screen saver in leopard
(10.5) is quite slick. point it at your library of images and let it
run...
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Roger N. Clark (change username to rnclark) wrote:
> Daniel Silevitch wrote:
>> It could be argued that compared to the price of a big high-res
>> flatscreen, a small PC to drive a screensaver is a drop in the
>> bucket. That's what we do where I work; there's a big plasma monitor
>> out front showing various things, and it's driven by a Mac Mini
>> hidden inside a cabinet.
>
> A 30-inch 2560x1600 (4 megapixel) pixel LCD monitor is $1200.
>
> Rumor has it 8+ megapixel displays are coming soon.
>
> Roger

9.2Mpix:
http://www.idtech.co.jp/en/920LCD/index.html

http://www.pcpro.co.uk/reviews/63390/ibm-t221.html

David
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David J Taylor wrote:
> Roger N. Clark (change username to rnclark) wrote:
>> Daniel Silevitch wrote:
>>> It could be argued that compared to the price of a big high-res
>>> flatscreen, a small PC to drive a screensaver is a drop in the
>>> bucket. That's what we do where I work; there's a big plasma monitor
>>> out front showing various things, and it's driven by a Mac Mini
>>> hidden inside a cabinet.
>> A 30-inch 2560x1600 (4 megapixel) pixel LCD monitor is $1200.
>>
>> Rumor has it 8+ megapixel displays are coming soon.
>>
>> Roger
>
> 9.2Mpix:
> http://www.idtech.co.jp/en/920LCD/index.html

Erm, that page is almost exactly four years old....
>
> http://www.pcpro.co.uk/reviews/63390/ibm-t221.html
>

This one was obscured by an annoying floating ad, but I thought I spied
"04" on the page as well as something in excess of 4,000 quid. Wow!

I'm sure those will all be here one day, and within reach of the average
electronic junky such as many of us.

--
John McWilliams
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David J Taylor wrote:
> Roger N. Clark (change username to rnclark) wrote:
>> Daniel Silevitch wrote:
>>> It could be argued that compared to the price of a big high-res
>>> flatscreen, a small PC to drive a screensaver is a drop in the
>>> bucket. That's what we do where I work; there's a big plasma monitor
>>> out front showing various things, and it's driven by a Mac Mini
>>> hidden inside a cabinet.
>> A 30-inch 2560x1600 (4 megapixel) pixel LCD monitor is $1200.
>>
>> Rumor has it 8+ megapixel displays are coming soon.
>>
>> Roger
>
> 9.2Mpix:
> http://www.idtech.co.jp/en/920LCD/index.html
>
> http://www.pcpro.co.uk/reviews/63390/ibm-t221.html
>
> David
>
>
David,
Thanks for the links. I guess that proves the rumor!
I had actually heard of the IBM monitor, but didn't know
any details. I would like my 9 megapixels in a larger screen.
But we really need operating systems, graphics cards and
lower prices to make this viable. I'm sure it will happen,
just a matter of when. The rumor is next year, not that
the rumor has any validity.

Then when someone says, I only want digital images for
display on my monitor, it takes on whole new requirements!

Hope it comes soon.

Roger
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Roger N. Clark (change username to rnclark) wrote:
[]
> David,
> Thanks for the links. I guess that proves the rumor!
> I had actually heard of the IBM monitor, but didn't know
> any details. I would like my 9 megapixels in a larger screen.
> But we really need operating systems, graphics cards and
> lower prices to make this viable. I'm sure it will happen,
> just a matter of when. The rumor is next year, not that
> the rumor has any validity.
>
> Then when someone says, I only want digital images for
> display on my monitor, it takes on whole new requirements!
>
> Hope it comes soon.
>
> Roger

Glad the pointers were of interest. As someone pointed out, they are 3
years old.

It's been interesting to follow cameras and monitors. At the time of my
first digital camera in 1998, its resolution (1280 x 960) was in just
excess of my monitors (1024 x 768). Although my monitors have been
gradually creeping up in resolution and physical size (now to a 20-inch
1600 x 1200), my cameras have always been ahead of them (now 3000 x 2000
and 3072 x 2304).

What surprises me slightly with displaying images on either my monitor
(1600 x 1200) or my TV (1366 x 768) is just how good they look - somehow
better than prints which are physically smaller, and yet have more pixels.
Something about emitted versus reflected light which suits me!

Cheers,
David
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