Kodak gray card

Rita Ä Berkowitz wrote:
> t-photo wrote:
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>> I have been told that Tiffin would not produce Kodak gray card
>> anymore.
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>> Anyone knows which manufacturer got the Kodak license to produce Kodak
>> Gray Card?
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> Behr brand paints sold at Home Depot. They have sample cards free for
> the taking that are 18% gray scale. Grab a handful and enjoy.
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> Rita

I used the Home Depot approach myself a few years ago.
I took my Kodak 18% Gray card to Home Depot and had them scan it.
Then I had them make up a quart of 18% Gray Matte paint .
I then bought a sheet of Masonite and painted one side Pure White and
painted the other side 18% Gray.
Then cut the board into pieces 3.5 X 5.0 inches, just perfect for
carrying in your shirt pocket.
Large enough to get a reading from.....Small enough to carry everywhere.
White side for White Balance...... Gray side for exposure.
I gave a couple to all of my photography friends who thought it was the
greatest convenience since sliced bread.
Bob Williams
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Greetings,

The Kodak Gray Card was considered a 'publication' and it along with a
number of other priced publications were sold to the Silver Pixel Press.
They were produced by them for a time and eventually sold to Tiffen.

Talk to you soon,

Ron Baird
Eastman Kodak Company



"t-photo" <uscimage DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
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>I have been told that Tiffin would not produce Kodak gray card
> anymore.
>
> Anyone knows which manufacturer got the Kodak license to produce Kodak
> Gray Card?
>
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Bob Williams <mytbobnospam RemoveThis @cox.net> writes:

>I used the Home Depot approach myself a few years ago.
>I took my Kodak 18% Gray card to Home Depot and had them scan it.
>Then I had them make up a quart of 18% Gray Matte paint .
>I then bought a sheet of Masonite and painted one side Pure White and
>painted the other side 18% Gray.
>Then cut the board into pieces 3.5 X 5.0 inches, just perfect for
>carrying in your shirt pocket.
>Large enough to get a reading from.....Small enough to carry everywhere.
>White side for White Balance...... Gray side for exposure.

It's worth noting that this might not be *quite* the same as a Kodak
grey card. The Kodak card's grey side uses a pigment that is chosen for
spectral neutrality - i.e. it reflects about 18% of all visible
wavelengths. Your home-made grey card uses a paint that appears neutral
grey to the human eye, but might have a reflectance spectrum that is far
from flat (particularly if the colour mixing machine used any cyan,
magenta, or yellow pigment in addition to black).

If so, it's probably not accurate for white balance, and might have
some exposure error under lights that have a spiky spectrum
themselves. The Kodak card's grey side should be good for white
balance and exposure under any light.

You'd have to do some tests under non-incandescent lights to see if your
grey is equivalent to the Kodak grey.

Dave
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On May 17, 2:47 am, "Ron Baird" <ronba....TakeThisOut@kodak.com> wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> The Kodak Gray Card was considered a 'publication' and it along with a
> number of other priced publications were sold to the Silver Pixel Press.
> They were produced by them for a time and eventually sold to Tiffen.
>
> Talk to you soon,
>
> Ron Baird
> Eastman Kodak Company
>
> "t-photo" <uscim....TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> >I have been told that Tiffin would not produce Kodak gray card
> > anymore.
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> > Anyone knows which manufacturer got the Kodak license to produce Kodak
> > Gray Card?- Hide quoted text -
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It seems that Tiffen has supplied the grey card and other Kodak
publication including film cleaner and tissue.

So, any information about who will replace Tiffen for supplying these
items?
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Greetings Rita,

I know that the people responsible for this card when it was at Kodak spent
many thousands of dollars to make sure it was exact and correct.

Talk to you soon,

Ron Baird
Eastman Kodak Company



"Rita Ä Berkowitz" <ritaberk2O04 @aol.com> wrote in message
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> Dave Martindale wrote:
>
>>> I used the Home Depot approach myself a few years ago.
>>> I took my Kodak 18% Gray card to Home Depot and had them scan it.
>>> Then I had them make up a quart of 18% Gray Matte paint .
>>> I then bought a sheet of Masonite and painted one side Pure White and
>>> painted the other side 18% Gray.
>>> Then cut the board into pieces 3.5 X 5.0 inches, just perfect for
>>> carrying in your shirt pocket.
>>> Large enough to get a reading from.....Small enough to carry
>>> everywhere. White side for White Balance...... Gray side for
>>> exposure.
>>
>> It's worth noting that this might not be *quite* the same as a Kodak
>> grey card. The Kodak card's grey side uses a pigment that is chosen
>> for spectral neutrality - i.e. it reflects about 18% of all visible
>> wavelengths. Your home-made grey card uses a paint that appears
>> neutral grey to the human eye, but might have a reflectance spectrum
>> that is far from flat (particularly if the colour mixing machine used
>> any cyan, magenta, or yellow pigment in addition to black).
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> Wouldn't the color scanner or whatever they call it to read the sample
> color
> take all of this into account and compensate for this by changing the
> formula accordingly? My take on all of this is it really isn't as
> critical
> as some people like to make it out to be.
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> Rita
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On May 17, 2:47 am, "Ron Baird" <ronba....RemoveThis@kodak.com> wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> The Kodak Gray Card was considered a 'publication' and it along with a
> number of other priced publications were sold to the Silver Pixel Press.
> They were produced by them for a time and eventually sold to Tiffen.
>
> Talk to you soon,
>
> Ron Baird
> Eastman Kodak Company
>
> "t-photo" <uscim....RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> news:1179233954.608772.236970@e51g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
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> >I have been told that Tiffin would not produce Kodak gray card
> > anymore.
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> > Anyone knows which manufacturer got the Kodak license to produce Kodak
> > Gray Card?- Hide quoted text -
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Dear Ron Baird,

I have been told yesterday that Kodak Taiwan had sent someone to Hong
Kong searching for Kodak Gray Card, Lens cleaner etc.

It seems that there must be some problem about the supplies.

Kodak needs to do something about this.

fhtong
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Greetings,

Not sure if that is true as Kodak no longer makes and hasn't for some time.
It was all turned over to Silver Pixel Press back in 1995 or so. I was an
Editor for Kodak at the time and if I recall correctly, the card and a
number of other priced publications wen that way.

As to Lens cleaner, we also discontinued that a long time ago. There is a
good site that does make cleaners etc. and you can get more information by
going to http://www.photosol.com They have a relatively good product to
clean lenses and screens etc. Worth a look. (not a recommendation of Kodak,
just my reference)

Talk to you soon,

Ron Baird

Eastman Kodak Company

"t-photo" <uscimage DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On May 17, 2:47 am, "Ron Baird" <ronba... DeleteThis @kodak.com> wrote:
>> Greetings,
>>
>> The Kodak Gray Card was considered a 'publication' and it along with a
>> number of other priced publications were sold to the Silver Pixel Press.
>> They were produced by them for a time and eventually sold to Tiffen.
>>
>> Talk to you soon,
>>
>> Ron Baird
>> Eastman Kodak Company
>>
>> "t-photo" <uscim... DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:1179233954.608772.236970@e51g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>>
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>> >I have been told that Tiffin would not produce Kodak gray card
>> > anymore.
>>
>> > Anyone knows which manufacturer got the Kodak license to produce Kodak
>> > Gray Card?- Hide quoted text -
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>> - Show quoted text -
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> Dear Ron Baird,
>
> I have been told yesterday that Kodak Taiwan had sent someone to Hong
> Kong searching for Kodak Gray Card, Lens cleaner etc.
>
> It seems that there must be some problem about the supplies.
>
> Kodak needs to do something about this.
>
> fhtong
>
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On May 23, 7:45 am, TryinToHelp <n... DeleteThis @noaddress.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 22 May 2007 09:58:24 -0400, "Ron Baird" <ronba... DeleteThis @kodak.com> wrote:
>
> >As to Lens cleaner, we also discontinued that a long time ago. There is a
> >good site that does make cleaners etc. and you can get more information by
> >going tohttp://www.photosol.comThey have a relatively good product to
> >clean lenses and screens etc. Worth a look. (not a recommendation of Kodak,
> >just my reference)
>
> The best, and I do mean the absolute best, lens cleaner I ever found came from
> an unlikely source. It's marketed under the name of "Rexton Optyl-7". You can
> get it fromwww.sciplus.comfor $4 for 8 oz. One bottle lasts forever. I divide
> it up into some smaller drop-applicators for myself and friends. I still have
> over half a bottle left after giving most of it away.
>
> This solution has managed to remove saps and bug juice that no other cleaner
> could touch. It's also the first one I found where a deeply multi-coated lens
> don't show any signs of streaks after cleaning. Most other cleaners always
> manage to leave some kind of minor residue that takes further attempts to remove
> it.
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> p.s. Personally, I see no need for any gray-card these days. With digital
> cameras' ability to set white-balance off of any white sheet of paper, and
> built-in live histograms, what's the point in having one? Makes no sense
> whatsoever. A gray-card is just last-century's necessity due to lack of
> technology, now just a bad habit. Maybe they think they are impressing someone
> by talking about the quality of their "professional" gray-card? The blind
> leading the blind. An 18% gray-card today makes absolutely NO sense in today's
> digital camera's tools and necessities.

Your information is good.

Do you know the name of the manufacturer of Rexton Optyl-7?

fhtong
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