Pentax K100D K100DS Help

"John Bean" <waterfoot DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 18:18:38 +0930, "spock"
> <vk5abcnospam DeleteThis @optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>
>>I read some people are not happy with the Pentax K100D something to do
>>with poor quality focused images.
>
> Not sure whether you mean "poor quality even when focused"
> or "poor quality because of bad focus".
>
>>Is this a urban myth or is it really so. If this is so is the K100DS any
>>better?
>
> Every camera has complaints made against it by somebody. The
> vast majority of happy users rarely make much noise about it
> but a few malcontents make their problem sound like the end
> of the world.
>
> The short answer is there is no fundamental problem with the
> camera. Nobody can comment yet on the revised version yet in
> any case, such comment would be simply speculation.
>
> --
> John Bean

So where did he hear this myth do you think John, sounds more made up to me?

The reviews I have seen have only been positive, even at DP Review and Phil
has a thing about Pentax in general.
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spock wrote:
> Hello Everyone
> I read some people are not happy with the Pentax K100D something to do
> with poor quality focused images.
> Is this a urban myth or is it really so. If this is so is the K100DS any
> better?
> I am considering buying the K100DS when it is available here.

The DS adds dust reduction and support for the new generation of lenses
with Supersonic Drive Motor, but that's all. The image quality should be
the same. "Some people" are never happy, but all reviews I've read have
been positive about the K100D.

The K10D looks especially nice, and offers several features not
available on the lower-end model, besides the higher resolution. It's
well worth the extra $$$ if you can afford it. In the U.S. the body-only
sells for under $850. Two big advantages are the availability of a
vertical battery grip, and the included Li-Ion battery and charger. You
get more than 50% more shots per charge with the K10D that with the
K100D/DS. Another advantage is the "JPEG+RAW" capability.
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spock wrote:

> Hello Everyone
> I read some people are not happy with the Pentax K100D something to do
> with poor quality focused images.
> Is this a urban myth or is it really so. If this is so is the K100DS any
> better?
> I am considering buying the K100DS when it is available here.
>
> Thank you.
>
>

The only poorly focused images out of my K100D have been my own damn
fault... The camera is fine, the lenses I have used are fine, just the
photographer has had some fumbles.

Jim
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I had a look at a K100D today the question is do I wait until the super
comes out
which won't be available here until maybe september or
Do I get the K100D now?
Does the K100D have dust problem?

Thanks


"J. F. Cornwall" <JCornwall.TakeThisOut@cox.net> wrote in message
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> spock wrote:
>
>> Hello Everyone
>> I read some people are not happy with the Pentax K100D something to do
>> with poor quality focused images.
>> Is this a urban myth or is it really so. If this is so is the K100DS any
>> better?
>> I am considering buying the K100DS when it is available here.
>>
>> Thank you.
>
> The only poorly focused images out of my K100D have been my own damn
> fault... The camera is fine, the lenses I have used are fine, just the
> photographer has had some fumbles.
>
> Jim
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On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 16:28:13 GMT, SayWhat
<spamless.DeleteThis@anon.com> wrote:

>On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 23:58:57 +0930, "spock" <vk5abcnospam.DeleteThis@optusnet.com.au>
>wrote:
>
>>I had a look at a K100D today the question is do I wait until the super
>>comes out
>>which won't be available here until maybe september or
>>Do I get the K100D now?
>>Does the K100D have dust problem?
>>
>>Thanks
>
>***ALL*** digital SLRs have a dust problem.

My Olympus E-1 has never had any kind of dust problem.

--
John Bean
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On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 18:45:07 GMT, SayWhat
<spamless.DeleteThis@anon.com> wrote:

>On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 18:41:09 +0100, John Bean <waterfoot.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 16:28:13 GMT, SayWhat
>><spamless.DeleteThis@anon.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 23:58:57 +0930, "spock" <vk5abcnospam.DeleteThis@optusnet.com.au>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>I had a look at a K100D today the question is do I wait until the super
>>>>comes out
>>>>which won't be available here until maybe september or
>>>>Do I get the K100D now?
>>>>Does the K100D have dust problem?
>>>>
>>>>Thanks
>>>
>>>***ALL*** digital SLRs have a dust problem.
>>
>>My Olympus E-1 has never had any kind of dust problem.
>
>While the E-1 has a good method to deal with dust it has to deal with it because
>it _is_ a problem.

It's not a problem *for me*.

>The ultrasonic cleaning will do nothing to particulates that
>might adhere to the sensor, or dust that attaches when minor condensation
>happens to get on the sensor when changing lenses under varying temperature and
>humidity conditions, or static charges between you and the ground and air are
>higher than can be compensated for by the ultrasonic motion.

Whatever. In real-world use I've never had need to clean it,
ever. This is my experience of the E-1... have you owned and
used one?

>Or you never changed your lens outside of laboratory "clean-room" conditions --
>meaning you bought a very very expensive, noisy, and mirror-shaking P&S camera.

Nonsense, I change lenses whenever and wherever needed.
>
>Just because your digital SLR has a better way of dealing with the dust problem
>doesn't mean it's still not a major problem with ***ALL*** of them.

Of course it does. It's not a problem at all *to me*, and
that's all that matters.

PS: I've been using digital SLRs since 2002, and the E-1 is
the only dSLR I've owned that has never needed dust
cleaning. Theorise all you want, but I have real-world
evidence that what you say is not actually true, no matter
how many stars you want to put around the word "all" for
emphasis.

PPS: the shaking sensor method used by Pentax doesn't work,
so we can agree on that at least.

--
John Bean
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spock wrote:
> I had a look at a K100D today the question is do I wait until the super
> comes out
> which won't be available here until maybe september or
> Do I get the K100D now?
> Does the K100D have dust problem?

Problems? No, I got a few dust specks on the sensor, but was able to
get them removed with a Rocket blower without any problem. I change
lenses pretty often, between the kit lens and a couple of old manual
lenses I had from film days. Me, I'd probably spring for the curent
model just so I'd be able to use it. If you keep waiting for "the nex
best thing to come along", you may never get a camera in your hands...
But that's just me.

Jim
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On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 16:28:13 GMT
SayWhat <spamless.RemoveThis@anon.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 23:58:57 +0930, "spock"
> <vk5abcnospam.RemoveThis@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>
> >I had a look at a K100D today the question is do I wait until the
> >super comes out
> >which won't be available here until maybe september or
> >Do I get the K100D now?
> >Does the K100D have dust problem?
> >
> >Thanks
>
> ***ALL*** digital SLRs have a dust problem.
>
Still less of a problem than happened with film cameras - have you ever
had a tramline to get rid of on film.
Dust on digital is not a real problem in reality but only in peoples
minds.

--
Neil
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"John Bean" <waterfoot.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 18:45:07 GMT, SayWhat
> <spamless.TakeThisOut@anon.com> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 18:41:09 +0100, John Bean <waterfoot.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 16:28:13 GMT, SayWhat
>>><spamless.TakeThisOut@anon.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 23:58:57 +0930, "spock"
>>>><vk5abcnospam.TakeThisOut@optusnet.com.au>
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>I had a look at a K100D today the question is do I wait until the
>>>>>super
>>>>>comes out
>>>>>which won't be available here until maybe september or
>>>>>Do I get the K100D now?
>>>>>Does the K100D have dust problem?
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks
>>>>
>>>>***ALL*** digital SLRs have a dust problem.
>>>
>>>My Olympus E-1 has never had any kind of dust problem.
>>
>>While the E-1 has a good method to deal with dust it has to deal with it
>>because
>>it _is_ a problem.
>
> It's not a problem *for me*.
>
>>The ultrasonic cleaning will do nothing to particulates that
>>might adhere to the sensor, or dust that attaches when minor condensation
>>happens to get on the sensor when changing lenses under varying
>>temperature and
>>humidity conditions, or static charges between you and the ground and air
>>are
>>higher than can be compensated for by the ultrasonic motion.
>
> Whatever. In real-world use I've never had need to clean it,
> ever. This is my experience of the E-1... have you owned and
> used one?
>
>>Or you never changed your lens outside of laboratory "clean-room"
>>conditions --
>>meaning you bought a very very expensive, noisy, and mirror-shaking P&S
>>camera.
>
> Nonsense, I change lenses whenever and wherever needed.
>>
>>Just because your digital SLR has a better way of dealing with the dust
>>problem
>>doesn't mean it's still not a major problem with ***ALL*** of them.
>
> Of course it does. It's not a problem at all *to me*, and
> that's all that matters.
>
> PS: I've been using digital SLRs since 2002, and the E-1 is
> the only dSLR I've owned that has never needed dust
> cleaning. Theorise all you want, but I have real-world
> evidence that what you say is not actually true, no matter
> how many stars you want to put around the word "all" for
> emphasis.
>
> PPS: the shaking sensor method used by Pentax doesn't work,
> so we can agree on that at least.
>
> --
> John Bean

Agree John, it is indeed a *****problem***** but it is quite minor, only
happens occasionally and easily dealt with. What some of these trolls seem
to forget is that the sensor is only ever exposed when you are taking a shot
because it is hidden behind the shutter curtain the rest of the time and oh
yes a big fat mirror. I have travelled extensively in very dusty conditions
in Australia and with just a little care it is only a * very minor* issue.

Cheers.

Pete
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