International Space Station Computer Takes a Permanent Dump!

In article <137a5d3qpvq8v25.TakeThisOut@news.supernews.com>, Rita Ä Berkowitz <
@aol.com> wrote:

> Because it wasn't using Windows XP. So sad as this is just another reason
> why Unix shouldn't be used for mission critical and life saving
> applications.

I heard that they tried "upgrading" to Vista and that's what dumped it.
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On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 05:34:00 -0700
"Roger N. Clark (change username to rnclark)" <username.DeleteThis@qwest.net>
wrote:

> Rita Ä Berkowitz wrote:
> > Because it wasn't using Windows XP. So sad as this is just another
> > reason why Unix shouldn't be used for mission critical and life
> > saving applications.
>
> From the news reports, it appears the problem is a power
> issue, not what operating system is being used. The newly
> installed solar panels apparently caused a power glitch
> which damaged components.
>
> I believe the US telephone system is still run by Unix and has
> been for decades. So when you dial 911, you are depending
> on Unix.
>
> And what does this have to do with photography? When I
> call up WWV to set the time on my watch so I'll
> be at the right place at the right time for those sunrise
> photos, and I'm using Unix.
>
> On the Cassini spacecraft orbiting Saturn, we generate
> all our instrument commands using Linux; many other teams
> do to. So every time you see a picture from the Saturn
> orbiter, it was done with Linux.

And let's not forget the time the so-called "smart ship" USS
Yorktown had to be towed back into port because the crash of
a Windows box shut down its propulsion control system.

Rita knows Windows is not appropriate for mission-critical
control systems. She's just trolling.

> Adobe, are you listening?: please get photoshop ported to Linux!

This would be a Good Thing, but I'd settle for continued progress
on GIMP and its several alternatives. I'm not particularly
interested in getting locked in by any proprietary vendor, even
if PhotoShop is the benchmark against which all else is measured.

Paul Allen
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On Jun 17, 7:04 am, Rita Ä Berkowitz <ritaberk2O04 @aol.com> wrote:
> Because it wasn't using Windows XP. So sad as this is just another reason
> why Unix shouldn't be used for mission critical and life saving
> applications.
>
> Rita

The ISS is the biggest space-based white elephant in the history of
the program. $180B spent on nothing. They could have run DOZENS of
good planetary missions for that cost. Rumour has it part of the
reason for it's existence was to provide work for hundreds of out of
work Russian nuclear scientists so they wouldn't go ply their trade
with the Arabs.
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On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 07:04:48 -0400, Rita Ä Berkowitz wrote:

> Because it wasn't using Windows XP. So sad as this is just another reason
> why Unix shouldn't be used for mission critical and life saving
> applications.
>
>
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>
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>
> Rita

That is not true, and you should know it. At White Sands Missile Range all
the mission critical apps are run on Unix and Linux. Almost all scientific
data analysis is too. Critical software development and support is so much
better with *nix.
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Rita Ä Berkowitz <ritaberk2O04 @aol.com> wrote:
>Because it wasn't using Windows XP. So sad as this is just another reason
>why Unix shouldn't be used for mission critical and life saving
>applications.


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On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 17:55:02 -0400
Rita Ä Berkowitz <ritaberk2O04 @aol.com> wrote:

> Paul Allen wrote:
>
> >> On the Cassini spacecraft orbiting Saturn, we generate
> >> all our instrument commands using Linux; many other teams
> >> do to. So every time you see a picture from the Saturn
> >> orbiter, it was done with Linux.
> >
> > And let's not forget the time the so-called "smart ship" USS
> > Yorktown had to be towed back into port because the crash of
> > a Windows box shut down its propulsion control system.
>
> The problem was narrowed down to the use of AMD processors.

You have no shame, have you?

> > Rita knows Windows is not appropriate for mission-critical
> > control systems. She's just trolling.
>
> Huh? Windows and Intel are an unbeatable and bulletproof combination.

Intel makes OK hardware, but Windows is bulletproof? Would be nice
if it were so, but it obviously isn't.

Paul Allen
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On 2007-06-17 04:04:48 -0700, Rita Ä Berkowitz <ritaberk2O04 @aol.com> said:

> Because it wasn't using Windows XP. So sad as this is just another
> reason why Unix shouldn't be used for mission critical and life saving
> applications.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Rita

It was a mistake to ever abandon EXEC. If the space station was using
EXEC none of this would ever have happened.
--
Waddling Eagle
World Famous Flight Instructor
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On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 17:52:59 -0400, Rita Ä Berkowitz wrote:

> ray wrote:
>
>>> Because it wasn't using Windows XP. So sad as this is just another
>>> reason why Unix shouldn't be used for mission critical and life
>>> saving applications.
>>
>> That is not true, and you should know it. At White Sands Missile
>> Range all the mission critical apps are run on Unix and Linux. Almost
>> all scientific data analysis is too. Critical software development
>> and support is so much better with *nix.
>
> Maybe this is why the "Scud Busters" of the first Gulf war were such a
> failure and couldn't distinguish between a Scud and an F-16 only to lock
> onto friendly aircraft and destroy them?
>
> As for scientific data analysis, the best data acquisition cards and
> programs are designed for DOS and Windows.

I'm so glad you believe that - it gives me much perspective on your
intelligence.


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> Rita
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Allen wrote:
> Paul Allen wrote:
>> On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 17:55:02 -0400
>> Rita Ä Berkowitz <ritaberk2O04 @aol.com> wrote:

>>> Huh? Windows and Intel are an unbeatable and bulletproof combination.
>>
>> Intel makes OK hardware, but Windows is bulletproof? Would be nice
>> if it were so, but it obviously isn't.
>>
>> Paul Allen
> If Rita would subscribe to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general, she might
> learn something about the reliability of WinXP--except,as she has proved
> on several issues, she has nothing left to learn. She must take great
> pleasure in always being right, even when she is wrong. Windows is,
> overall, a good OS, but it shares a common trait with all the software
> that I've dealt with going back to IBM 1401 days: they all will fail
> sometimes.

Berkowitz is rpd's resident - uh, troll isn't quite right; kook isn't on
the money fully, well, eccentric wannabe pet is closer. "She" is capable
of real analysis, can be very articulate and helpful; but goes off on
jags of hyperbole and is <<un agent provacateur>> of sorts. Likes a lot
of attention.

A mind is a terrible thing to waste.

--
john mcwilliams
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Paul Allen wrote:
> On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 17:55:02 -0400
> Rita Ä Berkowitz <ritaberk2O04 @aol.com> wrote:
>
>> Paul Allen wrote:
>>
>>>> On the Cassini spacecraft orbiting Saturn, we generate
>>>> all our instrument commands using Linux; many other teams
>>>> do to. So every time you see a picture from the Saturn
>>>> orbiter, it was done with Linux.
>>> And let's not forget the time the so-called "smart ship" USS
>>> Yorktown had to be towed back into port because the crash of
>>> a Windows box shut down its propulsion control system.
>> The problem was narrowed down to the use of AMD processors.
>
> You have no shame, have you?
>
>>> Rita knows Windows is not appropriate for mission-critical
>>> control systems. She's just trolling.
>> Huh? Windows and Intel are an unbeatable and bulletproof combination.
>
> Intel makes OK hardware, but Windows is bulletproof? Would be nice
> if it were so, but it obviously isn't.
>
> Paul Allen
If Rita would subscribe to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general, she might
learn something about the reliability of WinXP--except,as she has proved
on several issues, she has nothing left to learn. She must take great
pleasure in always being right, even when she is wrong. Windows is,
overall, a good OS, but it shares a common trait with all the software
that I've dealt with going back to IBM 1401 days: they all will fail
sometimes.
Allen
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