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Rabid man

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 8:59 pm
Post subject: Is there no Good image viewing and managing software ?
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I can't find software that fits this criteria

1) folder tree structure ala windows explorer. Along with that, should
come right and left click drags to copy and move files to other
directories

2) Tagging. Sorry, I don't want to keep my hand on the control key
while I select files - I want to go into tag mode and then click away

3) If I'm moving or copying a file to another directory and a file
with the same name exists, I want to see the images involved before I
just select replace

4) raw image support ie canon

XNView has a great interface but has no tagging feature whatsoever
which is unacceptable. I just tried copying files with a drag and it
give me some weird error - on a file copy no less. Unacceptable

Faststone - quick good, but file replace/overwrite does not show the
files involved. Has tagging which is pretty good although being
picking I would like a larger area to click a tag on a file. No
dragging of files ala explorer. They don't answer their emails. I have
emailed twice, about 6 months apart, and am yet to hear a response

Irfanview - just don't like it. Doesn't have the same nice interface
like the above 2 programs

Thumbs Plus - don't like messing around with thumbnail creating (might
be a way to turn this off). No drag copying but this program is pretty
good. Tagging is kludgy - a tiny flag indicates a selection and you
have to hit the insert key. Viewing tagged files is buried in a
menu....No so professional looking interface with a cheesy thumb icon

ACDSee - would love to try the latest version but it crashes on my
main comp. I have used older versions which seemed quite good

Is there not a program out there has nice tagging, an explorer like
interface, drag and drop copying/moving, shows the files involved in a
file replace /overwrite and has support for raw images ???

any input appreciated..

best regards

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Mark B.

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 9:23 am
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Have you looked at BreezeBrowser? You can d/l a trial at www.breezesys.com.
You'll need the Pro version for support of more recent raw files.

Mark

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 2:59 pm
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On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 20:59:24 -0700, Rabid man <rclarke.RemoveThis@idirect.com>
wrote:

>I can't find software that fits this criteria
>
>1) folder tree structure ala windows explorer. Along with that, should
>come right and left click drags to copy and move files to other
>directories
>
>2) Tagging. Sorry, I don't want to keep my hand on the control key
>while I select files - I want to go into tag mode and then click away
>
>3) If I'm moving or copying a file to another directory and a file
>with the same name exists, I want to see the images involved before I
>just select replace
>
>4) raw image support ie canon
>
>XNView has a great interface but has no tagging feature whatsoever
>which is unacceptable. I just tried copying files with a drag and it
>give me some weird error - on a file copy no less. Unacceptable
>
>Faststone - quick good, but file replace/overwrite does not show the
>files involved. Has tagging which is pretty good although being
>picking I would like a larger area to click a tag on a file. No
>dragging of files ala explorer. They don't answer their emails. I have
>emailed twice, about 6 months apart, and am yet to hear a response
>
>Irfanview - just don't like it. Doesn't have the same nice interface
>like the above 2 programs
>
>Thumbs Plus - don't like messing around with thumbnail creating (might
>be a way to turn this off). No drag copying but this program is pretty
>good. Tagging is kludgy - a tiny flag indicates a selection and you
>have to hit the insert key. Viewing tagged files is buried in a
>menu....No so professional looking interface with a cheesy thumb icon
>
>ACDSee - would love to try the latest version but it crashes on my
>main comp. I have used older versions which seemed quite good
>
>Is there not a program out there has nice tagging, an explorer like
>interface, drag and drop copying/moving, shows the files involved in a
>file replace /overwrite and has support for raw images ???
>
>any input appreciated..
>
>best regards

Check out Lightroom. It will do most anything you want and the
interface is superb. It was designed from the ground up for
photographers (A bit pricey, though.)


Steve
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Rabid man

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 7:56 pm
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thanks for the responses...
Breeze browser has no drag and drop support and file overwrites do not
show the files involved

cheers...

On Aug 12, 9:23 am, "Mark B." <mbohntras....RemoveThis@comcast.net> wrote:
> Have you looked at BreezeBrowser? You can d/l a trial atwww.breezesys.com.
> You'll need the Pro version for support of more recent raw files.
>
> Mark
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Mark B.

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 8:02 pm
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"Rabid man" <rclarke.DeleteThis@idirect.com> wrote in message
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> thanks for the responses...
> Breeze browser has no drag and drop support

Certainly it does, assuming you mean drag 'n drop in the traditional sense -
simply grab the thumbnail shown on the right-side pane and drag it to a new
folder.

> and file overwrites do not
> show the files involved
>

If I drag a file to a folder already containing a file with the same name,
it asks if I want to replace the file and does in fact show the file name.

Mark
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Rabid man

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 9:31 pm
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drag and drop yes (move), drag and copy, if I recollect correctly, not

the filename - BUT NOT THE PICTURES of the the files involved...
acdsee does (but crashes non stop)

the quest continues...

On Aug 13, 8:02 pm, "Mark B." <mbohntras... RemoveThis @comcast.net> wrote:
> "Rabid man" <rcla... RemoveThis @idirect.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1187045789.338535.89680@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
>
> > thanks for the responses...
> > Breeze browser has no drag and drop support
>
> Certainly it does, assuming you mean drag 'n drop in the traditional sense -
> simply grab the thumbnail shown on the right-side pane and drag it to a new
> folder.
>
> > and file overwrites do not
> > show the files involved
>
> If I drag a file to a folder already containing a file with the same name,
> it asks if I want to replace the file and does in fact show the file name.
>
> Mark
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Mark B.

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 6:29 am
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"Rabid man" <rclarke DeleteThis @idirect.com> wrote in message
news:1187152272.982995.117540@x35g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> drag and drop yes (move), drag and copy, if I recollect correctly, not
>
> the filename - BUT NOT THE PICTURES of the the files involved...
> acdsee does (but crashes non stop)
>
> the quest continues...
>

You're nitpicking. Right-click will bring up a menu where you can select
'copy to...'. As for drag 'n drop, you have to drag the thumbnail...you're
looking right at the pic involved to do it, so I don't understand what
you're getting at.

Mark
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David J Taylor

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 12:43 pm
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You could also try: PIE - Picture Information Extractor

http://www.picmeta.com/en.htm

and PIE Studio: "The integrated solution for image management and
printing."

David
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Anoni Moose

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 12:50 pm
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On Aug 11, 8:59 pm, Rabid man <rcla... RemoveThis @idirect.com> wrote:
> I can't find software that fits this criteria
>
> 1) folder tree structure ala windows explorer. Along with that, should
> come right and left click drags to copy and move files to other
> directories
>
> 2) Tagging. Sorry, I don't want to keep my hand on the control key
> while I select files - I want to go into tag mode and then click away
>
> 3) If I'm moving or copying a file to another directory and a file
> with the same name exists, I want to see the images involved before I
> just select replace
>
> 4) raw image support ie canon

Although I can't suggest anything directly, I will suggest
consideration of
a different "mode" of operation. Rather than organizing through
"physical"
movement of tiles in directories, organize things virtually. Have
files be
"wherever" (we use half-year container directories with session
subdirectories)
but have an organized view of them that itself can be manipulated.
Meaning you still move images around however you want, but you're not
moving
the files, but the way they're organized in the the program's
database. There
are a lot of pragmatic advantages to this approach and a lot of
programs make
this method workable. There's a website with something like a couple
dozen
programs with their features put in a single large table (and links to
each). Don't
recall where it is but it should be google findable. For me it was
ironic that I
was ready to pay out big bucks for something good when a cheap one
($30)
turned out to be the best for my needs (which did not include Canon
raw support).
Post what you end up with!
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 6:26 pm
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Mark..

not sure why you don't understand this...

you are moving a picture (which you can see) to another directory..
O no, that same file name exists in the other directory...
Do you want to overwrite the file ? maybe...some programs will show
both files involved in the dialog box. Not just the file names, the
actual
picture of the 2 files involved - then you know for sure whether you
want to overwrite....
without this feature, you have to go to that other directory, find the
file, view it and make
sure if you want to overwrite it or not...

can't make it any clearer than that...


On Aug 15, 6:29 am, "Mark B." <mbohntras....RemoveThis@comcast.net> wrote:
> "Rabid man" <rcla....RemoveThis@idirect.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1187152272.982995.117540@x35g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>
> > drag and drop yes (move), drag and copy, if I recollect correctly, not
>
> > the filename - BUT NOT THE PICTURES of the the files involved...
> > acdsee does (but crashes non stop)
>
> > the quest continues...
>
> You're nitpicking. Right-click will bring up a menu where you can select
> 'copy to...'. As for drag 'n drop, you have to drag the thumbnail...you're
> looking right at the pic involved to do it, so I don't understand what
> you're getting at.
>
> Mark
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Rabid man

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(Msg. 11) Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 6:29 pm
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I prefer to move files to a proper directory structure than rely on
some
program (akin to video editing really) that sets markers

I understand your point but its not the route I want to take..

thanks for the teaser on the big table !!!!

acdsee is just about perfect but it crashes...
If anyone has a similar program to that which is stable, that would
be great...

n Aug 15, 3:50 pm, Anoni Moose <gew....DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Aug 11, 8:59 pm, Rabid man <rcla....DeleteThis@idirect.com> wrote:
>
> > I can't find software that fits this criteria
>
> > 1) folder tree structure ala windows explorer. Along with that, should
> > come right and left click drags to copy and move files to other
> > directories
>
> > 2) Tagging. Sorry, I don't want to keep my hand on the control key
> > while I select files - I want to go into tag mode and then click away
>
> > 3) If I'm moving or copying a file to another directory and a file
> > with the same name exists, I want to see the images involved before I
> > just select replace
>
> > 4) raw image support ie canon
>
> Although I can't suggest anything directly, I will suggest
> consideration of
> a different "mode" of operation. Rather than organizing through
> "physical"
> movement of tiles in directories, organize things virtually. Have
> files be
> "wherever" (we use half-year container directories with session
> subdirectories)
> but have an organized view of them that itself can be manipulated.
> Meaning you still move images around however you want, but you're not
> moving
> the files, but the way they're organized in the the program's
> database. There
> are a lot of pragmatic advantages to this approach and a lot of
> programs make
> this method workable. There's a website with something like a couple
> dozen
> programs with their features put in a single large table (and links to
> each). Don't
> recall where it is but it should be google findable. For me it was
> ironic that I
> was ready to pay out big bucks for something good when a cheap one
> ($30)
> turned out to be the best for my needs (which did not include Canon
> raw support).
> Post what you end up with!
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 6:54 pm
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PIE is pretty good with a small footprint and great interface

but.....
NO file tagging, file overwrite does not show the images involved,
no raw support, don't see a way to filter out non image files...



On Aug 15, 8:43 am, "David J Taylor" <david-tay....RemoveThis@blueyonder.not-this-
bit.nor-this-bit.co.uk> wrote:
> You could also try: PIE - Picture Information Extractor
>
> http://www.picmeta.com/en.htm
>
> and PIE Studio: "The integrated solution for image management and
> printing."
>
> David
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 2:41 am
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On Aug 16, 11:29 am, Rabid man <rcla....DeleteThis@idirect.com> wrote:
>
> acdsee is just about perfect but it crashes...
> If anyone has a similar program to that which is stable, that would
> be great...


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(Msg. 14) Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 5:55 am
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Rabid man wrote:
> PIE is pretty good with a small footprint and great interface
>
> but.....
> NO file tagging, file overwrite does not show the images involved,
> no raw support, don't see a way to filter out non image files...

... so nothing is perfect!

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(Msg. 15) Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 6:23 am
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"Rabid man" <rclarke DeleteThis @idirect.com> wrote in message
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> Mark..
>
> not sure why you don't understand this...
>
> you are moving a picture (which you can see) to another directory..
> O no, that same file name exists in the other directory...
> Do you want to overwrite the file ? maybe...some programs will show
> both files involved in the dialog box. Not just the file names, the
> actual
> picture of the 2 files involved - then you know for sure whether you
> want to overwrite....
> without this feature, you have to go to that other directory, find the
> file, view it and make
> sure if you want to overwrite it or not...
>
> can't make it any clearer than that...
>

If overwriting files of the same name is a common occurence for you, then
you need to change how you're managing files.
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