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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 7:20 pm
Post subject: Good for Pentax! Eliminate the horrible little P&Ss
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Near identical, rotten little silver boxes should be left to the
marketing companies like what's left of Vivitar and GE to produce.
Camera phones will replace the P&S at some point as well. If this
story is true, Pentax is doing the right thing. The evolution of this
will be mirrorless DSLRs.
from amateurphotography magazine:
Pentax to 'phase out' digital compact camera production
Tuesday 12th February 2008
Chris Cheesman
Optio A40
Pentax plans to phase out digital compact camera production and
concentrate on DSLRs, according to a report in a leading Japanese
trade journal, which has not been denied by Pentax Europe.
Pentax, which is one of the most famous brands in photography, is due
to merge with Hoya Corporation on 31 March.
Hoya's CEO Hiroshi Suzuki is reported to have told Japanese trade
magazine Pen News Weekly that Pentax will concentrate on DSLRs and
'gradually phase down development and production of compact digicams
in future'.
At the time of writing we were waiting for an official comment from
Pentax.
It is thought that, in the short term at least, Pentax will use a
third party to manufacture its compact cameras.
The Pen article adds that Hoya 'will focus its development resources
on DSLRs and will gradually phase down marketing operations for
compact digicams under the Pentax brand and specialise in OEM
businesses in order to improve the profit profile of its digicam
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 3:57 am
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On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 19:20:02 -0800 (PST), RichA <rander3127.DeleteThis@gmail.com>
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>Near identical, rotten little silver boxes should be left to the
>marketing companies like what's left of Vivitar and GE to produce.
>Camera phones will replace the P&S at some point as well. If this
>story is true, Pentax is doing the right thing. The evolution of this
>will be mirrorless DSLRs.
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>from amateurphotography magazine:
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>Pentax to 'phase out' digital compact camera production
All this means is that Pentax got its butt kicked in compact cameras.
Being borged by Hoya isn't a good thing. How sad.
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 4:45 am
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What is Pentax anyway?
They are basically a name sold to Samsung and who knows what Hoya is getting
out of the deal?
The very small Pentax lens lineup is actually made by what Japanese
manufacturer: hint--starts with a "T" and not a "P".
The current issue of Shutterbug is pimping a non/pre-preproduction Pentax
dSLR with a sensor made by who?
For the near term the only old line Japanese SLR makers still in the race
are Nikon and Canon.
For the rest of the market the real question is how long will Olympus, Sony,
Panasonic, Pentax, et al hang in there?
In any event the market for P&Ses dwarfs the dSLR market. However price
beats quality in most of this market segment. >> Stay informed about: Good for Pentax! Eliminate the horrible little P&Ss |
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 4:55 am
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On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 04:45:44 GMT, "flambe" <fac187.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in
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>What is Pentax anyway?
>They are basically a name sold to Samsung and who knows what Hoya is getting
>out of the deal?
>The very small Pentax lens lineup is actually made by what Japanese
>manufacturer: hint--starts with a "T" and not a "P".
>The current issue of Shutterbug is pimping a non/pre-preproduction Pentax
>dSLR with a sensor made by who?
>For the near term the only old line Japanese SLR makers still in the race
>are Nikon and Canon.
>For the rest of the market the real question is how long will Olympus, Sony,
>Panasonic, Pentax, et al hang in there?
>...
Olympus, Sony and Panasonic are all doing pretty well.
BTW, you left out Kodak. 
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 12:23 pm
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On Feb 13, 1:23 pm, "Steve B" <sbradsPUTTWENTYFOURH... RemoveThis @ukfsn.org>
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> "flambe" <fac... RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> news:YBusj.7146$R84.3134@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net...
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> > What is Pentax anyway?
> > They are basically a name sold to Samsung and who knows what Hoya is
> > getting out of the deal?
> > The very small Pentax lens lineup is actually made by what Japanese
> > manufacturer: hint--starts with a "T" and not a "P".
> > The current issue of Shutterbug is pimping a non/pre-preproduction Pentax
> > dSLR with a sensor made by who?
> > For the near term the only old line Japanese SLR makers still in the race
> > are Nikon and Canon.
> > For the rest of the market the real question is how long will Olympus,
> > Sony, Panasonic, Pentax, et al hang in there?
> > In any event the market for P&Ses dwarfs the dSLR market. However price
> > beats quality in most of this market segment.
>
> Pentax designed the new 14.6MP sensor, Samsung made it.
And not to jump the gun, but if the images seen from it are "real" it
looks like a winner. >> Stay informed about: Good for Pentax! Eliminate the horrible little P&Ss |
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 3:37 pm
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On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 19:20:02 -0800, RichA wrote:
> Near identical, rotten little silver boxes should be left to the
> marketing companies like what's left of Vivitar and GE to produce.
> Camera phones will replace the P&S at some point as well. If this story
> is true, Pentax is doing the right thing. The evolution of this will be
> mirrorless DSLRs.
Already have them - they're called EVF.
> >> Stay informed about: Good for Pentax! Eliminate the horrible little P&Ss |
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 6:15 pm
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"flambe" <fac187 RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> What is Pentax anyway?
> They are basically a name sold to Samsung and who knows what Hoya is
> getting out of the deal?
> The very small Pentax lens lineup is actually made by what Japanese
> manufacturer: hint--starts with a "T" and not a "P".
> The current issue of Shutterbug is pimping a non/pre-preproduction Pentax
> dSLR with a sensor made by who?
> For the near term the only old line Japanese SLR makers still in the race
> are Nikon and Canon.
> For the rest of the market the real question is how long will Olympus,
> Sony, Panasonic, Pentax, et al hang in there?
> In any event the market for P&Ses dwarfs the dSLR market. However price
> beats quality in most of this market segment.
Olympus, Sony, and Panasonic are doing more than "just hanging in there."
Sony is getting very agressive in the SLR market, as is Oly and Panny.
Pentax, whoever they are, will continue to be a player in the SLR market but
will not catch Canon or Nikon, ever.
And as far as them getting out of the compact business, well, they're
cameras sucked and weren't competitive with Canon or Sony. >> Stay informed about: Good for Pentax! Eliminate the horrible little P&Ss |
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 6:16 pm
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"ray" <ray.RemoveThis@zianet.com> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 19:20:02 -0800, RichA wrote:
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>> Near identical, rotten little silver boxes should be left to the
>> marketing companies like what's left of Vivitar and GE to produce.
>> Camera phones will replace the P&S at some point as well. If this story
>> is true, Pentax is doing the right thing. The evolution of this will be
>> mirrorless DSLRs.
>
> Already have them - they're called EVF.
And if the EVF ever gets out of the stone age, we might hae something... >> Stay informed about: Good for Pentax! Eliminate the horrible little P&Ss |
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 6:23 pm
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"flambe" <fac187.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> What is Pentax anyway?
> They are basically a name sold to Samsung and who knows what Hoya is
> getting out of the deal?
> The very small Pentax lens lineup is actually made by what Japanese
> manufacturer: hint--starts with a "T" and not a "P".
> The current issue of Shutterbug is pimping a non/pre-preproduction Pentax
> dSLR with a sensor made by who?
> For the near term the only old line Japanese SLR makers still in the race
> are Nikon and Canon.
> For the rest of the market the real question is how long will Olympus,
> Sony, Panasonic, Pentax, et al hang in there?
> In any event the market for P&Ses dwarfs the dSLR market. However price
> beats quality in most of this market segment.
>
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 6:54 pm
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 6:54 pm
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On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 18:16:19 GMT, "Jufi" <bowser.RemoveThis@heart.com> wrote in
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>"ray" <ray.RemoveThis@zianet.com> wrote in message
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>> On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 19:20:02 -0800, RichA wrote:
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>>> Near identical, rotten little silver boxes should be left to the
>>> marketing companies like what's left of Vivitar and GE to produce.
>>> Camera phones will replace the P&S at some point as well. If this story
>>> is true, Pentax is doing the right thing. The evolution of this will be
>>> mirrorless DSLRs.
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>> Already have them - they're called EVF.
>
>And if the EVF ever gets out of the stone age, we might hae something...
Works fine here.
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 9:22 pm
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"John Navas" <spamfilter1.RemoveThis@navasgroup.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 18:16:19 GMT, "Jufi" <bowser.RemoveThis@heart.com> wrote in
> <TtGsj.2495$YJ4.1052@trndny01>:
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>>"ray" <ray.RemoveThis@zianet.com> wrote in message
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>>> On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 19:20:02 -0800, RichA wrote:
>>>
>>>> Near identical, rotten little silver boxes should be left to the
>>>> marketing companies like what's left of Vivitar and GE to produce.
>>>> Camera phones will replace the P&S at some point as well. If this
>>>> story
>>>> is true, Pentax is doing the right thing. The evolution of this will
>>>> be
>>>> mirrorless DSLRs.
>>>
>>> Already have them - they're called EVF.
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>>And if the EVF ever gets out of the stone age, we might hae something...
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> Works fine here.
They work OK, but the best EVF is crude compared to the display in an SLR.
Grainy, ghosting, dull, hard to see in daylight, etc. I've used one
extensively in an FZ50, and compared to the viewfinder in any SLR, it's a
distant second place.
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 10:52 pm
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On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 21:22:51 GMT, "Jufi" <bowser RemoveThis @heart.com> wrote in
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>"John Navas" <spamfilter1 RemoveThis @navasgroup.com> wrote in message
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>> On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 18:16:19 GMT, "Jufi" <bowser RemoveThis @heart.com> wrote in
>> <TtGsj.2495$YJ4.1052@trndny01>:
>>>And if the EVF ever gets out of the stone age, we might hae something...
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>> Works fine here.
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>They work OK, but the best EVF is crude compared to the display in an SLR.
>Grainy, ghosting, dull, hard to see in daylight, etc. I've used one
>extensively in an FZ50, and compared to the viewfinder in any SLR, it's a
>distant second place.
My own take is that the FZ50 viewfinder is quite good. I haven't seen
such problems as you list. Are you thinking of the rear display instead
of the EVF (which isn't a problem in daylight)? Perhaps the one you
tried was defective.
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 2:30 am
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>You can start with their own press announcement. It makes it quite clear
>where it came from and who designed it.
I don't much stock in press releases -- more hype than truth.
>But, I guess for some reading isn't FUN-DEmental!
But, I guess for some being childish is FUN-DEmental!
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 3:17 am
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On 13 Feb., 05:45, "flambe" <fac... RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
> What is Pentax anyway?
> They are basically a name sold to Samsung and who knows what Hoya is getting
> out of the deal?
> The very small Pentax lens lineup is actually made by what Japanese
> manufacturer: hint--starts with a "T" and not a "P".
> The current issue of Shutterbug is pimping a non/pre-preproduction Pentax
> dSLR with a sensor made by who?
> For the near term the only old line Japanese SLR makers still in the race
> are Nikon and Canon.
> For the rest of the market the real question is how long will Olympus, Sony,
> Panasonic, Pentax, et al hang in there?
> In any event the market for P&Ses dwarfs the dSLR market. However price
> beats quality in most of this market segment.
well, i'm happy with my pentax. it's a fine machine, wouldn't want to
have any other at the moment. doesn't matter if pentax is just a name,
doesn't matter if it was made by somebody else. it's the product that
counts, and if it's good than all this talk is just hot air and a
waste of time. >> Stay informed about: Good for Pentax! Eliminate the horrible little P&Ss |
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