"The Genius of Photography"

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Rita Ä Berkowitz wrote:
> Ben Miller wrote:
>
>> Anyone been watching this? Some really interesting stuff, some boring
>> stuff. Some pompous, untalented windbags, some incredibly innovative
>> photogs. Some great photos, some weak photos. Overall a A- for the
>> series so far. The production and participants, as a whole, seem to
>> lend equal credibility to digital, film and other photographic mediums
>> - no pissing matches or insults flying from any one camp. Catch it if
>> you can...
>
> I think the neatest part of that show was the Camera Obscura.

Have you ever been in a real camera obscura? We went to the one in
Edinburgh this summer - it's SO cool. After the demonstration, they
turned this red light on, and I took a photo with a fisheye at ISO 1000.
http://trupin.smugmug.com/gallery/3283661#182778046-A-LB
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Cynicor wrote:
> Rita Ä Berkowitz wrote:
>> Ben Miller wrote:
>>
>>> Anyone been watching this? Some really interesting stuff, some boring
>>> stuff. Some pompous, untalented windbags, some incredibly innovative
>>> photogs. Some great photos, some weak photos. Overall a A- for the
>>> series so far. The production and participants, as a whole, seem to
>>> lend equal credibility to digital, film and other photographic mediums
>>> - no pissing matches or insults flying from any one camp. Catch it if
>>> you can...
>>
>> I think the neatest part of that show was the Camera Obscura.
>
> Have you ever been in a real camera obscura? We went to the one in
> Edinburgh this summer - it's SO cool. After the demonstration, they
> turned this red light on, and I took a photo with a fisheye at ISO 1000.
> http://trupin.smugmug.com/gallery/3283661#182778046-A-LB

I've been in the one in San Francisco by the Cliff House. Very cool.
"http://www.giantcamera.com/"
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Cynicor wrote:
> Rita Ä Berkowitz wrote:
>> Ben Miller wrote:
>>
>>> Anyone been watching this? Some really interesting stuff, some
>>> boring stuff. Some pompous, untalented windbags, some incredibly
>>> innovative photogs. Some great photos, some weak photos. Overall
>>> a A- for the series so far. The production and
>>> participants, as a whole, seem to lend equal credibility to
>>> digital, film and other photographic mediums - no pissing matches
>>> or insults flying from any one camp. Catch it if you can...
>>
>> I think the neatest part of that show was the Camera Obscura.
>
> Have you ever been in a real camera obscura? We went to the one in
> Edinburgh this summer - it's SO cool. After the demonstration, they
> turned this red light on, and I took a photo with a fisheye at ISO
> 1000. http://trupin.smugmug.com/gallery/3283661#182778046-A-LB

Nice.

I enjoyed looking at your other images, as well. Thank you for the
opportunity.

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Frank ess
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Cynicor wrote:
> Rita Ä Berkowitz wrote:
>> Ben Miller wrote:
>>
>>> Anyone been watching this? Some really interesting stuff, some boring
>>> stuff. Some pompous, untalented windbags, some incredibly innovative
>>> photogs. Some great photos, some weak photos. Overall a A- for the
>>> series so far. The production and participants, as a whole, seem to
>>> lend equal credibility to digital, film and other photographic mediums
>>> - no pissing matches or insults flying from any one camp. Catch it if
>>> you can...
>>
>> I think the neatest part of that show was the Camera Obscura.
>
> Have you ever been in a real camera obscura? We went to the one in
> Edinburgh this summer - it's SO cool. After the demonstration, they
> turned this red light on, and I took a photo with a fisheye at ISO 1000.
> http://trupin.smugmug.com/gallery/3283661#182778046-A-LB

I think the one in the program was more impressive in a way.

It had no lens!!

BugBear (who has also enjoyed the Edinburgh one)
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On 2007-11-22, bugbear <bugbear RemoveThis @trim_papermule.co.uk_trim> wrote:
> Cynicor wrote:
>> Rita Ä Berkowitz wrote:
>>>
>>> I think the neatest part of that show was the Camera Obscura.
>>
>> Have you ever been in a real camera obscura? We went to the one in
>> Edinburgh this summer - it's SO cool. After the demonstration, they
>> turned this red light on, and I took a photo with a fisheye at ISO 1000.
>> http://trupin.smugmug.com/gallery/3283661#182778046-A-LB
>
> I think the one in the program was more impressive in a way.
>
> It had no lens!!
>

That's rather the point of a camera obscura.

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Chris Savage wrote:
> On 2007-11-22, bugbear <bugbear.TakeThisOut@trim_papermule.co.uk_trim> wrote:
>> Cynicor wrote:
>>> Rita Ä Berkowitz wrote:
>>>> I think the neatest part of that show was the Camera Obscura.
>>> Have you ever been in a real camera obscura? We went to the one in
>>> Edinburgh this summer - it's SO cool. After the demonstration, they
>>> turned this red light on, and I took a photo with a fisheye at ISO 1000.
>>> http://trupin.smugmug.com/gallery/3283661#182778046-A-LB
>> I think the one in the program was more impressive in a way.
>>
>> It had no lens!!
>
> That's rather the point of a camera obscura.

Some do, some don't. The one in Edinburgh has periscope-style optics,
and the direction view can be changed as projected onto a concave table.
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"Chris Savage" <spam.goes.here.RemoveThis@devnull.savvo.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On 2007-11-22, bugbear <bugbear.RemoveThis@trim_papermule.co.uk_trim> wrote:
>> Cynicor wrote:
>>> Rita Ä Berkowitz wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I think the neatest part of that show was the Camera Obscura.
>>>
>>> Have you ever been in a real camera obscura? We went to the one in
>>> Edinburgh this summer - it's SO cool. After the demonstration, they
>>> turned this red light on, and I took a photo with a fisheye at ISO 1000.
>>> http://trupin.smugmug.com/gallery/3283661#182778046-A-LB
>>
>> I think the one in the program was more impressive in a way.
>>
>> It had no lens!!
>>
>
> That's rather the point of a camera obscura.
>

I'm pretty sure it isn't.
"camera obscura" == "dark chamber"
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On 2007-11-22, Deep Reset <DeepReset RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
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> "Chris Savage" <spam.goes.here RemoveThis @devnull.savvo.co.uk> wrote in message
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>> On 2007-11-22, bugbear <bugbear RemoveThis @trim_papermule.co.uk_trim> wrote:
>>> Cynicor wrote:
>>>> Rita Ä Berkowitz wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I think the neatest part of that show was the Camera Obscura.
>>>>
>>>> Have you ever been in a real camera obscura? We went to the one in
>>>> Edinburgh this summer - it's SO cool. After the demonstration, they
>>>> turned this red light on, and I took a photo with a fisheye at ISO 1000.
>>>> http://trupin.smugmug.com/gallery/3283661#182778046-A-LB
>>>
>>> I think the one in the program was more impressive in a way.
>>>
>>> It had no lens!!
>>>
>>
>> That's rather the point of a camera obscura.
>>
>
> I'm pretty sure it isn't.
> "camera obscura" == "dark chamber"
>

Ok, you're going to have to elaborate a little. What is there in the
phrase 'dark chamber' that says a camera obscura is constructed with a
lens?

I'm loath to quote wikipedia but too lazy to do anything else: "The
principle of the camera obscura can be demonstrated with a rudimentary
type, just a box (which may be room-size) with a hole in one side".

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"Chris Savage" <spam.goes.here.TakeThisOut@devnull.savvo.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On 2007-11-22, Deep Reset <DeepReset.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> "Chris Savage" <spam.goes.here.TakeThisOut@devnull.savvo.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:md1h15-qh8.ln1@tog.savvo.co.uk...
>>> On 2007-11-22, bugbear <bugbear.TakeThisOut@trim_papermule.co.uk_trim> wrote:
>>>> Cynicor wrote:
>>>>> Rita Ä Berkowitz wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think the neatest part of that show was the Camera Obscura.
>>>>>
>>>>> Have you ever been in a real camera obscura? We went to the one in
>>>>> Edinburgh this summer - it's SO cool. After the demonstration, they
>>>>> turned this red light on, and I took a photo with a fisheye at ISO
>>>>> 1000.
>>>>> http://trupin.smugmug.com/gallery/3283661#182778046-A-LB
>>>>
>>>> I think the one in the program was more impressive in a way.
>>>>
>>>> It had no lens!!
>>>>
>>>
>>> That's rather the point of a camera obscura.
>>>
>>
>> I'm pretty sure it isn't.
>> "camera obscura" == "dark chamber"
>>
>
> Ok, you're going to have to elaborate a little. What is there in the
> phrase 'dark chamber' that says a camera obscura is constructed with a
> lens?

And what is there in the phrase that says that it isn't or can't be?
In fact, if you put a hole in a dark chamber, it actually becomes a dim
chamber, assuming there is an external light source shining on the hole, so
the name itself is misleading. Damn Romans.

> I'm loath to quote wikipedia but too lazy to do anything else: "The
> principle of the camera obscura can be demonstrated with a rudimentary
> type, just a box (which may be room-size) with a hole in one side".

The word "can" is pretty key in that sentence.
It /can/ also be demonstrated with a lens.
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