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(Msg. 1) Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 10:05 am
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 10:05 am
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On Jan 24, 8:27 am, Dave Cohen <u....DeleteThis@example.net> wrote:
> Alfred Molon wrote:
> >http://www.dpreview.com/news/0801/08012410fujifS100FS.asp
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> > 2/3" sensor, 11MP, IS, 28-400mm zoom, compact and lightweight
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> Apart from the compulsion to engage in the mp race, this looks like a
> very promising alternative to a dslr for at least some of us.
> Dave Cohen
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 12:31 pm
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On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 10:05:45 +0100, Alfred Molon
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>http://www.dpreview.com/news/0801/08012410fujifS100FS.asp
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>2/3" sensor, 11MP, IS, 28-400mm zoom, compact and lightweight
The swivelling LCD is attractive, lightweight? Not at 2lbs.
Nor compact at ::
Weight (no batt) Approx 918g/32.4 oz
Dimensions 133.4(W)×93.6(H)×150.4(D) mm / 5.3(W)× 3.7(H)× 5.9(D)
(DP reviews specs)
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 2:27 pm
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 3:18 pm
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On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 06:40:24 -0800 (PST), Don Stauffer in Minnesota <stauffer.TakeThisOut@usfamily.net> wrote:
> On Jan 24, 8:27 am, Dave Cohen <u....TakeThisOut@example.net> wrote:
>> Alfred Molon wrote:
>> >http://www.dpreview.com/news/0801/08012410fujifS100FS.asp
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>> > 2/3" sensor, 11MP, IS, 28-400mm zoom, compact and lightweight
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>> Apart from the compulsion to engage in the mp race, this looks like a
>> very promising alternative to a dslr for at least some of us.
>> Dave Cohen
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> Does it have optical TTL viewfinding?
There's a viewfinder, but looking through the spec sheet at that URL, it
appears to be electronic, not optical. That's not too surprising; pretty
much all of the superzooms that have viewfinders have electronic ones.
-dms >> Stay informed about: Fuji's DSLR killer |
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 3:18 pm
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Daniel Silevitch wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 06:40:24 -0800 (PST), Don Stauffer in Minnesota <stauffer RemoveThis @usfamily.net> wrote:
>> On Jan 24, 8:27 am, Dave Cohen <u... RemoveThis @example.net> wrote:
>>> Alfred Molon wrote:
>>>> http://www.dpreview.com/news/0801/08012410fujifS100FS.asp
>>>> 2/3" sensor, 11MP, IS, 28-400mm zoom, compact and lightweight
>>> Apart from the compulsion to engage in the mp race, this looks like a
>>> very promising alternative to a dslr for at least some of us.
>>> Dave Cohen
>> Does it have optical TTL viewfinding?
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> There's a viewfinder, but looking through the spec sheet at that URL, it
> appears to be electronic, not optical. That's not too surprising; pretty
> much all of the superzooms that have viewfinders have electronic ones.
IAE, it's not a "DSLR killer". Nor is Canon killing Nikon, nor the reverse.
Is there any hope for de-escalating comparison creep? A way to express
oneself without hyperbole? (Rita excluded)
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 4:07 pm
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On Jan 24, 1:28 pm, Alfred Molon <alfred_mo....TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote:
> In article <66be55f6-720d-4fab-addf-cf175bc795b3
> @s19g2000prg.googlegroups.com>, Don Stauffer in Minnesota says...
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> > Does it have optical TTL viewfinding?
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> Of course not - how could a non-SLR camera with a 28-400mm lens have an
> optical viewfinder?
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> Alfred Molon
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> Olympus 50X0, 8080, E3X0, E4X0, E5X0 and E3 forum athttp://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/MyOlympus/http://myolympus.org/photo sharing site
Split prism? Partial mirror? One path to the sensor, one path to the
optical view finder. It is doable, but not an attractive solution,
the viewfinder would be dim. >> Stay informed about: Fuji's DSLR killer |
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 7:28 pm
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 11:46 pm
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 11:46 pm
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In article <23thp3p46b7cskaitku7udcmc1u1bmp7sv RemoveThis @4ax.com>, irwell says...
> The swivelling LCD is attractive, lightweight? Not at 2lbs.
> Nor compact at ::
> Weight (no batt) Approx 918g/32.4 oz
> Dimensions 133.4(W)×93.6(H)×150.4(D) mm / 5.3(W)× 3.7(H)× 5.9(D)
> (DP reviews specs)
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> Like carrying the Oxford Concise Dictionary about.
Let's say it's more compact and light than a DSLR with a 28-400 lens.
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 12:59 am
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"John McWilliams" <jpmcw RemoveThis @comcast.net> wrote in message
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> Daniel Silevitch wrote:
>> On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 06:40:24 -0800 (PST), Don Stauffer in Minnesota
>> <stauffer RemoveThis @usfamily.net> wrote:
>>> On Jan 24, 8:27 am, Dave Cohen <u... RemoveThis @example.net> wrote:
>>>> Alfred Molon wrote:
>>>>> http://www.dpreview.com/news/0801/08012410fujifS100FS.asp
>>>>> 2/3" sensor, 11MP, IS, 28-400mm zoom, compact and lightweight
>>>> Apart from the compulsion to engage in the mp race, this looks like a
>>>> very promising alternative to a dslr for at least some of us.
>>>> Dave Cohen
>>> Does it have optical TTL viewfinding?
>>
>> There's a viewfinder, but looking through the spec sheet at that URL, it
>> appears to be electronic, not optical. That's not too surprising; pretty
>> much all of the superzooms that have viewfinders have electronic ones.
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> IAE, it's not a "DSLR killer". Nor is Canon killing Nikon, nor the
> reverse.
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> Is there any hope for de-escalating comparison creep? A way to express
> oneself without hyperbole? (Rita excluded)
Hmm..... Creep and Rita in the same paragrah? Coincidence?
Anyway, I agree that comparisons are sometimes silly, but they are
inevitable. When I look at a camera like the new Fuji, the question is
simple: "what needs could it fill?" If you have the needs that match the
camera, fine. If not, get something else. Comparing this to any SLR is a
waste of time. Just get the best tool for the job. >> Stay informed about: Fuji's DSLR killer |
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 9:00 am
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Alfred Molon wrote:
> In article <23thp3p46b7cskaitku7udcmc1u1bmp7sv RemoveThis @4ax.com>, irwell
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>> The swivelling LCD is attractive, lightweight? Not at 2lbs.
>> Nor compact at ::
>> Weight (no batt) Approx 918g/32.4 oz
>> Dimensions 133.4(W)×93.6(H)×150.4(D) mm / 5.3(W)× 3.7(H)× 5.9(D)
>> (DP reviews specs)
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>> Like carrying the Oxford Concise Dictionary about.
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> Let's say it's more compact and light than a DSLR with a 28-400 lens.
... but if you need 28 - 400mm, there are even more compact and lighter
cameras.
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 9:00 am
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On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 09:00:02 GMT, David J Taylor wrote:
>> Let's say it's more compact and light than a DSLR with a 28-400 lens.
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> .. but if you need 28 - 400mm, there are even more compact and
> lighter cameras.
If you don't mind their smaller sensors. It looks like an
interesting camera, and in addition, doesn't use those little
cylindrical batteries that you so abhor!  >> Stay informed about: Fuji's DSLR killer |
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 11:29 am
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JimKramer wrote:
> On Jan 24, 1:28 pm, Alfred Molon <alfred_mo....DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
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>>In article <66be55f6-720d-4fab-addf-cf175bc795b3
>>@s19g2000prg.googlegroups.com>, Don Stauffer in Minnesota says...
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>>>Does it have optical TTL viewfinding?
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>>Of course not - how could a non-SLR camera with a 28-400mm lens have an
>>optical viewfinder?
>>--
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>>Alfred Molon
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>>Olympus 50X0, 8080, E3X0, E4X0, E5X0 and E3 forum athttp://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/MyOlympus/http://myolympus.org/photo sharing site
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> Split prism? Partial mirror? One path to the sensor, one path to the
> optical view finder. It is doable, but not an attractive solution,
> the viewfinder would be dim.
The viewfinder on the Olympus E-10 and E-20 seemed to be fine, in those
digicams there is a beamsplitter prism.
It does add to the retail price of the digicam though, as it has two
extra precision ground glass optical elements (beamsplitter and
pentaprism) rather than just simply a miniature LCD (which is what's
inside an EVF).
Considering that Fuji also has a DSLR camera on offering, I wouldn't be
terribly surprised if parts of the Fuji S100FS are built down to a price
(such as a low-res EVF, plastic gear-trains in the focus and zoom
mechanisms, etc) rather than up to a quality (such as a high-res [KM A2
styled 300k pixel] EVF, metal chasis, etc). >> Stay informed about: Fuji's DSLR killer |
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 11:29 am
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On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 11:29:46 +1100, dj_nme <dj_nme RemoveThis @iinet.net.au>
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>JimKramer wrote:
>> On Jan 24, 1:28 pm, Alfred Molon <alfred_mo... RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote:
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>>>In article <66be55f6-720d-4fab-addf-cf175bc795b3
>>>@s19g2000prg.googlegroups.com>, Don Stauffer in Minnesota says...
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>>>>Does it have optical TTL viewfinding?
>>>
>>>Of course not - how could a non-SLR camera with a 28-400mm lens have an
>>>optical viewfinder?
>>>--
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>>>Alfred Molon
>>>------------------------------
>>>Olympus 50X0, 8080, E3X0, E4X0, E5X0 and E3 forum athttp://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/MyOlympus/http://myolympus.org/photo sharing site
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>> Split prism? Partial mirror? One path to the sensor, one path to the
>> optical view finder. It is doable, but not an attractive solution,
>> the viewfinder would be dim.
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>The viewfinder on the Olympus E-10 and E-20 seemed to be fine, in those
>digicams there is a beamsplitter prism.
>It does add to the retail price of the digicam though, as it has two
>extra precision ground glass optical elements (beamsplitter and
>pentaprism) rather than just simply a miniature LCD (which is what's
>inside an EVF).
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>Considering that Fuji also has a DSLR camera on offering, I wouldn't be
>terribly surprised if parts of the Fuji S100FS are built down to a price
>(such as a low-res EVF, plastic gear-trains in the focus and zoom
>mechanisms, etc) rather than up to a quality (such as a high-res [KM A2
>styled 300k pixel] EVF, metal chasis, etc).
Well, they do have to sell their product.
The $40 Casio plastic time piece does all that the $15000 Cartier
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