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BRH

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 11:28 pm
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When visiting my local computer store today, I noticed the Epson
Picturemate photo printer. I don't recall the specific model number,
and it may not even be a new product. (I haven't been keeping up with
th latest and greatest hardware....)

However, I've been considering a dedicated printer for my photos, so I'm
wondering whether anyone here has had any experience with these. I'm
also curious as to whether there are any competing products (perhaps
from HP or Canon). If so, how do they compare?

Any info would be appreciated.

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 1:55 am
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On Sat, 28 Oct 2006 23:28:15 -0400, BRH wrote:

> When visiting my local computer store today, I noticed the Epson
> Picturemate photo printer. I don't recall the specific model number,
> and it may not even be a new product. (I haven't been keeping up with
> th latest and greatest hardware....)
>
> However, I've been considering a dedicated printer for my photos, so I'm
> wondering whether anyone here has had any experience with these. I'm
> also curious as to whether there are any competing products (perhaps
> from HP or Canon). If so, how do they compare?

I don't know how they compare with other brands, but the picture
quality is pretty good, and the print longevity is probably the
greatest available. Of course it depends on how the prints are
stored, but according to some reviews I read when I got mine over a
year ago, they should outlast most print made by local photo labs.
They cost is 26 cents/print (B&H sells Epson's consumables kit for
$26, which includes an ink tank and 100 sheets of 4x6 paper). As
far as I know there are two versions. I think that the older model
has a monochrome display, vs. a popup color LCD on the newer model.
The newer model prints slightly faster.

The Picturemate doesn't require a computer, and is able to do far
more picture editing that what the local labs allow. Most people
don't like overprinting times and dates on their prints, but if you
have the Epson do it, it's much less obtrusive than I've seen other
printers, cameras, and software do it. It's printed using a very
small font, but it's also very fine and legible. When I (and
others) have compared the Epson's print quality with that from local
labs, sometimes the lab does a better job, and sometimes the Epson
does. I'd say that most people I've given prints to where they had
a choice of an Epson or a lab print, chose the Epson's prints about
2/3 of the time.

As I said, I can't compare it with other brands, but in addition
to HP and Canon, there's Kodak, Olympus, Sony and several other
brands available. One, whose name I don't recall (but it may start
with "T") is well regarded, and besides the usual 4x6 printers, also
sells a model that makes 5x7 prints. B&H probably sells most of
these brands, so you could check either their catalog or website to
see what's available, as well as what the current prices are for the
printers and consumables. If I recall correctly, Sony's printers
and supplies are for those that have no shortage of money. Smile

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 10:05 am
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ASAAR wrote:
> On Sat, 28 Oct 2006 23:28:15 -0400, BRH wrote:
>
>
>>When visiting my local computer store today, I noticed the Epson
>>Picturemate photo printer. I don't recall the specific model number,
>>and it may not even be a new product. (I haven't been keeping up with
>>th latest and greatest hardware....)
>>
>>However, I've been considering a dedicated printer for my photos, so I'm
>>wondering whether anyone here has had any experience with these. I'm
>>also curious as to whether there are any competing products (perhaps
>>from HP or Canon). If so, how do they compare?
>
>
> I don't know how they compare with other brands, but the picture
> quality is pretty good, and the print longevity is probably the
> greatest available. Of course it depends on how the prints are
> stored, but according to some reviews I read when I got mine over a
> year ago, they should outlast most print made by local photo labs.
> They cost is 26 cents/print (B&H sells Epson's consumables kit for
> $26, which includes an ink tank and 100 sheets of 4x6 paper). As
> far as I know there are two versions. I think that the older model
> has a monochrome display, vs. a popup color LCD on the newer model.
> The newer model prints slightly faster.
>
> The Picturemate doesn't require a computer, and is able to do far
> more picture editing that what the local labs allow. Most people
> don't like overprinting times and dates on their prints, but if you
> have the Epson do it, it's much less obtrusive than I've seen other
> printers, cameras, and software do it. It's printed using a very
> small font, but it's also very fine and legible. When I (and
> others) have compared the Epson's print quality with that from local
> labs, sometimes the lab does a better job, and sometimes the Epson
> does. I'd say that most people I've given prints to where they had
> a choice of an Epson or a lab print, chose the Epson's prints about
> 2/3 of the time.
>
> As I said, I can't compare it with other brands, but in addition
> to HP and Canon, there's Kodak, Olympus, Sony and several other
> brands available. One, whose name I don't recall (but it may start
> with "T") is well regarded, and besides the usual 4x6 printers, also
> sells a model that makes 5x7 prints. B&H probably sells most of
> these brands, so you could check either their catalog or website to
> see what's available, as well as what the current prices are for the
> printers and consumables. If I recall correctly, Sony's printers
> and supplies are for those that have no shortage of money. Smile
>

Thnaks for your informative reply. It sounds like you're prerry
satisfied with it!
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 12:51 pm
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On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 10:05:00 -0500, BRH wrote:

>> As I said, I can't compare it with other brands, but in addition
>> to HP and Canon, there's Kodak, Olympus, Sony and several other
>> brands available. One, whose name I don't recall (but it may start
>> with "T") is well regarded, and besides the usual 4x6 printers, also
>> sells a model that makes 5x7 prints. B&H probably sells most of
>> these brands, so you could check either their catalog or website to
>> see what's available, as well as what the current prices are for the
>> printers and consumables. If I recall correctly, Sony's printers
>> and supplies are for those that have no shortage of money. Smile
>
> Thnaks for your informative reply. It sounds like you're prerry
> satisfied with it!

You're welcome. Yep, and it continues to perform very well. The
other brand that I couldn't recall the name of is Hi-Ti (High
Touch), and unlike the Epsons, their small format printers are
dye-sub, and range in price from a bit over $100 to nearly $800.
The expensive ones are probably intended for commercial printing,
but they all seem to be ruggedly built.
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 1:06 pm
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On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 10:19:01 -0500, laocmo wrote:

> I have an early PictureMate. It does a beautiful job WHEN it works.
> Unfortunately, it suffers from the common PictureMate problem, "Error 2"
> It does a fabulous job about 5 times out of 10 tries. Then for no
> apparent reason it locks up and refuses to print. I shut it off and
> shake the hell out of it, then it works for about 10 to 20 great prints,
> then freezes again. If you seek it out, there is quite a discussion on
> the net about this problem and people have offered a myriad of
> solutions. Most of which don't work. I think it is a problem inside with
> the mechanics. Hope they solved it with the PictureMate Express and the
> Deluxe Version, I would buy another if it worked reliably. Epson is in
> the middle of a court settlement due to their printers falsely informing
> the user that they are out of ink when such is not the case. I plan to
> use my settlement $$ to buy another PictureMate if the problems have
> been solved.

I've never heard of any PictureMate problems, but don't dispute
that you may be having a problem with yours. The court case you
mentioned can't have anything to do with the PictureMates, since
they're only supposed to be good for 100 prints per cartridge, but
I've had to buy some extra 4x6 sheets, since I get a little more
than 100 prints per cartridge. I've never had any problem other
that what I expected. When I haven't used the printer for a long
time, such as 8 months, I've found that usually one color doesn't
print. But it takes only one quick cycle (about a minute or two)
cleaning the print heads to get it working again. Considering
Epson's reputation for clogging print heads, this is a much better
experience than I've had with my HP printers (8"x10", not 4"x6").

If you get another PictureMate I doubt that you'll have any
problems with it. But if you buy it from the right dealer and test
it quickly, say within the usual store refund period, you'll see
whether you got a lemon or not. I've printed many hundreds of
prints and haven't had a single failure. I think that mine is the
Deluxe version, and never heard of an Express version. I've only
seen an older PictureMate that has monochrome LCD that I don't think
pops up, as the color LCD does on mine.
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 9:22 pm
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"laocmo" <laocmo RemoveThis @copper.net> wrote in message
news:45449436$1_4@newsfeed.slurp.net...
>I have an early PictureMate. It does a beautiful job WHEN it works.
>Unfortunately, it suffers from the common PictureMate problem, "Error 2"
> It does a fabulous job about 5 times out of 10 tries. Then for no apparent
> reason it locks up and refuses to print. I shut it off and shake the hell
> out of it, then it works for about 10 to 20 great prints, then freezes
> again. If you seek it out, there is quite a discussion on the net about
> this problem and people have offered a myriad of solutions. Most of which
> don't work. I think it is a problem inside with the mechanics. Hope they
> solved it with the PictureMate Express and the Deluxe Version, I would buy
> another if it worked reliably. Epson is in the middle of a court
> settlement due to their printers falsely informing the user that they are
> out of ink when such is not the case. I plan to use my settlement $$ to
> buy another PictureMate if the problems have been solved.

I've never had any such problems with mine, I've had it now for several
months and have run dozens of prints through it.

Mark
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 3:55 pm
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Well, you shake anything long enough and it won't work flawlessly either.

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"Mark B." <mbohntrash54.TakeThisOut@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> "laocmo" <laocmo.TakeThisOut@copper.net> wrote in message
> news:45449436$1_4@newsfeed.slurp.net...
>>I have an early PictureMate. It does a beautiful job WHEN it works.
>>Unfortunately, it suffers from the common PictureMate problem, "Error 2"
>> It does a fabulous job about 5 times out of 10 tries. Then for no
>> apparent reason it locks up and refuses to print. I shut it off and shake
>> the hell out of it, then it works for about 10 to 20 great prints, then
>> freezes again. If you seek it out, there is quite a discussion on the net
>> about this problem and people have offered a myriad of solutions. Most of
>> which don't work. I think it is a problem inside with the mechanics. Hope
>> they solved it with the PictureMate Express and the Deluxe Version, I
>> would buy another if it worked reliably. Epson is in the middle of a
>> court settlement due to their printers falsely informing the user that
>> they are out of ink when such is not the case. I plan to use my
>> settlement $$ to buy another PictureMate if the problems have been
>> solved.
>
> I've never had any such problems with mine, I've had it now for several
> months and have run dozens of prints through it.
>
> Mark
>
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 7:36 pm
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On Tue, 31 Oct 2006 18:49:49 -0500, BRH wrote:

>> optional internal Li-Ion battery for field use. Is there really a
>> portable Picturemate 4"x6" printer that burns CDs and DVDs? That
>> doesn't sound very appealing. I'd rather have an individual printer
>> and DVD burner than a combined model. For that matter, a portable
>> DVD burner makes much less sense these days than a smaller, more
>> portable disk vault, especially one that can also display images.
>
> I read somewhere that a model with built-in DVD (or CD?) burner will be
> on the market in a few weeks. Supposedly, it will be available only at
> Best Buy.

The main reason why I'd find it unappealing is that while I'd
probably appreciate the ability to backup pictures to CD or DVD in
the field, I wouldn't want to have to bring along a printer to do
it. Even a small portable printer adds too much weight. I also
haven't bought a battery for my Picturemate. Any place I print
pictures from, even if it's not at home, will have an AC outlet. Smile
On the other hand, if the printer has a better picture browser than
current Picturemates, being able to select pictures to print from a
CD or DVD instead of a flash card might be useful. The current
picture browser makes selections much more of a chore than it could
be, and I wouldn't want to use it to make selections from a half
full CD, let alone a DVD.
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 10:54 am
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ASAAR wrote:
> On Tue, 31 Oct 2006 18:49:49 -0500, BRH wrote:
>
>
>>>optional internal Li-Ion battery for field use. Is there really a
>>>portable Picturemate 4"x6" printer that burns CDs and DVDs? That
>>>doesn't sound very appealing. I'd rather have an individual printer
>>>and DVD burner than a combined model. For that matter, a portable
>>>DVD burner makes much less sense these days than a smaller, more
>>>portable disk vault, especially one that can also display images.
>>
>>I read somewhere that a model with built-in DVD (or CD?) burner will be
>>on the market in a few weeks. Supposedly, it will be available only at
>>Best Buy.
>
>
> The main reason why I'd find it unappealing is that while I'd
> probably appreciate the ability to backup pictures to CD or DVD in
> the field, I wouldn't want to have to bring along a printer to do
> it. Even a small portable printer adds too much weight. I also
> haven't bought a battery for my Picturemate. Any place I print
> pictures from, even if it's not at home, will have an AC outlet. Smile
> On the other hand, if the printer has a better picture browser than
> current Picturemates, being able to select pictures to print from a
> CD or DVD instead of a flash card might be useful. The current
> picture browser makes selections much more of a chore than it could
> be, and I wouldn't want to use it to make selections from a half
> full CD, let alone a DVD.
>

I agree with that assessment. Having had my Picturemate Deluxe Viewer
Edition now for (only) two days, I find that the selection procedure for
picking a single photo to print off of a 1 Gig SD card is rather
tedious. That's my only complaint about the Picturemate, though. Other
than that I'm pretty impressed with it.
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