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(Msg. 31) Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 7:53 pm
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Oops, I meant 3800, not 3880.

And yes, I did mean a 4880 to replace the 3800.

Sorry about the typos.




"John Smith" <JohnSmith RemoveThis @aol.com> wrote in message
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> Thanks much.
>
> Based on discussions with Samys Camera and Epson, along with the feedback
> from here, I've already got commitment from Epson to send me a check next
> week for a 100% refund for the 3880 and I'm going to pick up a new Epson
> 4880 next week from Samys.
>
> Thanks to all who replied. Epson and Samys have been SUPERB throughout
> this frustrating process. I'd highly recommend them.
>
>
>
>
> "measekite" <inkystinky RemoveThis @oem.com> wrote in message
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>>
>>
>> John Smith wrote:
>>> Urgent: I need feedback ASAP from other Epson 3800 owners.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Feb 19, 2008, I bought a new Epson 3800 from Samys Camera of Los
>>> Angeles. I set it up, made a single gorgeous 8x10 test print, and
>>> everything seemed fine - for a while. I left the country and didn't use
>>> the printer again for nearly 5 weeks. That's when the trouble started.
>>>
>>> I returned from my trip about 6 weeks after I bought it, tried to print
>>> again, and all it would print was clean white pages, not a single drop
>>> of ink came out. Of course, the brand new Epson inkjet cartridges were
>>> still in the printer for the past 6 weeks. I powered it off, rebooted
>>> my PC, made sure all of the techie stuff was OK (I have 30 years of
>>> hands on IT experience, so I know I covered those techie bases right.)
>>>
>>> Then all of the sudden the 3800 stopped even feeding blank pages though
>>> when trying to print, and started displaying a message on the LCD panel
>>> something like "Serious error - call Epson technical support".
>>>
>>> So I did, and Epson determined the printer was defective, and agreed to
>>> send me a NEW 3800 to replace it. I insisted on a new unit, not a
>>> refurbished unit - which is their standard policy if it's more than 30
>>> days from the date of purchase.
>>>
>>> About 5 days later I received a box from Epson with 3800 Number 2 in it,
>>> and yes, they screwed up and sent me a refurbished unit. Back on the
>>> phone with Epson and they agreed to replace it again.
>>>
>>> Two days ago, I receive 3800 Number 3, and I check it very carefully.
>>> Yes, it IS a brand new printer with all of the manuals, inkjet
>>> cartridges, and software CD inside that come with a new printer.
>>>
>>> Today I hooked it up, and bingo, 3800 Number 3 fails immediately. Once
>>> again, it will not print ANYTHING in spite of the print heads going back
>>> and forth and it's SOUNDING like its printing but nothing comes out
>>> other than a completely blank piece of paper.
>>>
>>> (Before anyone suggests their might be something wrong with my PC's
>>> basic ability to print, I print fine all the time to a HP LaserJet
>>> sitting right next to the 3800.)
>>>
>>> So I called Epson again; they have offered to replace it a 4th time or
>>> give me a full refund. Samys Camera (what a WONDERFUL store to deal
>>> with!) offered to do the same.
>>>
>>> HERE'S MY QUESTION: Are these 3800s fundamentally problematic? Should I
>>> replace it and upgrade to a 4800? Or go back down to a 2400 which I
>>> owned before the 3800?
>>>
>>> I'd GREATLY appreciate any feedback that any experienced Epson 3800
>>> users may have. Other flamers need not reply.
>>>
>>> TIA ----
>>>
>> A friend of mine bought an Epson 3800 and claims he had no problems.
>> What you are writing scares me form looking at Epson. You might want to
>> consider the Canon 5100 17" wide printer. The reviews have been very
>> good but it is a few hundred more than the Epson.
>>>
>>>
>
>

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(Msg. 32) Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 8:08 pm
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<pre wrap="">~From your long winded explanation I would say in all honesty, You should
take the refund. There is nothing intrinsically wrong with these
printers.
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<pre wrap="">That's not true. There is a problem with all Epson inkjet printers.

I know, I own one.

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<pre wrap=""><!---->I hope that you can see the fallacy of your own statement at this point.


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<pre wrap="">The problem is ink drying out. Basically, of you don't print at least
one small print every day unless the humidity is 100%, soon the
heads will dry out and it will cost you a bundle of ink to get them
working again.

If you live in Vancouver you may never notice this. But if there are
dry seasons where you live, you will.

However, my $100 printer is otherwise reliable and generates
beautiful prints up to 8 1/2 x 44 inches.

Doug McDonald
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I have, currently, two Epsons, a sub $100 R200 that I use mainly for CD's
and a $2,000+ 4800 Pro. They are not the same and are hardly even
comparable to one another other than that they are both inkjets. I've had
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That is a dye based printer<br>
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<pre wrap=""> the 4800 at least monthly.
The R200 can sit for a month and be fine the 4800 needs to be used at least
weekly.
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that is a pigment based printer.  <br>
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To the OP: You've gotten some good tips, unfortunately if you've been
trying to print with a dry printhead then the printhead is probably fried.
Jim


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Most of the respondents are not taking into consideration the the user
has tried 3 printers and none would work properly.  It has nothing to
do with clogged heads.  I think it is a computer problem.  The Canon
IPF5100 will probably work since there are not driver conflicts.<br>
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(Msg. 33) Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 8:13 pm
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Henk & Marga Jamin wrote:
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<pre wrap="">John,

I have printed on Epson printers since the venerableStylus 800. The only
problem I have had
with these is that after a couple of weeks of no printing, the heads need to be
cleaned...
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that is one of the reasons I like Canon better.  The other is that the
prints appear to be of higher quality.<br>
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<pre wrap="">Currently have an Photo 820 and an R300. Use them on ME/Win98 and XP prof.
Never a
blank page, never smearing.
I am up in Montreal with RH ranging from 30% in winter, 90% in summer.

John Smith wrote:

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had me do. Nothing came out. A blank page again...

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<pre wrap="">HERE'S MY QUESTION: Are these 3800s fundamentally problematic? Should I
replace it and upgrade to a 4800? Or go back down to a 2400 which I
owned before the 3800?

I'd GREATLY appreciate any feedback that any experienced Epson 3800 users
may have. Other flamers need not reply.
</pre>
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<pre wrap="">
I use a 3800 but I'm Mac based and therefore any of the issues concerning
the byzantine workings of Windows install/registry/deinstall issues mean
little to me. My own 3800 is networked and runs off my Wireless
router/hub, and is therefore available to all machines on our network,
including PC. It appears to run perfectly. I have encountered one problem
with blobs of ink, Epson knew the problem and talked me through a reset
and head clean process which solved it. I often do not print for 1-2
months and every time the first print is perfect, unlike other Epsons I
have owned.

The 3800 is used by several hundred readers of Master Photographer. It's
probably the industry standard printer for portrait studios. The new
Gemini IV system from Epson is based on two 3800s. I've never heard of a
single case like yours, and there are no technical issues about the 3800
to be found in the forum for the professional group involved.

I think you have perhaps been giving Epson a lot of hassle for a problem
which is not related to their printer, but to your system.

Have you tried the simplest of procedures - the machine's own test print
pattern? If it will print this, and communicate with the Epson Printer
Utility properly, you can begin to investigate driver setup and
connectivity.

David

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Paul Furman wrote:
> John Smith wrote:
>>
>> On Feb 19, 2008, I bought a new Epson 3800 from Samys Camera of Los
>> Angeles. I set it up, made a single gorgeous 8x10 test print, and
>> everything seemed fine - for a while. I left the country and didn't
>> use the printer again for nearly 5 weeks. That's when the trouble
>> started.
>>
>> I returned from my trip about 6 weeks after I bought it, tried to
>> print again, and all it would print was clean white pages,
>
> You left it on? Supposedly the newer Epsons are better but the long time
> problem was the heads drying out from dis-use. I only turn on my R1800
> when I need it and have not had a problem. The sound of draining ink
> cartridges is painful when I turn it on but oh well.

I leave my R1800 on (it's been on 24/7 for three years now - apart from
occasions when I've been away for more than a few days).
I've never needed to run a cleaning cycle, and it's never missed a beat.

A tip with all of these Epson printers is to check occasionally to make
sure there's no ink build-up, paper shards, or dust on the seal in the
print head parking station.

The reason that we've had the same (or similar) experience is that the
head is parked in exactly the same position whether the printer is on
and idle, or off. I suspect that the myths originate from unfortunates,
who have pulled the mains plug on Epson printers when they are not idle
- perhaps just getting forty winks while in the midst of doing
something. That's bad - guaranteed to cause major problems.

Anyway, I think leaving it on uses (wastes) less ink. It seems to
decide to do a self-maintenance cycle when it's powered on, but only at
intervals when it's left on - at the start of a print job about once a week.

The volume of ink used/wasted in the cleaning cycle is a fixed quantity
- IIRC about 1ml. Repeated manual cleaning cycles ramp up from that,
something like 3ml for level 2, and 7ml for level 3. There's a 7 minute
stand down between cleaning cycles, so the cleaning level only ramps up
if doing repeated clean cycled within a 7 minute period. If you want
it, I've got the exact figures (from Epson R1800/2400 service manual)
somewhere.
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I have the 3800 and use it with and without the RIP. It is perfect in
every regard. No problems at all. Sorry you're having trouble.

"John Smith" <JohnSmith.DeleteThis@aol.com> wrote in
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> Urgent: I need feedback ASAP from other Epson 3800 owners.
>
>
> On Feb 19, 2008, I bought a new Epson 3800 from Samys Camera <snip>
>
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user RemoveThis @domain.invalid wrote in news:fua4uc$mj7$1@news.acm.uiuc.edu:

<snip>
There is a problem with all Epson inkjet printers. The problem is ink
drying out.
</snip>

Epson advise us (in writing in the fine manual) to power the printers off
when they are not in use. The power off cycle covers the heads to reduce
the risk of drying out. I have followed this practice and have not
experienced drying out on my 3800. On my 9800 I print test strips before I
print anything for a client. As far as I can tell, it has not had any
drying out issues, either.
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Ray Paseur wrote:
> user RemoveThis @domain.invalid wrote in news:fua4uc$mj7$1@news.acm.uiuc.edu:
>
> <snip>
> There is a problem with all Epson inkjet printers. The problem is ink
> drying out.
> </snip>
>
> Epson advise us (in writing in the fine manual) to power the printers off
> when they are not in use.
The question is do they do that because it is necessary to because the
get to sell you more ink?
> The power off cycle covers the heads to reduce
> the risk of drying out. I have followed this practice and have not
> experienced drying out on my 3800. On my 9800 I print test strips before I
> print anything for a client. As far as I can tell, it has not had any
> drying out issues, either.
>
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Ray Paseur wrote:
> user.RemoveThis@domain.invalid wrote in news:fua4uc$mj7$1@news.acm.uiuc.edu:
>
> <snip>
> There is a problem with all Epson inkjet printers. The problem is ink
> drying out.
> </snip>
>
> Epson advise us (in writing in the fine manual) to power the printers off
> when they are not in use. The power off cycle covers the heads to reduce
> the risk of drying out. I have followed this practice and have not
> experienced drying out on my 3800. On my 9800 I print test strips before I
> print anything for a client. As far as I can tell, it has not had any
> drying out issues, either.

Was that for the 3800 (my fine manual is under a pile somewhere) or a
previous Epson manual? I was under the impression that even the official
advice might have changed for later models. (And that the print heads
got parked the same way regardless.)

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John Smith wrote:
>
> > John Smith wrote:
> >>> John Smith wrote:
> >>> Urgent: I need feedback ASAP from other Epson 3800 owners.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Feb 19, 2008, I bought a new Epson 3800 from Samys Camera of Los
> >>> Angeles. I set it up, made a single gorgeous 8x10 test print, and
> >>> everything seemed fine - for a while. I left the country and didn't use
> >>> the printer again for nearly 5 weeks. That's when the trouble started.
> >>>
> >>> I returned from my trip about 6 weeks after I bought it, tried to print
> >>> again, and all it would print was clean white pages, not a single drop
> >>> of ink came out. Of course, the brand new Epson inkjet cartridges were
> >>> still in the printer for the past 6 weeks. I powered it off, rebooted
> >>> my PC, made sure all of the techie stuff was OK (I have 30 years of
> >>> hands on IT experience, so I know I covered those techie bases right.)
> >>>
> >>> Then all of the sudden the 3800 stopped even feeding blank pages though
> >>> when trying to print, and started displaying a message on the LCD panel
> >>> something like "Serious error - call Epson technical support".

<edited for brevity>

> > Based on discussions with Samys Camera and Epson, along with the feedback
> > from here, I've already got commitment from Epson to send me a check next
> > week for a 100% refund for the 3880 and I'm going to pick up a new Epson
> > 4880 next week from Samys.
> >
> > Thanks to all who replied. Epson and Samys have been SUPERB throughout
> > this frustrating process. I'd highly recommend them.
>
>
> Oops, I meant 3800, not 3880.
>
> And yes, I did mean a 4880 to replace the 3800.
>
> Sorry about the typos.


Hello, John:

Okay, you're forgiven. Wink

Joking aside, whenever such an error message appears on a printer's own
LCD panel, it's a rather safe bet that the problem is internal to the
device, itself. No amount of fiddling with drivers (or Windows settings,
etc.,) will accomplish anything constructive, therefore.

Myself, I finally gave up, on an Epson Stylus Photo 825 and replaced it
with a Hewlett-Packard Photosmart D7160, a little over a year ago. The
825 was often plagued by serious clogs, with the first one happening,
only a few months after purchase.

Conversely, the D7160 is still sailing along, nicely, on its bundled ink
cartridges. It never gives me any trouble, and my usage patterns haven't
changed, either (i.e., I don't print a lot of stuff).

Good luck!


Cordially,
John Turco <jtur RemoveThis @concentric.net>
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Thanks John. I appreciate the feedback.


"John Turco" <jtur.RemoveThis@concentric.net> wrote in message
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> John Smith wrote:
>>
>> > John Smith wrote:
>> >>> John Smith wrote:
>> >>> Urgent: I need feedback ASAP from other Epson 3800 owners.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Feb 19, 2008, I bought a new Epson 3800 from Samys Camera of Los
>> >>> Angeles. I set it up, made a single gorgeous 8x10 test print, and
>> >>> everything seemed fine - for a while. I left the country and didn't
>> >>> use
>> >>> the printer again for nearly 5 weeks. That's when the trouble
>> >>> started.
>> >>>
>> >>> I returned from my trip about 6 weeks after I bought it, tried to
>> >>> print
>> >>> again, and all it would print was clean white pages, not a single
>> >>> drop
>> >>> of ink came out. Of course, the brand new Epson inkjet cartridges
>> >>> were
>> >>> still in the printer for the past 6 weeks. I powered it off,
>> >>> rebooted
>> >>> my PC, made sure all of the techie stuff was OK (I have 30 years of
>> >>> hands on IT experience, so I know I covered those techie bases
>> >>> right.)
>> >>>
>> >>> Then all of the sudden the 3800 stopped even feeding blank pages
>> >>> though
>> >>> when trying to print, and started displaying a message on the LCD
>> >>> panel
>> >>> something like "Serious error - call Epson technical support".
>
> <edited for brevity>
>
>> > Based on discussions with Samys Camera and Epson, along with the
>> > feedback
>> > from here, I've already got commitment from Epson to send me a check
>> > next
>> > week for a 100% refund for the 3880 and I'm going to pick up a new
>> > Epson
>> > 4880 next week from Samys.
>> >
>> > Thanks to all who replied. Epson and Samys have been SUPERB throughout
>> > this frustrating process. I'd highly recommend them.
>>
>>
>> Oops, I meant 3800, not 3880.
>>
>> And yes, I did mean a 4880 to replace the 3800.
>>
>> Sorry about the typos.
>
>
> Hello, John:
>
> Okay, you're forgiven. Wink
>
> Joking aside, whenever such an error message appears on a printer's own
> LCD panel, it's a rather safe bet that the problem is internal to the
> device, itself. No amount of fiddling with drivers (or Windows settings,
> etc.,) will accomplish anything constructive, therefore.
>
> Myself, I finally gave up, on an Epson Stylus Photo 825 and replaced it
> with a Hewlett-Packard Photosmart D7160, a little over a year ago. The
> 825 was often plagued by serious clogs, with the first one happening,
> only a few months after purchase.
>
> Conversely, the D7160 is still sailing along, nicely, on its bundled ink
> cartridges. It never gives me any trouble, and my usage patterns haven't
> changed, either (i.e., I don't print a lot of stuff).
>
> Good luck!
>
>
> Cordially,
> John Turco <jtur.RemoveThis@concentric.net>
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>>>>> John Smith writes:

Urgent> I need feedback ASAP from other Epson 3800 owners.
John> On Feb 19, 2008, I bought a new Epson 3800 from Samys Camera of Los Angeles.
John> I set it up, made a single gorgeous 8x10 test print, and everything seemed
John> fine - for a while. I left the country and didn't use the printer again for
John> nearly 5 weeks. That's when the trouble started.

John> I returned from my trip about 6 weeks after I bought it, tried to print
John> again, and all it would print was clean white pages, not a single drop of
John> ink came out. Of course, the brand new Epson inkjet cartridges were still
John> in the printer for the past 6 weeks. I powered it off, rebooted my PC, made
John> sure all of the techie stuff was OK (I have 30 years of hands on IT
John> experience, so I know I covered those techie bases right.)

John> Then all of the sudden the 3800 stopped even feeding blank pages though when
John> trying to print, and started displaying a message on the LCD panel something
John> like "Serious error - call Epson technical support".

John> So I did, and Epson determined the printer was defective, and agreed to send
John> me a NEW 3800 to replace it. I insisted on a new unit, not a refurbished
John> unit - which is their standard policy if it's more than 30 days from the
John> date of purchase.

John> About 5 days later I received a box from Epson with 3800 Number 2 in it, and
John> yes, they screwed up and sent me a refurbished unit. Back on the phone with
John> Epson and they agreed to replace it again.

John> Two days ago, I receive 3800 Number 3, and I check it very carefully. Yes,
John> it IS a brand new printer with all of the manuals, inkjet cartridges, and
John> software CD inside that come with a new printer.

John> Today I hooked it up, and bingo, 3800 Number 3 fails immediately. Once
John> again, it will not print ANYTHING in spite of the print heads going back and
John> forth and it's SOUNDING like its printing but nothing comes out other than a
John> completely blank piece of paper.

John> (Before anyone suggests their might be something wrong with my PC's basic
John> ability to print, I print fine all the time to a HP LaserJet sitting right
John> next to the 3800.)

John> So I called Epson again; they have offered to replace it a 4th time or give
John> me a full refund. Samys Camera (what a WONDERFUL store to deal with!)
John> offered to do the same.

John> HERE'S MY QUESTION: Are these 3800s fundamentally problematic? Should I
John> replace it and upgrade to a 4800? Or go back down to a 2400 which I owned
John> before the 3800?

John> I'd GREATLY appreciate any feedback that any experienced Epson 3800 users
John> may have. Other flamers need not reply.

I have had mine for 14 months or so, with no problems.

I have had other hardware that just refused to work on certain XP machines, and worked
find on others. I suspected driver conflicts, but had no way to diagnose it. Perhaps
there is some odd conflict with something on your computer.



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(Msg. 42) Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 11:31 am
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On Apr 18, 8:36 am, u....TakeThisOut@domain.invalid wrote:
> Alienjones wrote:
>
> > ~From your long winded explanation I would say in all honesty, You should
> > take the refund. There is nothing intrinsically wrong with these
> > printers.
>
> That's not true. There is a problem with all Epson inkjet printers.
>
> I know, I own one.
>
> The problem is ink drying out. Basically, of you don't print at least
> one small print every day unless the humidity is 100%, soon the
> heads will dry out and it will cost you a bundle of ink to get them
> working again.
>
> If you live in Vancouver you may never notice this. But if there are
> dry seasons where you live, you will.
>
> However, my $100 printer is otherwise reliable and generates
> beautiful prints up to 8 1/2 x 44 inches.
>
> Doug McDonald

I have two older Epsons -- a Color 980 and a Photo 780.

They work just fine under Windows *and* Linux, and their cartridges
are easily refillable with cheap generic refill kits. The only real
issue with them is that you have to use glossy photo paper.

The heads get clogged up but that's generally not a big problem
because the refill kits ship with a bottle of cleaning fluid. All you
do is create two "cleaning" cartridges for each printer and you won't
waste a lot of time and ink.

Other than that I am not inclined not spend a lot of money on a newer
inkjet. If I want quality I can always take my JPEGs to a photo lab
and get much better prints for less than the cost of the ink and paper
for any of the newer inkjets.
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(Msg. 43) Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 4:01 pm
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amer2828.RemoveThis@verizon.net wrote in
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I've got a 2400, a 3800 and a 9800. All work perfectly. The 3800 and 9800
are in environmentally unfriendly conditions (fluctuating temperature and
humidity) but as long as the paper is usable, they print without any
problems. I have never used anything but Epson ink and Epson paper and
Epson profiles. The 3800 and 9800 are used exclusively for Lustre prints.
The 2400 does all kinds. As a matter of policy, we power the printers off
every night. Other than an occasional head cleaning, they are up 100% of
the time, maintenance free. I cannot remember where we bought the big
printers; the 2400 came from B&H.

Ray

> On Apr 18, 1:10 am, "John Smith" <JohnSm....RemoveThis@aol.com> wrote:
>> Urgent: I need feedback ASAP from other Epson 3800 owners.
>>
>> On Feb 19, 2008, I bought a new Epson 3800 from Samys Camera

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(Msg. 44) Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 7:15 am
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Ray Paseur wrote:
> amer2828.RemoveThis@verizon.net wrote in
> news:df04f4f3-39ed-4bce-881d-8bb94b964c93@m3g2000hsc.googlegroups.com:
>
> I've got a 2400, a 3800 and a 9800. All work perfectly. The 3800 and 9800
> are in environmentally unfriendly conditions (fluctuating temperature and
> humidity) but as long as the paper is usable, they print without any
> problems. I have never used anything but Epson ink and Epson paper and
> Epson profiles. The 3800 and 9800 are used exclusively for Lustre prints.
> The 2400 does all kinds. As a matter of policy, we power the printers off
> every night. Other than an occasional head cleaning, they are up 100% of
> the time, maintenance free. I cannot remember where we bought the big
> printers; the 2400 came from B&H.
>
> Ray
>
>> On Apr 18, 1:10 am, "John Smith" <JohnSm....RemoveThis@aol.com> wrote:
>>> Urgent: I need feedback ASAP from other Epson 3800 owners.
>>>
>>> On Feb 19, 2008, I bought a new Epson 3800 from Samys Camera
>
> <snip>

One wonders if "john smith" and his "correspondent" are one and the
same....and what causes the grindstone to spin.

My 3800 goes along fine. Curious, tho: why power down each day? Doesn't
it cause more cleaning/purging heads?

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John McWilliams <jpmcw DeleteThis @comcast.net> wrote in
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> Ray Paseur wrote:
>> amer2828 DeleteThis @verizon.net wrote in
>> news:df04f4f3-39ed-4bce-881d-8bb94b964c93
@m3g2000hsc.googlegroups.com:
>>
>> I've got a 2400, a 3800 and a 9800. All work perfectly. The 3800
>> and 9800 are in environmentally unfriendly conditions (fluctuating
>> temperature and humidity) but as long as the paper is usable, they
>> print without any problems. I have never used anything but Epson ink
>> and Epson paper and Epson profiles. The 3800 and 9800 are used
>> exclusively for Lustre prints. The 2400 does all kinds. As a matter
>> of policy, we power the printers off every night. Other than an
>> occasional head cleaning, they are up 100% of the time, maintenance
>> free. I cannot remember where we bought the big printers; the 2400
>> came from B&H.
>>
>> Ray
>>
>>> On Apr 18, 1:10 am, "John Smith" <JohnSm... DeleteThis @aol.com> wrote:
>>>> Urgent: I need feedback ASAP from other Epson 3800 owners.
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 19, 2008, I bought a new Epson 3800 from Samys Camera
>>
>> <snip>
>
> One wonders if "john smith" and his "correspondent" are one and the
> same....and what causes the grindstone to spin.
>
> My 3800 goes along fine. Curious, tho: why power down each day?
> Doesn't it cause more cleaning/purging heads?
>

Hi, John. We power off because an Epson rep told me that the power-off
cycle parks the heads in a way that helps prevent ink drying out. Seems
reasonable. It may do more cleaning/purging but I have no way to
compare since we have "always done it this way" Wink
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