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(Msg. 1) Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 10:10 pm
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Urgent: I need feedback ASAP from other Epson 3800 owners.
On Feb 19, 2008, I bought a new Epson 3800 from Samys Camera of Los Angeles.
I set it up, made a single gorgeous 8x10 test print, and everything seemed
fine - for a while. I left the country and didn't use the printer again for
nearly 5 weeks. That's when the trouble started.
I returned from my trip about 6 weeks after I bought it, tried to print
again, and all it would print was clean white pages, not a single drop of
ink came out. Of course, the brand new Epson inkjet cartridges were still
in the printer for the past 6 weeks. I powered it off, rebooted my PC, made
sure all of the techie stuff was OK (I have 30 years of hands on IT
experience, so I know I covered those techie bases right.)
Then all of the sudden the 3800 stopped even feeding blank pages though when
trying to print, and started displaying a message on the LCD panel something
like "Serious error - call Epson technical support".
So I did, and Epson determined the printer was defective, and agreed to send
me a NEW 3800 to replace it. I insisted on a new unit, not a refurbished
unit - which is their standard policy if it's more than 30 days from the
date of purchase.
About 5 days later I received a box from Epson with 3800 Number 2 in it, and
yes, they screwed up and sent me a refurbished unit. Back on the phone with
Epson and they agreed to replace it again.
Two days ago, I receive 3800 Number 3, and I check it very carefully. Yes,
it IS a brand new printer with all of the manuals, inkjet cartridges, and
software CD inside that come with a new printer.
Today I hooked it up, and bingo, 3800 Number 3 fails immediately. Once
again, it will not print ANYTHING in spite of the print heads going back and
forth and it's SOUNDING like its printing but nothing comes out other than a
completely blank piece of paper.
(Before anyone suggests their might be something wrong with my PC's basic
ability to print, I print fine all the time to a HP LaserJet sitting right
next to the 3800.)
So I called Epson again; they have offered to replace it a 4th time or give
me a full refund. Samys Camera (what a WONDERFUL store to deal with!)
offered to do the same.
HERE'S MY QUESTION: Are these 3800s fundamentally problematic? Should I
replace it and upgrade to a 4800? Or go back down to a 2400 which I owned
before the 3800?
I'd GREATLY appreciate any feedback that any experienced Epson 3800 users
may have. Other flamers need not reply.
TIA ---- >> Stay informed about: Epson 3800 - URGENT |
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 10:51 pm
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In article <L3WNj.8448$xd5.7494@newsfe17.phx>,
"John Smith" <JohnSmith.RemoveThis@aol.com> wrote:
> Urgent: I need feedback ASAP from other Epson 3800 owners.
>
>
> On Feb 19, 2008, I bought a new Epson 3800 from Samys Camera of Los Angeles.
> I set it up, made a single gorgeous 8x10 test print, and everything seemed
> fine - for a while. I left the country and didn't use the printer again for
> nearly 5 weeks. That's when the trouble started.
>
> I returned from my trip about 6 weeks after I bought it, tried to print
> again, and all it would print was clean white pages, not a single drop of
> ink came out. Of course, the brand new Epson inkjet cartridges were still
> in the printer for the past 6 weeks. I powered it off, rebooted my PC, made
> sure all of the techie stuff was OK (I have 30 years of hands on IT
> experience, so I know I covered those techie bases right.)
>
> Then all of the sudden the 3800 stopped even feeding blank pages though when
> trying to print, and started displaying a message on the LCD panel something
> like "Serious error - call Epson technical support".
>
> So I did, and Epson determined the printer was defective, and agreed to send
> me a NEW 3800 to replace it. I insisted on a new unit, not a refurbished
> unit - which is their standard policy if it's more than 30 days from the
> date of purchase.
>
> About 5 days later I received a box from Epson with 3800 Number 2 in it, and
> yes, they screwed up and sent me a refurbished unit. Back on the phone with
> Epson and they agreed to replace it again.
>
> Two days ago, I receive 3800 Number 3, and I check it very carefully. Yes,
> it IS a brand new printer with all of the manuals, inkjet cartridges, and
> software CD inside that come with a new printer.
>
> Today I hooked it up, and bingo, 3800 Number 3 fails immediately. Once
> again, it will not print ANYTHING in spite of the print heads going back and
> forth and it's SOUNDING like its printing but nothing comes out other than a
> completely blank piece of paper.
>
> (Before anyone suggests their might be something wrong with my PC's basic
> ability to print, I print fine all the time to a HP LaserJet sitting right
> next to the 3800.)
>
> So I called Epson again; they have offered to replace it a 4th time or give
> me a full refund. Samys Camera (what a WONDERFUL store to deal with!)
> offered to do the same.
>
> HERE'S MY QUESTION: Are these 3800s fundamentally problematic? Should I
> replace it and upgrade to a 4800? Or go back down to a 2400 which I owned
> before the 3800?
>
> I'd GREATLY appreciate any feedback that any experienced Epson 3800 users
> may have. Other flamers need not reply.
>
> TIA ----
You'll probably see the largest number of "works for me" and "never
works for me" comments about the Epsons. There's something about their
print mechanisms that is sensitive to environmental factors. I fall
into the case of "never works for me" for a 2200 that I had. After a
few months of working well enough, a film of ink kept forming over the
print head. The printing would fade out then drops of ink would smear
all over the paper. I'd be lucky to get a 13x19 print completed before
it went bad.
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 11:03 pm
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Sensitive, like being next to too much heat from the light coming in from a
window? Or like being next to a draft?
"Kevin McMurtrie" <mcmurtri RemoveThis @dslextreme.com> wrote in message
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> In article <L3WNj.8448$xd5.7494@newsfe17.phx>,
> "John Smith" <JohnSmith RemoveThis @aol.com> wrote:
>
>> Urgent: I need feedback ASAP from other Epson 3800 owners.
>>
>>
>> On Feb 19, 2008, I bought a new Epson 3800 from Samys Camera of Los
>> Angeles.
>> I set it up, made a single gorgeous 8x10 test print, and everything
>> seemed
>> fine - for a while. I left the country and didn't use the printer again
>> for
>> nearly 5 weeks. That's when the trouble started.
>>
>> I returned from my trip about 6 weeks after I bought it, tried to print
>> again, and all it would print was clean white pages, not a single drop of
>> ink came out. Of course, the brand new Epson inkjet cartridges were
>> still
>> in the printer for the past 6 weeks. I powered it off, rebooted my PC,
>> made
>> sure all of the techie stuff was OK (I have 30 years of hands on IT
>> experience, so I know I covered those techie bases right.)
>>
>> Then all of the sudden the 3800 stopped even feeding blank pages though
>> when
>> trying to print, and started displaying a message on the LCD panel
>> something
>> like "Serious error - call Epson technical support".
>>
>> So I did, and Epson determined the printer was defective, and agreed to
>> send
>> me a NEW 3800 to replace it. I insisted on a new unit, not a refurbished
>> unit - which is their standard policy if it's more than 30 days from the
>> date of purchase.
>>
>> About 5 days later I received a box from Epson with 3800 Number 2 in it,
>> and
>> yes, they screwed up and sent me a refurbished unit. Back on the phone
>> with
>> Epson and they agreed to replace it again.
>>
>> Two days ago, I receive 3800 Number 3, and I check it very carefully.
>> Yes,
>> it IS a brand new printer with all of the manuals, inkjet cartridges,
>> and
>> software CD inside that come with a new printer.
>>
>> Today I hooked it up, and bingo, 3800 Number 3 fails immediately. Once
>> again, it will not print ANYTHING in spite of the print heads going back
>> and
>> forth and it's SOUNDING like its printing but nothing comes out other
>> than a
>> completely blank piece of paper.
>>
>> (Before anyone suggests their might be something wrong with my PC's basic
>> ability to print, I print fine all the time to a HP LaserJet sitting
>> right
>> next to the 3800.)
>>
>> So I called Epson again; they have offered to replace it a 4th time or
>> give
>> me a full refund. Samys Camera (what a WONDERFUL store to deal with!)
>> offered to do the same.
>>
>> HERE'S MY QUESTION: Are these 3800s fundamentally problematic? Should I
>> replace it and upgrade to a 4800? Or go back down to a 2400 which I
>> owned
>> before the 3800?
>>
>> I'd GREATLY appreciate any feedback that any experienced Epson 3800 users
>> may have. Other flamers need not reply.
>>
>> TIA ----
>
> You'll probably see the largest number of "works for me" and "never
> works for me" comments about the Epsons. There's something about their
> print mechanisms that is sensitive to environmental factors. I fall
> into the case of "never works for me" for a 2200 that I had. After a
> few months of working well enough, a film of ink kept forming over the
> print head. The printing would fade out then drops of ink would smear
> all over the paper. I'd be lucky to get a 13x19 print completed before
> it went bad.
>
> --
> Block Google's spam and enjoy Usenet again.
> Reply with Google and I won't hear from you. >> Stay informed about: Epson 3800 - URGENT |
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 11:35 pm
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John Smith wrote:
> Urgent: I need feedback ASAP from other Epson 3800 owners.
<< Snipped bits out >>
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> HERE'S MY QUESTION: Are these 3800s fundamentally problematic? Should I
> replace it and upgrade to a 4800? Or go back down to a 2400 which I owned
> before the 3800?
>
> I'd GREATLY appreciate any feedback that any experienced Epson 3800 users
> may have. Other flamers need not reply.
I run a 3800 I got at Christmas, not a problem. I trashed all Epson
drivers before installing the beta driver for OS 10.5, "Leopard".
Kindly bottom post in this group if you'd be so kind.
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 12:23 am
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John Smith wrote:
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> On Feb 19, 2008, I bought a new Epson 3800 from Samys Camera of Los Angeles.
> I set it up, made a single gorgeous 8x10 test print, and everything seemed
> fine - for a while. I left the country and didn't use the printer again for
> nearly 5 weeks. That's when the trouble started.
>
> I returned from my trip about 6 weeks after I bought it, tried to print
> again, and all it would print was clean white pages,
You left it on? Supposedly the newer Epsons are better but the long time
problem was the heads drying out from dis-use. I only turn on my R1800
when I need it and have not had a problem. The sound of draining ink
cartridges is painful when I turn it on but oh well. >> Stay informed about: Epson 3800 - URGENT |
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 1:04 am
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In article <DRWNj.8452$xd5.8346@newsfe17.phx>,
"John Smith" <JohnSmith.DeleteThis@aol.com> wrote:
> Sensitive, like being next to too much heat from the light coming in from a
> window? Or like being next to a draft?
>
Unless the manual states that the printer requires climate control
machinery, one would expect it to operate well in an average room under
average conditions. That might include some filtered sunlight, a draft
of clean air, a tiny bit of dust, humidity between 10 and 70 percent,
and storage temperatures between 50F and 95F. We're talking about home
and office equipment, not factory equipment.
It's hard to recommend a printer brand that might not work based on
common environmental factors that aren't stated in the printer's
specifications. While the Epsons may generally work very well, too many
people find that they work poorly or not at all. Other brands offer
more predictable performance.
>
> "Kevin McMurtrie" <mcmurtri.DeleteThis@dslextreme.com> wrote in message
> news:mcmurtri-66CDD6.22512317042008@softbank060082049208.bbtec.net...
> > In article <L3WNj.8448$xd5.7494@newsfe17.phx>,
> > "John Smith" <JohnSmith.DeleteThis@aol.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Urgent: I need feedback ASAP from other Epson 3800 owners.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Feb 19, 2008, I bought a new Epson 3800 from Samys Camera of Los
> >> Angeles.
> >> I set it up, made a single gorgeous 8x10 test print, and everything
> >> seemed
> >> fine - for a while. I left the country and didn't use the printer again
> >> for
> >> nearly 5 weeks. That's when the trouble started.
> >>
> >> I returned from my trip about 6 weeks after I bought it, tried to print
> >> again, and all it would print was clean white pages, not a single drop of
> >> ink came out. Of course, the brand new Epson inkjet cartridges were
> >> still
> >> in the printer for the past 6 weeks. I powered it off, rebooted my PC,
> >> made
> >> sure all of the techie stuff was OK (I have 30 years of hands on IT
> >> experience, so I know I covered those techie bases right.)
> >>
> >> Then all of the sudden the 3800 stopped even feeding blank pages though
> >> when
> >> trying to print, and started displaying a message on the LCD panel
> >> something
> >> like "Serious error - call Epson technical support".
> >>
> >> So I did, and Epson determined the printer was defective, and agreed to
> >> send
> >> me a NEW 3800 to replace it. I insisted on a new unit, not a refurbished
> >> unit - which is their standard policy if it's more than 30 days from the
> >> date of purchase.
> >>
> >> About 5 days later I received a box from Epson with 3800 Number 2 in it,
> >> and
> >> yes, they screwed up and sent me a refurbished unit. Back on the phone
> >> with
> >> Epson and they agreed to replace it again.
> >>
> >> Two days ago, I receive 3800 Number 3, and I check it very carefully.
> >> Yes,
> >> it IS a brand new printer with all of the manuals, inkjet cartridges,
> >> and
> >> software CD inside that come with a new printer.
> >>
> >> Today I hooked it up, and bingo, 3800 Number 3 fails immediately. Once
> >> again, it will not print ANYTHING in spite of the print heads going back
> >> and
> >> forth and it's SOUNDING like its printing but nothing comes out other
> >> than a
> >> completely blank piece of paper.
> >>
> >> (Before anyone suggests their might be something wrong with my PC's basic
> >> ability to print, I print fine all the time to a HP LaserJet sitting
> >> right
> >> next to the 3800.)
> >>
> >> So I called Epson again; they have offered to replace it a 4th time or
> >> give
> >> me a full refund. Samys Camera (what a WONDERFUL store to deal with!)
> >> offered to do the same.
> >>
> >> HERE'S MY QUESTION: Are these 3800s fundamentally problematic? Should I
> >> replace it and upgrade to a 4800? Or go back down to a 2400 which I
> >> owned
> >> before the 3800?
> >>
> >> I'd GREATLY appreciate any feedback that any experienced Epson 3800 users
> >> may have. Other flamers need not reply.
> >>
> >> TIA ----
> >
> > You'll probably see the largest number of "works for me" and "never
> > works for me" comments about the Epsons. There's something about their
> > print mechanisms that is sensitive to environmental factors. I fall
> > into the case of "never works for me" for a 2200 that I had. After a
> > few months of working well enough, a film of ink kept forming over the
> > print head. The printing would fade out then drops of ink would smear
> > all over the paper. I'd be lucky to get a 13x19 print completed before
> > it went bad.
> >
> > --
> > Block Google's spam and enjoy Usenet again.
> > Reply with Google and I won't hear from you.
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 5:34 am
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On Apr 18, 1:10 am, "John Smith" <JohnSm... DeleteThis @aol.com> wrote:
> Urgent: I need feedback ASAP from other Epson 3800 owners.
>
> On Feb 19, 2008, I bought a new Epson 3800 from Samys Camera of Los Angeles.
> I set it up, made a single gorgeous 8x10 test print, and everything seemed
> fine - for a while. I left the country and didn't use the printer again for
> nearly 5 weeks. That's when the trouble started.
>
> I returned from my trip about 6 weeks after I bought it, tried to print
> again, and all it would print was clean white pages, not a single drop of
> ink came out. Of course, the brand new Epson inkjet cartridges were still
> in the printer for the past 6 weeks. I powered it off, rebooted my PC, made
> sure all of the techie stuff was OK (I have 30 years of hands on IT
> experience, so I know I covered those techie bases right.)
>
> Then all of the sudden the 3800 stopped even feeding blank pages though when
> trying to print, and started displaying a message on the LCD panel something
> like "Serious error - call Epson technical support".
>
> So I did, and Epson determined the printer was defective, and agreed to send
> me a NEW 3800 to replace it. I insisted on a new unit, not a refurbished
> unit - which is their standard policy if it's more than 30 days from the
> date of purchase.
>
> About 5 days later I received a box from Epson with 3800 Number 2 in it, and
> yes, they screwed up and sent me a refurbished unit. Back on the phone with
> Epson and they agreed to replace it again.
>
> Two days ago, I receive 3800 Number 3, and I check it very carefully. Yes,
> it IS a brand new printer with all of the manuals, inkjet cartridges, and
> software CD inside that come with a new printer.
>
> Today I hooked it up, and bingo, 3800 Number 3 fails immediately. Once
> again, it will not print ANYTHING in spite of the print heads going back and
> forth and it's SOUNDING like its printing but nothing comes out other than a
> completely blank piece of paper.
>
> (Before anyone suggests their might be something wrong with my PC's basic
> ability to print, I print fine all the time to a HP LaserJet sitting right
> next to the 3800.)
>
> So I called Epson again; they have offered to replace it a 4th time or give
> me a full refund. Samys Camera (what a WONDERFUL store to deal with!)
> offered to do the same.
>
> HERE'S MY QUESTION: Are these 3800s fundamentally problematic? Should I
> replace it and upgrade to a 4800? Or go back down to a 2400 which I owned
> before the 3800?
>
> I'd GREATLY appreciate any feedback that any experienced Epson 3800 users
> may have. Other flamers need not reply.
>
> TIA ----
John,
Will the printer print a test print from the printer firmware? Some
where in the menus.
Will it print a test print from the computer?
Do you have 64 bit XP or Vista or Leopard on the Mac?
What connection, network or USB? Thy the other one. Length of cables?
Have you replaced the cord?
Have you updated the drivers?
What is the humidity in the room?
Stupid question, did you prime the third unit or just install the
inks?
If you feel you aren't going to get is to work take the refund. If you
have room for it look at the Canon iPF5100, it has continually checked
heads, no complaints with clogs.
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 7:36 am
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Alienjones wrote:
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> ~From your long winded explanation I would say in all honesty, You should
> take the refund. There is nothing intrinsically wrong with these
> printers.
That's not true. There is a problem with all Epson inkjet printers.
I know, I own one.
The problem is ink drying out. Basically, of you don't print at least
one small print every day unless the humidity is 100%, soon the
heads will dry out and it will cost you a bundle of ink to get them
working again.
If you live in Vancouver you may never notice this. But if there are
dry seasons where you live, you will.
However, my $100 printer is otherwise reliable and generates
beautiful prints up to 8 1/2 x 44 inches.
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 8:59 am
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No, it was of course turned off for the 5 weeks I was away from home...
"Paul Furman" <paul-.TakeThisOut@-edgehill.net> wrote in message
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> John Smith wrote:
>>
>> On Feb 19, 2008, I bought a new Epson 3800 from Samys Camera of Los
>> Angeles. I set it up, made a single gorgeous 8x10 test print, and
>> everything seemed fine - for a while. I left the country and didn't use
>> the printer again for nearly 5 weeks. That's when the trouble started.
>>
>> I returned from my trip about 6 weeks after I bought it, tried to print
>> again, and all it would print was clean white pages,
>
> You left it on? Supposedly the newer Epsons are better but the long time
> problem was the heads drying out from dis-use. I only turn on my R1800
> when I need it and have not had a problem. The sound of draining ink
> cartridges is painful when I turn it on but oh well. >> Stay informed about: Epson 3800 - URGENT |
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 9:03 am
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No, the Epson tech and I tried to print from the Epson menu on the printer
too and it failed similarly.
This is all why he, and his manager, and a second manager deduced the
printer I have has an internal hardware failure. THEIR determination, not
mine...
"tomm42" <tmonego.TakeThisOut@wildblue.net> wrote in message
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> On Apr 18, 1:10 am, "John Smith" <JohnSm....TakeThisOut@aol.com> wrote:
>> Urgent: I need feedback ASAP from other Epson 3800 owners.
>>
>> On Feb 19, 2008, I bought a new Epson 3800 from Samys Camera of Los
>> Angeles.
>> I set it up, made a single gorgeous 8x10 test print, and everything
>> seemed
>> fine - for a while. I left the country and didn't use the printer again
>> for
>> nearly 5 weeks. That's when the trouble started.
>>
>> I returned from my trip about 6 weeks after I bought it, tried to print
>> again, and all it would print was clean white pages, not a single drop of
>> ink came out. Of course, the brand new Epson inkjet cartridges were
>> still
>> in the printer for the past 6 weeks. I powered it off, rebooted my PC,
>> made
>> sure all of the techie stuff was OK (I have 30 years of hands on IT
>> experience, so I know I covered those techie bases right.)
>>
>> Then all of the sudden the 3800 stopped even feeding blank pages though
>> when
>> trying to print, and started displaying a message on the LCD panel
>> something
>> like "Serious error - call Epson technical support".
>>
>> So I did, and Epson determined the printer was defective, and agreed to
>> send
>> me a NEW 3800 to replace it. I insisted on a new unit, not a refurbished
>> unit - which is their standard policy if it's more than 30 days from the
>> date of purchase.
>>
>> About 5 days later I received a box from Epson with 3800 Number 2 in it,
>> and
>> yes, they screwed up and sent me a refurbished unit. Back on the phone
>> with
>> Epson and they agreed to replace it again.
>>
>> Two days ago, I receive 3800 Number 3, and I check it very carefully.
>> Yes,
>> it IS a brand new printer with all of the manuals, inkjet cartridges,
>> and
>> software CD inside that come with a new printer.
>>
>> Today I hooked it up, and bingo, 3800 Number 3 fails immediately. Once
>> again, it will not print ANYTHING in spite of the print heads going back
>> and
>> forth and it's SOUNDING like its printing but nothing comes out other
>> than a
>> completely blank piece of paper.
>>
>> (Before anyone suggests their might be something wrong with my PC's basic
>> ability to print, I print fine all the time to a HP LaserJet sitting
>> right
>> next to the 3800.)
>>
>> So I called Epson again; they have offered to replace it a 4th time or
>> give
>> me a full refund. Samys Camera (what a WONDERFUL store to deal with!)
>> offered to do the same.
>>
>> HERE'S MY QUESTION: Are these 3800s fundamentally problematic? Should I
>> replace it and upgrade to a 4800? Or go back down to a 2400 which I
>> owned
>> before the 3800?
>>
>> I'd GREATLY appreciate any feedback that any experienced Epson 3800 users
>> may have. Other flamers need not reply.
>>
>> TIA ----
>
> John,
> Will the printer print a test print from the printer firmware? Some
> where in the menus.
> Will it print a test print from the computer?
> Do you have 64 bit XP or Vista or Leopard on the Mac?
> What connection, network or USB? Thy the other one. Length of cables?
> Have you replaced the cord?
> Have you updated the drivers?
> What is the humidity in the room?
> Stupid question, did you prime the third unit or just install the
> inks?
> If you feel you aren't going to get is to work take the refund. If you
> have room for it look at the Canon iPF5100, it has continually checked
> heads, no complaints with clogs.
>
> Tom >> Stay informed about: Epson 3800 - URGENT |
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 9:04 am
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Hi Doug, which $100 printer did you buy?
<user.DeleteThis@domain.invalid> wrote in message
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> Alienjones wrote:
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>>
>> ~From your long winded explanation I would say in all honesty, You should
>> take the refund. There is nothing intrinsically wrong with these
>> printers.
>
> That's not true. There is a problem with all Epson inkjet printers.
>
> I know, I own one.
>
> The problem is ink drying out. Basically, of you don't print at least
> one small print every day unless the humidity is 100%, soon the
> heads will dry out and it will cost you a bundle of ink to get them
> working again.
>
> If you live in Vancouver you may never notice this. But if there are
> dry seasons where you live, you will.
>
> However, my $100 printer is otherwise reliable and generates
> beautiful prints up to 8 1/2 x 44 inches.
>
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 9:28 am
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<user DeleteThis @domain.invalid> wrote in message
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> Alienjones wrote:
>
>>
>> ~From your long winded explanation I would say in all honesty, You should
>> take the refund. There is nothing intrinsically wrong with these
>> printers.
>
> That's not true. There is a problem with all Epson inkjet printers.
>
> I know, I own one.
>
I hope that you can see the fallacy of your own statement at this point.
> The problem is ink drying out. Basically, of you don't print at least
> one small print every day unless the humidity is 100%, soon the
> heads will dry out and it will cost you a bundle of ink to get them
> working again.
>
> If you live in Vancouver you may never notice this. But if there are
> dry seasons where you live, you will.
>
> However, my $100 printer is otherwise reliable and generates
> beautiful prints up to 8 1/2 x 44 inches.
>
> Doug McDonald
I have, currently, two Epsons, a sub $100 R200 that I use mainly for CD's
and a $2,000+ 4800 Pro. They are not the same and are hardly even
comparable to one another other than that they are both inkjets. I've had
to clean the R200 4-5 times in the last 2 years, the 4800 at least monthly.
The R200 can sit for a month and be fine the 4800 needs to be used at least
weekly.
To the OP: You've gotten some good tips, unfortunately if you've been
trying to print with a dry printhead then the printhead is probably fried.
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 10:21 am
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John Smith wrote:
>
> HERE'S MY QUESTION: Are these 3800s fundamentally problematic? Should I
> replace it and upgrade to a 4800? Or go back down to a 2400 which I owned
> before the 3800?
>
> I'd GREATLY appreciate any feedback that any experienced Epson 3800 users
> may have. Other flamers need not reply.
I use a 3800 but I'm Mac based and therefore any of the issues
concerning the byzantine workings of Windows install/registry/deinstall
issues mean little to me. My own 3800 is networked and runs off my
Wireless router/hub, and is therefore available to all machines on our
network, including PC. It appears to run perfectly. I have encountered
one problem with blobs of ink, Epson knew the problem and talked me
through a reset and head clean process which solved it. I often do not
print for 1-2 months and every time the first print is perfect, unlike
other Epsons I have owned.
The 3800 is used by several hundred readers of Master Photographer. It's
probably the industry standard printer for portrait studios. The new
Gemini IV system from Epson is based on two 3800s. I've never heard of a
single case like yours, and there are no technical issues about the 3800
to be found in the forum for the professional group involved.
I think you have perhaps been giving Epson a lot of hassle for a problem
which is not related to their printer, but to your system.
Have you tried the simplest of procedures - the machine's own test print
pattern? If it will print this, and communicate with the Epson Printer
Utility properly, you can begin to investigate driver setup and
connectivity.
David
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 10:21 am
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Of course, trying to print a test print was the FIRST thing the Epson tech
had me do. Nothing came out. A blank page again...
"David Kilpatrick" <iconmags3.RemoveThis@btconnect.com> wrote in message
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> John Smith wrote:
>
>>
>> HERE'S MY QUESTION: Are these 3800s fundamentally problematic? Should I
>> replace it and upgrade to a 4800? Or go back down to a 2400 which I
>> owned before the 3800?
>>
>> I'd GREATLY appreciate any feedback that any experienced Epson 3800 users
>> may have. Other flamers need not reply.
>
>
> I use a 3800 but I'm Mac based and therefore any of the issues concerning
> the byzantine workings of Windows install/registry/deinstall issues mean
> little to me. My own 3800 is networked and runs off my Wireless
> router/hub, and is therefore available to all machines on our network,
> including PC. It appears to run perfectly. I have encountered one problem
> with blobs of ink, Epson knew the problem and talked me through a reset
> and head clean process which solved it. I often do not print for 1-2
> months and every time the first print is perfect, unlike other Epsons I
> have owned.
>
> The 3800 is used by several hundred readers of Master Photographer. It's
> probably the industry standard printer for portrait studios. The new
> Gemini IV system from Epson is based on two 3800s. I've never heard of a
> single case like yours, and there are no technical issues about the 3800
> to be found in the forum for the professional group involved.
>
> I think you have perhaps been giving Epson a lot of hassle for a problem
> which is not related to their printer, but to your system.
>
> Have you tried the simplest of procedures - the machine's own test print
> pattern? If it will print this, and communicate with the Epson Printer
> Utility properly, you can begin to investigate driver setup and
> connectivity.
>
> David
>
> --
> Icon Publications Ltd, Maxwell Place, Maxwell Lane, Kelso TD5 7BB
> Company Registered in England No 2122711. Registered Office 12 Exchange
> St, Retford, Notts DN22 6BL
> VAT Reg No GB458101463
> Trading as Icon Publications Ltd, Photoworld Club and Troubadour.uk.com
> www.iconpublications.com - www.troubadour.uk.com - www.f2photo.co.uk -
> www.photoclubalpha.com - www.minoltaclub.co.uk
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 10:24 am
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Paul Furman wrote:
> John Smith wrote:
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>> On Feb 19, 2008, I bought a new Epson 3800 from Samys Camera of Los
>> Angeles. I set it up, made a single gorgeous 8x10 test print, and
>> everything seemed fine - for a while. I left the country and didn't
>> use the printer again for nearly 5 weeks. That's when the trouble
>> started.
>>
>> I returned from my trip about 6 weeks after I bought it, tried to
>> print again, and all it would print was clean white pages,
>
> You left it on? Supposedly the newer Epsons are better but the long time
> problem was the heads drying out from dis-use. I only turn on my R1800
> when I need it and have not had a problem. The sound of draining ink
> cartridges is painful when I turn it on but oh well.
The 3800 doesn't suffer from this problem. It can be left switched on,
or off, and had a very low power consumption (the printer itself has won
a couple of eco-energy sort of awards - it is Epson's greenest printer).
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