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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 12:00 am
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Is there a significant difference between a typical consumer dSLR
(400D, D80, A100) and a midrange point & shoot camera?

I've tried to find quantitative/statistical measurements of the dynamic
range of these cameras, but haven't been able to find any.

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 12:00 am
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Is there a significant difference between a typical consumer dSLR
(400D, D80, A100) and a midrange point & shoot camera?

I've tried to find quantitative/statistical measurements of the dynamic
range of these cameras, but haven't been able to find any.

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 12:00 am
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Is there a significant difference between a typical consumer dSLR
(400D, D80, A100) and a midrange point & shoot camera?

I've tried to find quantitative/statistical measurements of the dynamic
range of these cameras, but haven't been able to find any.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 12:00 am
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Is there a significant difference between a typical consumer dSLR
(400D, D80, A100) and a midrange point & shoot camera?

I've tried to find quantitative/statistical measurements of the dynamic
range of these cameras, but haven't been able to find any.
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 12:00 am
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Is there a significant difference between a typical consumer dSLR
(400D, D80, A100) and a midrange point & shoot camera?

I've tried to find quantitative/statistical measurements of the dynamic
range of these cameras, but haven't been able to find any.
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 12:22 am
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plastic_razor.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com wrote:
> Is there a significant difference between a typical consumer dSLR
> (400D, D80, A100) and a midrange point & shoot camera?
>
> I've tried to find quantitative/statistical measurements of the dynamic
> range of these cameras, but haven't been able to find any.


http://www.dpreview.com/learn/?/key=dynamic+range
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 6:03 am
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JohnR66 wrote:
> >
> Yes. You get about a stop worth (YMMV) and if you use the RAW mode on the
> SLR, you can pull out an additional stop. Most P&S cameras don't have a RAW
> mode.


Some P&S cameras, like the Canon G6, do have RAW mode. I wonder how
its dynamic range compares to dSLRs?

I know that the dynamic range of the Digital Rebel XTi (400D) is
measurably larger than that of the EOS 5D, even though the latter has a
much larger sensor. With that in mind, I wonder how much more dynamic
range a dSLR is capable of capturing than a decent P&S? Most people
(including me) believe that dSLRs have higher dynamic range than point
& shoots, but I've yet to see actual numbers to back it up.
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 6:03 am
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JohnR66 wrote:
> >
> Yes. You get about a stop worth (YMMV) and if you use the RAW mode on the
> SLR, you can pull out an additional stop. Most P&S cameras don't have a RAW
> mode.


Some P&S cameras, like the Canon G6, do have RAW mode. I wonder how
its dynamic range compares to dSLRs?

I know that the dynamic range of the Digital Rebel XTi (400D) is
measurably larger than that of the EOS 5D, even though the latter has a
much larger sensor. With that in mind, I wonder how much more dynamic
range a dSLR is capable of capturing than a decent P&S? Most people
(including me) believe that dSLRs have higher dynamic range than point
& shoots, but I've yet to see actual numbers to back it up.
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 6:03 am
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JohnR66 wrote:
> >
> Yes. You get about a stop worth (YMMV) and if you use the RAW mode on the
> SLR, you can pull out an additional stop. Most P&S cameras don't have a RAW
> mode.


Some P&S cameras, like the Canon G6, do have RAW mode. I wonder how
its dynamic range compares to dSLRs?

I know that the dynamic range of the Digital Rebel XTi (400D) is
measurably larger than that of the EOS 5D, even though the latter has a
much larger sensor. With that in mind, I wonder how much more dynamic
range a dSLR is capable of capturing than a decent P&S? Most people
(including me) believe that dSLRs have higher dynamic range than point
& shoots, but I've yet to see actual numbers to back it up.
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 6:03 am
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JohnR66 wrote:
> >
> Yes. You get about a stop worth (YMMV) and if you use the RAW mode on the
> SLR, you can pull out an additional stop. Most P&S cameras don't have a RAW
> mode.


Some P&S cameras, like the Canon G6, do have RAW mode. I wonder how
its dynamic range compares to dSLRs?

I know that the dynamic range of the Digital Rebel XTi (400D) is
measurably larger than that of the EOS 5D, even though the latter has a
much larger sensor. With that in mind, I wonder how much more dynamic
range a dSLR is capable of capturing than a decent P&S? Most people
(including me) believe that dSLRs have higher dynamic range than point
& shoots, but I've yet to see actual numbers to back it up.
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 6:03 am
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JohnR66 wrote:
> >
> Yes. You get about a stop worth (YMMV) and if you use the RAW mode on the
> SLR, you can pull out an additional stop. Most P&S cameras don't have a RAW
> mode.


Some P&S cameras, like the Canon G6, do have RAW mode. I wonder how
its dynamic range compares to dSLRs?

I know that the dynamic range of the Digital Rebel XTi (400D) is
measurably larger than that of the EOS 5D, even though the latter has a
much larger sensor. With that in mind, I wonder how much more dynamic
range a dSLR is capable of capturing than a decent P&S? Most people
(including me) believe that dSLRs have higher dynamic range than point
& shoots, but I've yet to see actual numbers to back it up.
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 7:54 am
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plastic_razor DeleteThis @yahoo.com wrote:

> JohnR66 wrote:
>
>>Yes. You get about a stop worth (YMMV) and if you use the RAW mode on the
>>SLR, you can pull out an additional stop. Most P&S cameras don't have a RAW
>>mode.
>
> Some P&S cameras, like the Canon G6, do have RAW mode. I wonder how
> its dynamic range compares to dSLRs?
>
> I know that the dynamic range of the Digital Rebel XTi (400D) is
> measurably larger than that of the EOS 5D, even though the latter has a
> much larger sensor. With that in mind, I wonder how much more dynamic
> range a dSLR is capable of capturing than a decent P&S? Most people
> (including me) believe that dSLRs have higher dynamic range than point
> & shoots, but I've yet to see actual numbers to back it up.
>
Where did you read the XTi has a larger dynamic range than the
5D? The 5D is limited by the 12-bit A/D converter. The only way
an XTi could beat that is if it had a 14 or 16 bit A/D, which I
do not think it does.

The answers to your questions are on these web pages:

Data on sensors are here:
http://www.clarkvision.com/imagedetail/index.html#sensor_analysis

Dynamic range of DSLR versus P&S are shown in Figure 7 at:
Digital Cameras: Does Pixel Size Matter?
Factors in Choosing a Digital Camera
http://www.clarkvision.com/imagedetail/does.pixel.size.matter

Another plot of sensor dynamic range is in Figure 3 at:
Digital Camera Sensor Performance Summary
http://www.clarkvision.com/imagedetail/digital.sensor.performance
(This page is new and is still a draft.)

Roger
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 8:29 am
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plastic_razor.RemoveThis@yahoo.com wrote:
> JohnR66 wrote:
>> Yes. You get about a stop worth (YMMV) and if you use the RAW mode on the
>> SLR, you can pull out an additional stop. Most P&S cameras don't have a RAW
>> mode.
>
>
> Some P&S cameras, like the Canon G6, do have RAW mode. I wonder how
> its dynamic range compares to dSLRs?
>
> I know that the dynamic range of the Digital Rebel XTi (400D) is
> measurably larger than that of the EOS 5D, even though the latter has a
> much larger sensor.

When, where, and how do you "know" this? Seriously, can you cite some
URL or other?

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(Msg. 14) Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 8:29 am
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plastic_razor.DeleteThis@yahoo.com wrote:
> JohnR66 wrote:
>> Yes. You get about a stop worth (YMMV) and if you use the RAW mode on the
>> SLR, you can pull out an additional stop. Most P&S cameras don't have a RAW
>> mode.
>
>
> Some P&S cameras, like the Canon G6, do have RAW mode. I wonder how
> its dynamic range compares to dSLRs?
>
> I know that the dynamic range of the Digital Rebel XTi (400D) is
> measurably larger than that of the EOS 5D, even though the latter has a
> much larger sensor.

When, where, and how do you "know" this? Seriously, can you cite some
URL or other?

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john mcwilliams
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 8:29 am
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plastic_razor RemoveThis @yahoo.com wrote:
> JohnR66 wrote:
>> Yes. You get about a stop worth (YMMV) and if you use the RAW mode on the
>> SLR, you can pull out an additional stop. Most P&S cameras don't have a RAW
>> mode.
>
>
> Some P&S cameras, like the Canon G6, do have RAW mode. I wonder how
> its dynamic range compares to dSLRs?
>
> I know that the dynamic range of the Digital Rebel XTi (400D) is
> measurably larger than that of the EOS 5D, even though the latter has a
> much larger sensor.

When, where, and how do you "know" this? Seriously, can you cite some
URL or other?

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