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Wayne J. Cosshall

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 10:56 pm
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Hi All,

I posts a new column on my site discussing creativity and depression:
http://www.dimagemaker.com/article.php?articleID=1068

The other column articles can be viewed here:
http://www.dimagemaker.com/specials/dimw.php

Cheers,

Wayne

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Annika1980

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 10:56 pm
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On Aug 15, 9:33 pm, "Wayne J. Cosshall" <wa....TakeThisOut@dimagemaker.com> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I posts a new column on my site discussing creativity and depression:http://www.dimagemaker.com/article.php?articleID=1068

You forgot to mention one temporary cure for depression (for me
anyway). Go rent a nice lens! Something like the Canon 85mm f/1.2L
II usually does the trick.

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smb

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 6:15 am
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On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 19:01:32 -0700, Annika1980 <annika1980.TakeThisOut@aol.com>
wrote:

>On Aug 15, 9:33 pm, "Wayne J. Cosshall" <wa....TakeThisOut@dimagemaker.com> wrote:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I posts a new column on my site discussing creativity and depression:http://www.dimagemaker.com/article.php?articleID=1068
>
>You forgot to mention one temporary cure for depression (for me
>anyway). Go rent a nice lens! Something like the Canon 85mm f/1.2L
>II usually does the trick.
>

Not to mention engaging in some healthy bashing of Republicans as the
source of all your problems, right Bret? Wink

To Wayne: very good article. I think you have some good insight.
Creative people need to create, and when that isn't happening it can
affect many other things in one's life.

A good example is someone who is passionate about creative photography
but works at a real job to make ends meet. Often there is not much
time or energy leftover for what you really want to do, and depression
can result.


Steve





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Annika1980

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 6:53 am
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On Aug 16, 6:14 am, David Kilpatrick <iconma....RemoveThis@btconnect.com> wrote:

>
> Hey, you get some great Google ads when you write about depression. You
> even get Jesus advertising in person.

Link me to Jesus. I got a few questions for him.
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David Kilpatrick

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 7:55 am
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Wayne J. Cosshall wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I posts a new column on my site discussing creativity and depression:
> http://www.dimagemaker.com/article.php?articleID=1068
>
>

Hey, you get some great Google ads when you write about depression. You
even get Jesus advertising in person. Makes it worth going off topic now
and then just to see what Google ads throws up...

David
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Wayne J. Cosshall

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 8:55 am
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LOL well I don't consider creativity off topic.

Cheers,

Wayne

Wayne J. Cosshall
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Blog http://www.digitalimagemakerworld.com/
Photography and Art Forums http://www.dimagemaker.com/forums/index.php
Personal art site http://www.cosshall.com/



David Kilpatrick wrote:
> Wayne J. Cosshall wrote:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I posts a new column on my site discussing creativity and depression:
>> http://www.dimagemaker.com/article.php?articleID=1068
>>
>>
>
> Hey, you get some great Google ads when you write about depression. You
> even get Jesus advertising in person. Makes it worth going off topic now
> and then just to see what Google ads throws up...
>
> David
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Allen

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 9:09 am
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Wayne J. Cosshall wrote:
> LOL well I don't consider creativity off topic.
>
I wish everyone who posts here had the same view.
Allen
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Wayne J. Cosshall

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 12:49 pm
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True, retail therapy (even rental) can help but is not always the best
solution Smile

Cheers,

Wayne

Wayne J. Cosshall
Publisher, The Digital ImageMaker, http://www.dimagemaker.com/
Blog http://www.digitalimagemakerworld.com/
Photography and Art Forums http://www.dimagemaker.com/forums/index.php
Personal art site http://www.cosshall.com/



Annika1980 wrote:
> On Aug 15, 9:33 pm, "Wayne J. Cosshall" <wa....DeleteThis@dimagemaker.com> wrote:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I posts a new column on my site discussing creativity and depression:http://www.dimagemaker.com/article.php?articleID=1068
>
> You forgot to mention one temporary cure for depression (for me
> anyway). Go rent a nice lens! Something like the Canon 85mm f/1.2L
> II usually does the trick.
>
>
>
>
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Matt Clara

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 5:13 pm
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"Allen" <allen.RemoveThis@nothere.net> wrote in message
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> Wayne J. Cosshall wrote:
>> LOL well I don't consider creativity off topic.
>>
> I wish everyone who posts here had the same view.
> Allen
>

On-topic spam is still spam.

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Wayne J. Cosshall

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(Msg. 10) Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 9:48 pm
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Exactly. Balancing life's demands, which only seem to get more and more
as life goes on, can be a major headache.

One thing I did not mention in the article that I find helps me when I
am down is to get involved in helping others. This is why I am school
council president at my daughter's school and do some counseling work
with others. It is surprisingly helpful and having been there, at least
to some degree, helps your empathy.

Cheers,

Wayne

Wayne J. Cosshall
Publisher, The Digital ImageMaker, http://www.dimagemaker.com/
Blog http://www.digitalimagemakerworld.com/
Photography and Art Forums http://www.dimagemaker.com/forums/index.php
Personal art site http://www.cosshall.com/



smb wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 19:01:32 -0700, Annika1980 <annika1980.RemoveThis@aol.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On Aug 15, 9:33 pm, "Wayne J. Cosshall" <wa....RemoveThis@dimagemaker.com> wrote:
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> I posts a new column on my site discussing creativity and depression:http://www.dimagemaker.com/article.php?articleID=1068
>> You forgot to mention one temporary cure for depression (for me
>> anyway). Go rent a nice lens! Something like the Canon 85mm f/1.2L
>> II usually does the trick.
>>
>
> Not to mention engaging in some healthy bashing of Republicans as the
> source of all your problems, right Bret? Wink
>
> To Wayne: very good article. I think you have some good insight.
> Creative people need to create, and when that isn't happening it can
> affect many other things in one's life.
>
> A good example is someone who is passionate about creative photography
> but works at a real job to make ends meet. Often there is not much
> time or energy leftover for what you really want to do, and depression
> can result.
>
>
> Steve
>
>
>
>
>
>>
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Dennis' Newsgroups

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(Msg. 11) Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 11:09 pm
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Well, alot of the great art of the history was from depression or some other
state of emotional pain. This holds true for paintings, sculptures, music,
writing, etc. Nothing like mental anguish to get the creativity juices
flowing to express it.




Dennis


"Wayne J. Cosshall" <wayne RemoveThis @dimagemaker.com> wrote in message
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> Hi All,
>
> I posts a new column on my site discussing creativity and depression:
> http://www.dimagemaker.com/article.php?articleID=1068
>
> The other column articles can be viewed here:
> http://www.dimagemaker.com/specials/dimw.php
>
> Cheers,
>
> Wayne
>
> --
> Wayne J. Cosshall
> Publisher, The Digital ImageMaker, http://www.dimagemaker.com/
> Blog http://www.digitalimagemakerworld.com/
> Photography and Art Forums http://www.dimagemaker.com/forums/index.php
> Personal art site http://www.cosshall.com/
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helensilverburg

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(Msg. 12) Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 5:12 am
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On Aug 15, 9:33 pm, "Wayne J. Cosshall" <wa....DeleteThis@dimagemaker.com> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I posts a new column on my site discussing creativity and depression:http://www.dimagemaker.com/article.php?articleID=1068
>
> The other column articles can be viewed here:http://www.dimagemaker.com/specials/dimw.php
>
> Cheers,
>
> Wayne
>
> --
> Wayne J. Cosshall
> Publisher, The Digital ImageMaker,http://www.dimagemaker.com/
> Blog http://www.digitalimagemakerworld.com/
> Photography and Art Forumshttp://www.dimagemaker.com/forums/index.php
> Personal art sitehttp://www.cosshall.com/

I believe you're talking about a very mild form of depression that
everyone has from time to time. For me, the only creativity that
comes from this are pics that depict a morbid sense of loss,
loneliness, severe sadness, hopelessness, etc. Trying to vent out
through photography what I'm feeling.
Deep depression takes the person to a dark and lonely place, where
nothing interests them. They are alone in darkness where no hope is
in sight. Even a brand new dream camera has no interest, let alone
being creative. Most of the time this is due to a chemical imbalance
and a doctor is needed for help. For some the pain is so severe that
the only way to escape is suicide.
Helen
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Peter H.M.Brooks

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(Msg. 13) Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 7:57 am
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Dennis' Newsgroups wrote:
> Well, alot of the great art of the history was from depression or some other
> state of emotional pain. This holds true for paintings, sculptures, music,
> writing, etc. Nothing like mental anguish to get the creativity juices
> flowing to express it.
>
The artist starving in a garret is certainly still a popular stereotype
and, as such, has to be taken seriously.

So, yes, unhappy people have produced wonderful work - most recently, I
read a review of a biography of Josef Conrad that seems to confirm that
view in spades. He left a happy life as a seaman for an unhappy one as a
writer and family man.

I'm not sure that it is necessary, though. It certainly isn't sufficient
- unhappy people also produce crap.
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helensilverburg

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(Msg. 14) Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 12:58 pm
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On Aug 28, 1:00 pm, "Peter H.M.Brooks" <pe....DeleteThis@news.co.za> wrote:
> helensilverb....DeleteThis@hotmail.com wrote:
> > On Aug 15, 9:33 pm, "Wayne J. Cosshall" <wa....DeleteThis@dimagemaker.com> wrote:
> >> Hi All,
>
> >> I posts a new column on my site discussing creativity and depression:http://www.dimagemaker.com/article.php?articleID=1068
>
> >> The other column articles can be viewed here:http://www.dimagemaker.com/specials/dimw.php
>
> >> Cheers,
>
> >> Wayne
>
> >> --
> >> Wayne J. Cosshall
> >> Publisher, The Digital ImageMaker,http://www.dimagemaker.com/
> >> Blog http://www.digitalimagemakerworld.com/
> >> Photography and Art Forumshttp://www.dimagemaker.com/forums/index.php
> >> Personal art sitehttp://www.cosshall.com/
>
> > I believe you're talking about a very mild form of depression that
> > everyone has from time to time. For me, the only creativity that
> > comes from this are pics that depict a morbid sense of loss,
> > loneliness, severe sadness, hopelessness, etc. Trying to vent out
> > through photography what I'm feeling.
> > Deep depression takes the person to a dark and lonely place, where
> > nothing interests them. They are alone in darkness where no hope is
> > in sight. Even a brand new dream camera has no interest, let alone
> > being creative. Most of the time this is due to a chemical imbalance
> > and a doctor is needed for help. For some the pain is so severe that
> > the only way to escape is suicide.
>
> It is usually better to try SSRIs first - and then tricyclics. Exercise
> also helps.
>
> You're right, though, somebody truly depressed is unlikely to produce
> anything.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


That's why it's so important to see a professional, because only they
can determine what degree of depression you are in and what drug and
how much is best suited for the person.
Exercise does help. Stimulating the endorphins.
Helen
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Peter H.M.Brooks

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(Msg. 15) Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 7:00 pm
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helensilverburg DeleteThis @hotmail.com wrote:
> On Aug 15, 9:33 pm, "Wayne J. Cosshall" <wa... DeleteThis @dimagemaker.com> wrote:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I posts a new column on my site discussing creativity and depression:http://www.dimagemaker.com/article.php?articleID=1068
>>
>> The other column articles can be viewed here:http://www.dimagemaker.com/specials/dimw.php
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Wayne
>>
>> --
>> Wayne J. Cosshall
>> Publisher, The Digital ImageMaker,http://www.dimagemaker.com/
>> Blog http://www.digitalimagemakerworld.com/
>> Photography and Art Forumshttp://www.dimagemaker.com/forums/index.php
>> Personal art sitehttp://www.cosshall.com/
>
> I believe you're talking about a very mild form of depression that
> everyone has from time to time. For me, the only creativity that
> comes from this are pics that depict a morbid sense of loss,
> loneliness, severe sadness, hopelessness, etc. Trying to vent out
> through photography what I'm feeling.
> Deep depression takes the person to a dark and lonely place, where
> nothing interests them. They are alone in darkness where no hope is
> in sight. Even a brand new dream camera has no interest, let alone
> being creative. Most of the time this is due to a chemical imbalance
> and a doctor is needed for help. For some the pain is so severe that
> the only way to escape is suicide.
>
It is usually better to try SSRIs first - and then tricyclics. Exercise
also helps.

You're right, though, somebody truly depressed is unlikely to produce
anything.
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