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(Msg. 46) Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 11:42 am
Post subject: Re: DVD+R vs DVD - R [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: rec>photo>digital (more info?)
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John Turco added these comments in the current discussion du
jour ...
>> Thanks muchly for you many comments and insights in this
>> thread, John. I, too, have stopped using the dual-layer discs
>> on my DVRs. As I think I mentioned in an early reply, I upped
>> the compression from "SP" to "LP" or even "EP" and did not
>> notice any image degradation of the older movies and TV shows
>> I watch but a BIG reduction in file size obsoleting the need
>> for the higher gig discs.
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> Hello, Jerry:
>
> "DVD Shrink" <http://www.dvdshrink.org> is a freeware
> "ripping" program, which allows one to fit even the lengthiest
> movie, onto an ordinary, single-layer disc (with no noticeable
> loss of quality). I've experimented with it, briefly, and it
> really seems to work, as advertised.
>
> Softwarecenterz.com - Download DVD Shrink
> <http://dvdshrink.softwarecenterz.com>
>
> Good luck!
>
Thanks for the heads up and link, John! I will note this for
future reference and likely download and install it.
Question: Since I have had great success in moving from
Panasonic's uncompressed "SP" (Standard Play, I believe) to "LP"
(Longer Play) I have not had a problem with fitting even 3+ hour
movies onto a single layer disc. In most of the time now, I
record in an even higher lever compression mode called "EP"
(Extended Play). When I record something I view as important,
e.g., a commericial free movie on TCM, I use LP but if I am
recording, say, a seres of American Muscle Car where high quality
isn't really available or required for my 61-year-old eyes, I use
"EP" for that and can pack many, many episods on one disc.
So, since this works so well, in your view, would I be OK
continuing to do this or do you believe from your experience,
which I have found is both considerable and beyond my technical
level, that dvdshrink is superior?
Also, is dvdshrink intended to copy a movied from DVD to DVD or
DVD to the HDD of my DVD in highly compressed mode and then to
DVD, or can it also compress movies, TV shows, whatever I have
recorded from cable TV directly to my HDD or both?
Thanks again for your help.
--
HP, aka Jerry
"Surely you jest - and don't call me Shirley!" - from the movie
"Airplane!" >> Stay informed about: DVD+R vs DVD - R |
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Since: Nov 04, 2007 Posts: 1328
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(Msg. 47) Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 4:10 pm
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On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 11:42:56 GMT, "HEMI - Powered" <Nyet.RemoveThis@Nada.EN> wrote
in <Xns9A494453150D8ReplyScoreID.RemoveThis@140.99.99.130>:
>John Turco added these comments in the current discussion du
>jour ...
>> "DVD Shrink" <http://www.dvdshrink.org> is a freeware
>> "ripping" program, which allows one to fit even the lengthiest
>> movie, onto an ordinary, single-layer disc (with no noticeable
>> loss of quality). I've experimented with it, briefly, and it
>> really seems to work, as advertised.
FYI, development of DVDShrink ended years ago, and it can't handle some
current forms of DVD copy protection. Nero Recode is similar.
>Question: Since I have had great success in moving from
>Panasonic's uncompressed "SP" (Standard Play, I believe) to "LP"
>(Longer Play) I have not had a problem with fitting even 3+ hour
>movies onto a single layer disc. In most of the time now, I
>record in an even higher lever compression mode called "EP"
>(Extended Play). When I record something I view as important,
>e.g., a commericial free movie on TCM, I use LP but if I am
>recording, say, a seres of American Muscle Car where high quality
>isn't really available or required for my 61-year-old eyes, I use
>"EP" for that and can pack many, many episods on one disc.
>
>So, since this works so well, in your view, would I be OK
>continuing to do this or do you believe from your experience,
>which I have found is both considerable and beyond my technical
>level, that dvdshrink is superior?
What you are doing is fine.
>Also, is dvdshrink intended to copy a movied from DVD to DVD or
>DVD to the HDD of my DVD in highly compressed mode and then to
>DVD, or can it also compress movies, TV shows, whatever I have
>recorded from cable TV directly to my HDD or both?
All of the above. Likewise Nero Recode.
--
Best regards,
John Navas
Panasonic DMC-FZ8 (and several others) >> Stay informed about: DVD+R vs DVD - R |
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(Msg. 48) Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 7:44 pm
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John Navas added these comments in the current discussion du
jour ...
>>> "DVD Shrink" <http://www.dvdshrink.org> is a freeware
>>> "ripping" program, which allows one to fit even the
>>> lengthiest movie, onto an ordinary, single-layer disc (with
>>> no noticeable loss of quality). I've experimented with it,
>>> briefly, and it really seems to work, as advertised.
>
> FYI, development of DVDShrink ended years ago, and it can't
> handle some current forms of DVD copy protection. Nero Recode
> is similar.
John, copying DVD to DVD isn't my concern so I'm not worried
about copy protection issues, but thanks for the info.
>>So, since this works so well, in your view, would I be OK
>>continuing to do this or do you believe from your experience,
>>which I have found is both considerable and beyond my
>>technical level, that dvdshrink is superior?
>
> What you are doing is fine.
>
>>Also, is dvdshrink intended to copy a movied from DVD to DVD
>>or DVD to the HDD of my DVD in highly compressed mode and then
>>to DVD, or can it also compress movies, TV shows, whatever I
>>have recorded from cable TV directly to my HDD or both?
>
> All of the above. Likewise Nero Recode.
>
I've got your comments and the link to dvdshrink saved. Thanks
for the help and clarification. I think I'll be OK with my
scheme. Have a great week.
--
HP, aka Jerry
"Surely you jest - and don't call me Shirley!" - from the movie
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(Msg. 49) Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 7:50 pm
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On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 19:44:09 GMT, "HEMI - Powered" <Nyet DeleteThis @Nada.EN> wrote
in <Xns9A4995E9BB2BReplyScoreID DeleteThis @140.99.99.130>:
>I've got your comments and the link to dvdshrink saved. Thanks
>for the help and clarification. I think I'll be OK with my
>scheme. Have a great week.
The key benefit to DVDShrink and Nero Recode is that they are able to
compress MPEG2 further with minimal quality loss, as compared to
decompressing and recompressing. They still won't be as good as
compressing to final MPEG2 size in a single step, so that's always the
preferred way to go.
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Best regards,
John Navas
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(Msg. 50) Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 12:47 am
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HEMI - Powered wrote:
<edited for brevity>
> Question: Since I have had great success in moving from
> Panasonic's uncompressed "SP" (Standard Play, I believe) to "LP"
> (Longer Play) I have not had a problem with fitting even 3+ hour
> movies onto a single layer disc. In most of the time now, I
> record in an even higher lever compression mode called "EP"
> (Extended Play). When I record something I view as important,
> e.g., a commericial free movie on TCM, I use LP but if I am
> recording, say, a seres of American Muscle Car where high quality
> isn't really available or required for my 61-year-old eyes, I use
> "EP" for that and can pack many, many episods on one disc.
>
> So, since this works so well, in your view, would I be OK
> continuing to do this or do you believe from your experience,
> which I have found is both considerable and beyond my technical
> level, that dvdshrink is superior?
Hello, Jerry:
Thanks, for the compliment -- however, it's mostly undeserved, as
my "technical experience" is somewhat less than "considerable," in
all honesty.
> Also, is dvdshrink intended to copy a movied from DVD to DVD or
> DVD to the HDD of my DVD in highly compressed mode and then to
> DVD, or can it also compress movies, TV shows, whatever I have
> recorded from cable TV directly to my HDD or both?
>
> Thanks again for your help.
You're welcome, and I hope that John Navas answered your above
queries, sufficiently.
Cordially,
John Turco <jtur RemoveThis @concentric.net> >> Stay informed about: DVD+R vs DVD - R |
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