Why does DPNews and Review Ignore HP Cameras?

On Wed, 05 Apr 2006 00:15:05 GMT, Beach Runner <bob.TakeThisOut@nospam.com> wrote:

>I've been real tempted to consider a few HP cameras. The software is
>reviewed elsewhere to be the great. Several years in a row they've won a
>lot of awards.
>
>The 818 is real tempting, and now the 927, 8.2 mp, 3" LCD screen. I wish
>it had a better zoom capability.
>
>So what up with DPNews and Review?

HP makes garbage. Or should I say, "re-brands" garbage. The only
thing they ever did well with were laser printers and they can thank
CANON for that. Additionally, HP product software is TRASH, worthless
compared to competitors. HP at one time had a sterling reputation for
top of the heap electronic test equipment. Those days are long gone
now. Pretty soon, they'll be at the same level as Vivitar.
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In article <muk6329db89nevp4ndguaa253d3q56mc1n DeleteThis @4ax.com>, Rich
<none DeleteThis @none.com> wrote:

> HP makes garbage. Or should I say, "re-brands" garbage. The only
> thing they ever did well with were laser printers and they can thank
> CANON for that. Additionally, HP product software is TRASH, worthless
> compared to competitors. HP at one time had a sterling reputation for
> top of the heap electronic test equipment. Those days are long gone
> now. Pretty soon, they'll be at the same level as Vivitar.

HEY! Finally, something we agree on.
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DP Review won't publish negative reviews. HP cameras and trash, and would
get bad reviews, so I guess unless you have something nice to say, it's
better to say nothing.

"Beach Runner" <bob DeleteThis @nospam.com> wrote in message
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> I've been real tempted to consider a few HP cameras. The software is
> reviewed elsewhere to be the great. Several years in a row they've won a
> lot of awards.
>
> The 818 is real tempting, and now the 927, 8.2 mp, 3" LCD screen. I wish
> it had a better zoom capability.
>
> So what up with DPNews and Review?
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Rich wrote:
>
> HP makes garbage. Or should I say, "re-brands" garbage. The only
> thing they ever did well with were laser printers and they can thank
> CANON for that. Additionally, HP product software is TRASH, worthless
> compared to competitors. HP at one time had a sterling reputation for
> top of the heap electronic test equipment. Those days are long gone
> now. Pretty soon, they'll be at the same level as Vivitar.

Yup, pretty much all they make is cheap junk any more. Thinking back
to the early 70s and it is hard to imagine that they could have fallen
so far in quality.

Scott
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Beach Runner wrote:
> I've been real tempted to consider a few HP cameras. The software is
> reviewed elsewhere to be the great. Several years in a row they've won a
> lot of awards.
>
> The 818 is real tempting, and now the 927, 8.2 mp, 3" LCD screen. I wish
> it had a better zoom capability.
>
> So what up with DPNews and Review?

Maybe HP doesn't send them any samples to review? Why don't you email
website directly or post a message on their forums.
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In article <muk6329db89nevp4ndguaa253d3q56mc1n.DeleteThis@4ax.com>, Rich
<none.DeleteThis@none.com> wrote:
> HP makes garbage. Or should I say, "re-brands" garbage. The only
> thing they ever did well with were laser printers and they can thank
> CANON for that. Additionally, HP product software is TRASH, worthless
> compared to competitors. HP at one time had a sterling reputation for
> top of the heap electronic test equipment. Those days are long gone
> now. Pretty soon, they'll be at the same level as Vivitar.

Strange how they almost always win in one category or more in PMA's
DIMA Digital Camera Shootout. Here are this years winners:
- Under $100 category Mustek, Inc. Gsmart S55
- $100 to $199 category: HP Photosmart M22
- $200 to $299 category: Pentax Optio W10
- $300 to $399 category: HP Photosmart R717
- $400 to $499 HP Photosmart R927 Digital Camera (with premium dock)
- $700 to $799 Leica Camera AG D-LUX 2

DPReview's Phil Askey was a judge this year, and that was announced on
DPReview before the shootout, but the list of winners was not.

NB
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"nellybly" <nellybly.TakeThisOut@adelphia.net> wrote in message
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> In article <muk6329db89nevp4ndguaa253d3q56mc1n.TakeThisOut@4ax.com>, Rich
> <none.TakeThisOut@none.com> wrote:
>> HP makes garbage. Or should I say, "re-brands" garbage. The only
>> thing they ever did well with were laser printers and they can thank
>> CANON for that. Additionally, HP product software is TRASH, worthless
>> compared to competitors. HP at one time had a sterling reputation for
>> top of the heap electronic test equipment. Those days are long gone
>> now. Pretty soon, they'll be at the same level as Vivitar.
>
> Strange how they almost always win in one category or more in PMA's
> DIMA Digital Camera Shootout. Here are this years winners:
> - Under $100 category Mustek, Inc. Gsmart S55
> - $100 to $199 category: HP Photosmart M22
> - $200 to $299 category: Pentax Optio W10
> - $300 to $399 category: HP Photosmart R717
> - $400 to $499 HP Photosmart R927 Digital Camera (with premium dock)
> - $700 to $799 Leica Camera AG D-LUX 2

What's the judging criteria? Who tallies the results? Is it double-blind and
totally subjective?

>
> DPReview's Phil Askey was a judge this year, and that was announced on
> DPReview before the shootout, but the list of winners was not.
>
> NB
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Scott W wrote:

> Rich wrote:
>
>>HP makes garbage. Or should I say, "re-brands" garbage. The only
>>thing they ever did well with were laser printers and they can thank
>>CANON for that. Additionally, HP product software is TRASH, worthless
>>compared to competitors. HP at one time had a sterling reputation for
>>top of the heap electronic test equipment. Those days are long gone
>>now. Pretty soon, they'll be at the same level as Vivitar.
>
>
> Yup, pretty much all they make is cheap junk any more. Thinking back
> to the early 70s and it is hard to imagine that they could have fallen
> so far in quality.
>
> Scott
>
Hey, they still support the premier most reliable operating system in
the world, OpenVMS... Intel still runs their FABs with OpenVMS.
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"Randall Ainsworth" <rag RemoveThis @nospam.techline.com> wrote in message
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>
> HEY! Finally, something we agree on.

You took the words out of my mouth.
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On Wed, 05 Apr 2006 15:52:33 GMT, Beach Runner <bob RemoveThis @nospam.com> wrote:


>>
>Hey, they still support the premier most reliable operating system in
>the world, OpenVMS... Intel still runs their FABs with OpenVMS.

Wow, never thought I'd read about OpenVMS in this forum.
That is my favorite system to support. Most reliable. Most
architected. A real pleasure to program on (if you really know how to
use all the facilities - message files, help files, libraries,
shareable images, dcl interpreter, etc.).
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jls wrote:

> Wow, never thought I'd read about OpenVMS in this forum.
> That is my favorite system to support. Most reliable. Most
> architected. A real pleasure to program on (if you really know how to
> use all the facilities - message files, help files, libraries,
> shareable images, dcl interpreter, etc.).
>

Thank you for your kind words.

There are actually a couple of us from OpenVMS engineering that read
this forum.

--
John Reagan
HP Pascal/{A|I}MACRO for OpenVMS Project Leader
Hewlett-Packard Company

also a 350D owner
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In article <FFVYf.97017$_c.48439@tornado.tampabay.rr.com>,
Beach Runner <bob.RemoveThis@nospam.com> wrote:

> I'm trying to decide between two very different cameras,
> the new Panasonic DMC-tz1
> and the HP 927.

I just did a DPRev side-by-side of them. No contest! The TZ-1.
The Image Stabiliser & 10x zoom outweigh the 8MP.

The Canon SD700IS could have its hat in the ring too. IS and 6MP, plus
an optical viewfinder....hmmmm!

I personally drive a Panasonic FZ30 and one feature I do appreciate
that's also on the TZ-1 is the option of 3:2 aspect ratio. Snapshots
that will be printed on 6x4 paper don't need to be reveiwed & cropped to
avoid losing details.
--
~Dibley
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