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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 1:25 am
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I am considering buying the Nikon D80

does anyone know if the nx software comes with it or do I need to fork
out another 100 quid?

Can I use any other software to access and adjust raw images

I assume I don't need it for downloading jpeg images

thanks

any other comments would be most welcome

my short list is Nikon D40X, Canon 400D and the favourite at the moment
is the Nikon D80

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 1:26 am
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On Sat, 05 Jan 2008 01:25:59 +0000, Nospam wrote:

> I am considering buying the Nikon D80
>
> does anyone know if the nx software comes with it or do I need to fork
> out another 100 quid?
>
> Can I use any other software to access and adjust raw images

Sure - I use ufraw to access and do initial processing on raw images.

>
> I assume I don't need it for downloading jpeg images

You don't need any software to download images.

>
> thanks
>
> any other comments would be most welcome
>
> my short list is Nikon D40X, Canon 400D and the favourite at the moment
> is the Nikon D80

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 1:45 am
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On Sat, 5 Jan 2008 01:25:59 +0000, Nospam <nospam.DeleteThis@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> I am considering buying the Nikon D80
>
> does anyone know if the nx software comes with it or do I need to fork
> out another 100 quid?
>
> Can I use any other software to access and adjust raw images
>
> I assume I don't need it for downloading jpeg images

It comes with a demo version of NX, which expires after a month or so.
There are a whole bunch of other programs that can understand D80 NEF
files and do adjustments of various sorts.

As you say, no special software is needed for downloading JPGs.

-dms
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 1:45 am
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On Jan 5, 4:59 am, Daniel Silevitch <dmsi... RemoveThis @uchicago.edu> wrote:
> On Sat, 5 Jan 2008 01:25:59 +0000, Nospam <nos... RemoveThis @nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> > I am considering buying the Nikon D80
>
> > does anyone know if the nx software comes with it or do I need to fork
> > out another 100 quid?
>
> > Can I use any other software to access and adjust raw images
>
> > I assume I don't need it for downloading jpeg images
>
> It comes with a demo version of NX, which expires after a month or so.
> There are a whole bunch of other programs that can understand D80 NEF
> files and do adjustments of various sorts.
>

These range from free to unreasonably expensive. ufraw is free (and
based on dcraw), raw therapee is more conventional-looking for non-
unix users and very cheap (free, but the author asks for a small
donation if you use it regularly). It's really excellent in terms of
conversion.

Capture NX is good and probably the most reliable in terms of colour
etc, but I find it extremely slow and the interface is ridiculous.
Good luck if you want to convert 30 shots in one go.
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 1:45 am
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In message <slrnfntp45.edj.dmsilev.DeleteThis@Bardeen.gateway.2wire.net>, Daniel
Silevitch <dmsilev.DeleteThis@uchicago.edu> writes
>On Sat, 5 Jan 2008 01:25:59 +0000, Nospam <nospam.DeleteThis@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>> I am considering buying the Nikon D80
>>
>> does anyone know if the nx software comes with it or do I need to fork
>> out another 100 quid?
>>
>> Can I use any other software to access and adjust raw images
>>
>> I assume I don't need it for downloading jpeg images
>
>It comes with a demo version of NX, which expires after a month or so.
>There are a whole bunch of other programs that can understand D80 NEF
>files and do adjustments of various sorts.
>
>As you say, no special software is needed for downloading JPGs.
>
>-dms
Thank you for the response

do you know the names of any such free/cheap software that will work
with NEF files.

i am about to blow all my cash on the camera and lens.

Thanks again

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 1:45 am
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On Sat, 5 Jan 2008 02:59:57 +0000, Nospam <nospam.RemoveThis@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> In message <slrnfntp45.edj.dmsilev.RemoveThis@Bardeen.gateway.2wire.net>, Daniel
> Silevitch <dmsilev.RemoveThis@uchicago.edu> writes
>>On Sat, 5 Jan 2008 01:25:59 +0000, Nospam <nospam.RemoveThis@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>> I am considering buying the Nikon D80
>>>
>>> does anyone know if the nx software comes with it or do I need to fork
>>> out another 100 quid?
>>>
>>> Can I use any other software to access and adjust raw images
>>>
>>> I assume I don't need it for downloading jpeg images
>>
>>It comes with a demo version of NX, which expires after a month or so.
>>There are a whole bunch of other programs that can understand D80 NEF
>>files and do adjustments of various sorts.
>>
>>As you say, no special software is needed for downloading JPGs.
>>
>>-dms
> Thank you for the response
>
> do you know the names of any such free/cheap software that will work
> with NEF files.
>
> i am about to blow all my cash on the camera and lens.

ufraw/dcraw is free and has a good reputation. I've never used it
myself, but a lot of people on this group think highly of it. What sort
of computer are you going to be using? ufraw is available for just about
anything, but a lot of software is Windows-only.

If you are a student or affiliated with a university, you can get a lot
of the commercial software at considerable discounts. Two that I know of
are Adobe's Lightroom which I think is $100US, and Apple's Aperture is a
bit more. I imagine they have similar discount programs in the UK, but
that's just a guess.

-dms
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 8:16 am
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Nospam wrote:
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> do you know the names of any such free/cheap software that will work
> with NEF files.
>
> i am about to blow all my cash on the camera and lens.
>
> Thanks again


Raw Therapee:

http://www.rawtherapee.com/

It works with the Nikon D80 and many more:

http://www.rawtherapee.com/?page=cameras

BTW: I recent got a D40 and a couple of lenses - very pleased with it.
There should be a version of the 18-55mm kit lens with image stabilisation
out about now - worth looking out for. I originally got the 18-55mm and
55-200mm VR. I now have the 70-300mm VR, so a more sensible wide lesn
would be the 18-70mm.

Cheers,
David
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 9:34 pm
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Nospam wrote:
> I am considering buying the Nikon D80
>
> does anyone know if the nx software comes with it or do I need to fork
> out another 100 quid?
>
> Can I use any other software to access and adjust raw images
>
> I assume I don't need it for downloading jpeg images
>
> thanks
>
> any other comments would be most welcome
>
> my short list is Nikon D40X, Canon 400D and the favourite at the moment
> is the Nikon D80
>

That was the one I would have bought if I could afford it.
I don't think that nx software comes with it. But Photoshop CS3
and I think Adobe Lightroom 1.3 and maybe even Photoshop Elements
all will handle the D80 input, I looked at a chart doing research.
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 4:29 pm
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>Good luck if you want to convert 30 shots in one go.

Explain please.
I use Capture NX to batch save photo shoots to jpg, bulk change WB,
sharpening etc.
I have no problem performing a host of functions in batch mode...set
it and forget it
What is it that you are trying to do in batch but can't do in Capture
NX?


Thanks
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 3:05 pm
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On Jan 6, 7:29 pm, Jerome Ranch <ranc....RemoveThis@mchsi.com> wrote:
> >Good luck if you want to convert 30 shots in one go.
>
> Explain please.
> I use Capture NX to batch save photo shoots to jpg, bulk change WB,
> sharpening etc.
> I have no problem performing a host of functions in batch mode...set
> it and forget it
> What is it that you are trying to do in batch but can't do in Capture
> NX?
>

Hi,
I know you can, but I find the process of changing the settings to be
too clumsy. That by itself wouldn't have been too much of a problem,
and the fact that it recognises the in-camera settings ameliorates the
problem somewhat, but combined with the clumsiness of the rest of the
program it's too much. For example, zooming to 100% to judge NR for a
high ISO shot means I have to wait up to a minute for every change of
the NR slider if set to "better quality". How am I supposed to fine
tune it? It's faster when it is set to "faster", but if you compare it
to practically any other converter, it's glacial (although the NR is
better than average). And so on, I find the whole things just slow and
clumsy.

Now the image quality is excellent, but then again so is the quality
from capture one and it's faster (7 seconds per image-and I prefer its
detail, not that this matters too much). And in C1, I can adjust the
controls I want, press ctrl+shift+c, select the images to which I want
to paste the adjustments, and press ctrl+shft+v. If I want to
separately adjust subsets of these, I can do it again with keyboard
shortcuts (when you adjust settings and ctrl-shft-C, only the changed
settings get copied-but you can select more if you wish). No messing
around with saving settings and selecting the files etc like in
Capture NX. And the adjustments I make stay, I don't have to re-save
the raw file like in capture (which takes as long as a proper
conversion on my machine, presumably to generate the jpeg!).

Capture NX is good in terms of conversion, and I liked it for quick
adjustments, too (ie as an editor), but it's too slow, clumsy and
expensive, in my opinion (and for me). If I dread having to fire up my
raw converter, then there's something wrong. Also, here, its price is
twice .that of paintshop pro,for example, which surely is a more
capable editor (and, unbelievably, faster! keep in mind that I
personally find paintshop unusably slow for what I do). Or 1.5 times
that of capture one, which is a better converter (again in my opinion,
but of course feel free to disagree, these things are to some extend
subjective).
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 10:13 pm
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>> I am considering buying the Nikon D80
>>
>> my short list is Nikon D40X, Canon 400D and the favourite at the moment
>> is the Nikon D80
>
>The international camera show, PMA, is in late January so you might want
>to wait a few weeks to see if a replacements are released. There have
>been rumors about all three of the cameras you mentioned being replaced.

Sounds a good idea.


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