Sony CycleEnergy the same as Sanyon Eneloop?

On Sep 21, 7:34 pm, Dave Cohen <u... RemoveThis @example.net> wrote:
> y_p_wwrote:
> > Saw them at a Fry's Electronics. $11.99 for a 4-pk of AA or AAA,
> > which was $1 less than they had the Sanyo Eneloops. The had the same
> > rated capacity, looked to be the same, and touted the same low self-
> > discharge properties. I know most of the Sony NiMH batteries are just
> > relabelled Sanyo.
>
> > I generally prefer to get Sanyo-made batteries with different labels.
> > That way I can keep each set of batteries together without using
> > labels or markers.
>
> Did they quote numbers. Sanyo Eneloop state 85% over a year. Hybrids say
> 4x better than regular NiMH. Given a choice I would get the Eneloops and
> certainly wouldn't worry about $1 difference in cost. Looks like a lot
> of players are getting into the act.
> Dave Cohen

Yep. 2000 mAh rating. Touting "85% of its original capacity even
after one year of storage". Made in Japan. The following doesn't
state the capacity, but does have the 85% comment.

http://shop2.outpost.com/product/5163506

I realize there have been some Sony fakes circulating in Europe
(3800-5000 mAh labelling), but I doubt Fry's has such a problem.
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Dave Cohen <user.DeleteThis@example.net> wrote:

>Did they quote numbers. Sanyo Eneloop state 85% over a year. Hybrids say
>4x better than regular NiMH.

I think that Sanyo claims that Eneloop cells retain 85 percent
charge for TWO years and Rayovac claims 85 percent for ONE year.
Eneloops are 2,000 mah and Rayovac hybrids are 2,100 mah.
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On Sep 22, 11:24 pm, Daniel Prince <neutri... DeleteThis @ca.rr.com> wrote:
> Dave Cohen <u... DeleteThis @example.net> wrote:
> >Did they quote numbers. Sanyo Eneloop state 85% over a year. Hybrids say
> >4x better than regular NiMH.
>
> I think that Sanyo claims that Eneloop cells retain 85 percent
> charge for TWO years and Rayovac claims 85 percent for ONE year.
> Eneloops are 2,000 mah and Rayovac hybrids are 2,100 mah.
> --
> I don't understand why they make gourmet cat foods. I have
> known many cats in my life and none of them were gourmets.
> They were all gourmands!

Found the Sony info:

http://products.sel.sony.com/battery/cycle_energy.php

Also - I've seen Sanyo claims 85% after one year.

http://www.eneloop.info/218.html
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On Sep 23, 2:24 am, Daniel Prince <neutri....DeleteThis@ca.rr.com> wrote:
> Dave Cohen <u....DeleteThis@example.net> wrote:
> >Did they quote numbers. Sanyo Eneloop state 85% over a year. Hybrids say
> >4x better than regular NiMH.
>
> I think that Sanyo claims that Eneloop cells retain 85 percent
> charge for TWO years and Rayovac claims 85 percent for ONE year.
> Eneloops are 2,000 mah and Rayovac hybrids are 2,100 mah.
> --
> I don't understand why they make gourmet cat foods. I have
> known many cats in my life and none of them were gourmets.
> They were all gourmands!

I can't speak for the rest, but I've bought two sets of the RayOVac,
and their 85% life is between eight and ten weeks, at most. I find
them no different than ye olde basic NiMH cells.
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On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 14:17:19 -0000, Charlie Self wrote:

>> I think that Sanyo claims that Eneloop cells retain 85 percent
>> charge for TWO years and Rayovac claims 85 percent for ONE year.
>> Eneloops are 2,000 mah and Rayovac hybrids are 2,100 mah.
> . . .
>
> I can't speak for the rest, but I've bought two sets of the RayOVac,
> and their 85% life is between eight and ten weeks, at most. I find
> them no different than ye olde basic NiMH cells.

Would you care to describe how the RayOVacs were used or not used
so that they'd lose that much capacity in only a couple of months?
Sitting in a camera or some other device, or sitting unused in a
drawer or battery case? Were these really RayOVac Hybrids or were
they RayOVac's standard NiMH batteries, which would be expected to
lose about 15% of their capacities in those 8 to 10 weeks?

I opened a sealed 4-pack of RayOVac Hybrids several hours ago.
They were purchased not 8 to ten weeks ago, but 8 to 10 months ago.
After operating for several hours in a radio that has an unusually
accurate battery meter when used with NiMH AA batteries, they show
the same reading now that they did when they were first put in the
radio, which indicates only slightly less than a full charge. The
Eneloops that were removed (just after checking with the battery
meter) showed that they had a smaller remaining charge, probably
about 50% left. But they had been used intermittently in the radio
since they were last charged several months ago. So far I've been
using Eneloops and Hybrids for about 12 months (IIRC) and haven't
seen any indication that there's a significant difference between
the two brands. But then they haven't been tested, only used.
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Charlie Self <charliediy DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote:

>I can't speak for the rest, but I've bought two sets of the RayOVac,
>and their 85% life is between eight and ten weeks, at most. I find
>them no different than ye olde basic NiMH cells.

How did you determine this?
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I don't understand why they make gourmet cat foods. I have
known many cats in my life and none of them were gourmets.
They were all gourmands!
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