Cleaning 35mm slides

Dr Phred wrote:
> I have a huge collection of 35 mm slides that were stored in vinyl
> holders. They are kind of stuck in there. It seems the vinyl oozed
> something onto the slides, and if you just yank the slide out, it
> leaves a "water ring". I'm leaving the slides in there until I can
> figure out how to get them out without damaging them. Any suggestions?

You could try soaking them in distilled water, then drying them with a hair
dryer once the vinyl has released it's hold on the emulsion.

I am not saying this will work, thus suggesting it is worth a try!

Dennis.
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Dr Phred wrote:
> I have a huge collection of 35 mm slides that were stored in vinyl
> holders. They are kind of stuck in there. It seems the vinyl oozed
> something onto the slides, and if you just yank the slide out, it
> leaves a "water ring". I'm leaving the slides in there until I can
> figure out how to get them out without damaging them. Any suggestions?

Take on that has the ring on it and try soaking it in water. That will
not damage it, but it does soften the emulsion so be careful as it dries.
Did that clean it? You might also use the suggestion on one of soaking it
before removing it. Distilled water is good as is using alcohol after the
water to speed drying time.

--
Joseph Meehan

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"Dr Phred" <drphred.RemoveThis@attitude.com> wrote in message
news:1174017375.873137.256470@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>I have a huge collection of 35 mm slides that were stored in vinyl
> holders. They are kind of stuck in there. It seems the vinyl oozed
> something onto the slides, and if you just yank the slide out, it
> leaves a "water ring". I'm leaving the slides in there until I can
> figure out how to get them out without damaging them. Any suggestions?
>
The plasticizers used in many PVC products seem to reach out and effect
anything it is in contact with. A vinyl CD case I left on a wood cabinet for
a few weeks became glued to it. It turned the finish into a sticky goo.
Hopefully no permanent damage was made to your slides.

In addition to the other advice, I'd add a wetting agent to the wash to
reduce spotting as the film dries. I used to process my own slides and the
wetting agent, Kodak Photo Flow in my case, was a must.

Polypropylene or, if you want to spend some money, crystal clear mylar
sleeves are recommended.

John
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JohnR66 wrote:
> "Dr Phred" <drphred.DeleteThis@attitude.com> wrote in message
> news:1174017375.873137.256470@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>> I have a huge collection of 35 mm slides that were stored in vinyl
>> holders. They are kind of stuck in there. It seems the vinyl oozed
>> something onto the slides, and if you just yank the slide out, it
>> leaves a "water ring". I'm leaving the slides in there until I can
>> figure out how to get them out without damaging them. Any suggestions?
>>
> The plasticizers used in many PVC products seem to reach out and effect
> anything it is in contact with. A vinyl CD case I left on a wood cabinet for
> a few weeks became glued to it. It turned the finish into a sticky goo.
> Hopefully no permanent damage was made to your slides.
>
> In addition to the other advice, I'd add a wetting agent to the wash to
> reduce spotting as the film dries. I used to process my own slides and the
> wetting agent, Kodak Photo Flow in my case, was a must.
>
> Polypropylene or, if you want to spend some money, crystal clear mylar
> sleeves are recommended.
>
> John
>
>
>
Not about slides, but about insidious vinyl in general--
My wife had an elderly relative who died a few years ago. She had a
modest collection of LPs from the early days of that medium, containing
contemporary-for-the-time classical music; several of these discs had
become collectors' items. But--somewhere down the line, someone had
removed the discs from their sleeves and put them in vinyl-covered wire
racks. The plasticizer from the vinyl on the racks had migrated to the
discs and raised very large welts, just the size and shape of the wire.
Most were totally unplayable. And then there is the reaction between
vinyl and Xerox copies. Vinyl is very good in its place, but that place
is _not_ near other materials.
Allen
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Dr Phred <drphred RemoveThis @attitude.com> wrote:
> I have a huge collection of 35 mm slides that were stored in vinyl
> holders. They are kind of stuck in there. It seems the vinyl oozed
> something onto the slides, and if you just yank the slide out, it
> leaves a "water ring". I'm leaving the slides in there until I can
> figure out how to get them out without damaging them. Any suggestions?
>

Yes, ask in rec.photo.equipment.35mm or another more appropriate group.

--
Thomas T. Veldhouse
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Dr Phred wrote:
> I have a huge collection of 35 mm slides that were stored in vinyl
> holders. They are kind of stuck in there. It seems the vinyl oozed
> something onto the slides, and if you just yank the slide out, it
> leaves a "water ring". I'm leaving the slides in there until I can
> figure out how to get them out without damaging them. Any suggestions?
>
Before you try any of the suggestions, if the vinyl is
clear, scan the slides in the vinyl. That way, you'll have
something to use if the slides are damaged during removal.
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On Mar 16, 8:40 am, Marvin <physc....TakeThisOut@cloud9.net> wrote:
> Dr Phred wrote:
> > I have a huge collection of 35 mm slides that were stored in vinyl
> > holders. They are kind of stuck in there. It seems the vinyl oozed
> > something onto the slides, and if you just yank the slide out, it
> > leaves a "water ring". I'm leaving the slides in there until I can
> > figure out how to get them out without damaging them. Any suggestions?
>
> Before you try any of the suggestions, if the vinyl is
> clear, scan the slides in the vinyl. That way, you'll have
> something to use if the slides are damaged during removal.

Thanks. I will try this first, then the water/photoflo method.
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On Mar 16, 6:55 am, Allen <a... DeleteThis @nothere.net> wrote:
> JohnR66 wrote:
> > "Dr Phred" <drph... DeleteThis @attitude.com> wrote in message
> >news:1174017375.873137.256470@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> >> I have a huge collection of 35 mm slides that were stored in vinyl
> >> holders. They are kind of stuck in there. It seems the vinyl oozed
> >> something onto the slides, and if you just yank the slide out, it
> >> leaves a "water ring". I'm leaving the slides in there until I can
> >> figure out how to get them out without damaging them. Any suggestions?
>
> > The plasticizers used in many PVC products seem to reach out and effect
> > anything it is in contact with. A vinyl CD case I left on a wood cabinet for
> > a few weeks became glued to it. It turned the finish into a sticky goo.
> > Hopefully no permanent damage was made to your slides.
>
> > In addition to the other advice, I'd add a wetting agent to the wash to
> > reduce spotting as the film dries. I used to process my own slides and the
> > wetting agent, Kodak Photo Flow in my case, was a must.
>
> > Polypropylene or, if you want to spend some money, crystal clear mylar
> > sleeves are recommended.
>
> > John
>
> Not about slides, but about insidious vinyl in general--
> My wife had an elderly relative who died a few years ago. She had a
> modest collection of LPs from the early days of that medium, containing
> contemporary-for-the-time classical music; several of these discs had
> become collectors' items. But--somewhere down the line, someone had
> removed the discs from their sleeves and put them in vinyl-covered wire
> racks. The plasticizer from the vinyl on the racks had migrated to the
> discs and raised very large welts, just the size and shape of the wire.
> Most were totally unplayable. And then there is the reaction between
> vinyl and Xerox copies. Vinyl is very good in its place, but that place
> is _not_ near other materials.
> Allen

There was an HBO movie, Blue Vinyl, that exposed the tremendous danger
presented by the vinyl industry, every step of the way. It is a
wonderful material for things like pipes, but its production kills
people, and in the wrong place, it can be very destructive.
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Dr Phred wrote:
> On Mar 16, 6:55 am, Allen <a... DeleteThis @nothere.net> wrote:
>> JohnR66 wrote:
>>> "Dr Phred" <drph... DeleteThis @attitude.com> wrote in message
>>> news:1174017375.873137.256470@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>>>> I have a huge collection of 35 mm slides that were stored in vinyl
>>>> holders. They are kind of stuck in there. It seems the vinyl oozed
>>>> something onto the slides, and if you just yank the slide out, it
>>>> leaves a "water ring". I'm leaving the slides in there until I can
>>>> figure out how to get them out without damaging them. Any
>>>> suggestions?
>>
>>> The plasticizers used in many PVC products seem to reach out and
>>> effect anything it is in contact with. A vinyl CD case I left on a
>>> wood cabinet for a few weeks became glued to it. It turned the
>>> finish into a sticky goo. Hopefully no permanent damage was made to
>>> your slides.
>>
>>> In addition to the other advice, I'd add a wetting agent to the
>>> wash to reduce spotting as the film dries. I used to process my own
>>> slides and the wetting agent, Kodak Photo Flow in my case, was a
>>> must.
>>
>>> Polypropylene or, if you want to spend some money, crystal clear
>>> mylar sleeves are recommended.
>>
>>> John
>>
>> Not about slides, but about insidious vinyl in general--
>> My wife had an elderly relative who died a few years ago. She had a
>> modest collection of LPs from the early days of that medium,
>> containing contemporary-for-the-time classical music; several of
>> these discs had become collectors' items. But--somewhere down the
>> line, someone had removed the discs from their sleeves and put them
>> in vinyl-covered wire racks. The plasticizer from the vinyl on the
>> racks had migrated to the discs and raised very large welts, just
>> the size and shape of the wire. Most were totally unplayable. And
>> then there is the reaction between vinyl and Xerox copies. Vinyl is
>> very good in its place, but that place is _not_ near other materials.
>> Allen
>
> There was an HBO movie, Blue Vinyl, that exposed the tremendous danger
> presented by the vinyl industry, every step of the way. It is a
> wonderful material for things like pipes, but its production kills
> people,

Producing food kills people. Producing _anything_ in any quantity kills
people. Just a fact of life--large scale industry has dangers resulting
from the scale.

> and in the wrong place, it can be very destructive.

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