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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 6:35 pm
Post subject: Should I get the Canon 5D?
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http://www.thepollspace.com/polls.php?pollid=177

Let me know your thoughts! Thanks for any input!

Just FYI, I'm a beginner photographer and just getting into it. Seems
really cool!

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 8:01 pm Post subject: Re: Should I get the Canon 5D? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

dmitri.nguyen.DeleteThis@gmail.com wrote: > http://www.thepollspace.com/polls.php?pollid=177 > > Let me know your thoughts! Thanks for any input! > > Just FYI, I'm a beginner photographer and just getting into it. Seems > really cool! As a user of the 5D, my answer would be "Probably not." The 5D assumes you know what you're doing. That means it doesn't contain anything resembling the automatic modes of point-and-shoots, or even the automatic mode options of the 30D or Rebel series. You'll be immediately dealing with issues of controlling depth of field (which is quite limited, unless you control it carefully), a lack of built-in flash (the 5D has no flash, and relies completely on either a separate, shoe-mounted flash unit, or available light), and the full capability of the camera's sensor to reveal any flaw in technique...or even flaws in lesser lenses within the Canon line. I'd highly recommend buying a lesser (but very capable) body like the 30D or Rebel XT...but with intentional purchase of a lens that will be compatible with full-frame sensors, should you decide to move that direction in the future. I've owned two other Canon bodies--both earlier versions of what is now the 30D, and they produced absolutely beautiful images. Though the 5D is capable of really shining, it is also the least forgiving, and will prove frustrating to (I believe) the majority of true beginners. Mark² -- Images (Plus Snaps & Grabs) by Mark² at: www.pbase.com/markuson >> Stay informed about: Should I get the Canon 5D?

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 5:05 am Post subject: Re: Should I get the Canon 5D? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

"Mark²" <mjmorgan(lowest even number here)@cox..net> wrote in message news:aaTZh.294678$6P2.53099@newsfe16.phx... > dmitri.nguyen DeleteThis @gmail.com wrote: >> http://www.thepollspace.com/polls.php?pollid=177 >> >> Let me know your thoughts! Thanks for any input! >> >> Just FYI, I'm a beginner photographer and just getting into it. Seems >> really cool! > > As a user of the 5D, my answer would be "Probably not." The 5D assumes > you know what you're doing. That means it doesn't contain anything > resembling the automatic modes of point-and-shoots, or even the automatic > mode options of the 30D or Rebel series. Are you sure you've used the 5D? The 5D has the same point-and-shoot mode as other EOS cameras. This is from the 5D manual, page 46. The section is called Using Full Auto. "All you do is point the camera and press the shutter button for quick and easy shooting. With 9 AF points to focus the subject, anyone can easily take nice pictures." If you are considering the 5D, I suggest you download the manual from Canon's website. http://alpha03u.c-wss.com/inc/ApplServlet?SV=WWUCA900 SW >> Stay informed about: Should I get the Canon 5D?

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 5:05 am Post subject: Re: Should I get the Canon 5D? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

Summer Wind wrote: > "Mark²" <mjmorgan(lowest even number here)@cox..net> wrote in message > news:aaTZh.294678$6P2.53099@newsfe16.phx... >> dmitri.nguyen DeleteThis @gmail.com wrote: >>> http://www.thepollspace.com/polls.php?pollid=177 >>> >>> Let me know your thoughts! Thanks for any input! >>> >>> Just FYI, I'm a beginner photographer and just getting into it. Seems >>> really cool! >> >> As a user of the 5D, my answer would be "Probably not." The 5D >> assumes you know what you're doing. That means it doesn't contain >> anything resembling the automatic modes of point-and-shoots, or even >> the automatic mode options of the 30D or Rebel series. > > Are you sure you've used the 5D? The 5D has the same point-and-shoot > mode as other EOS cameras. No, it doesn't. It the only "auto" mode it has is "P" (Program) which is very close to automatic, but it has no "Fully automatic" or "Green Box," which controls everything including flash (the 5D has no flash). Also absent from the 5D are the numerous other automatic assist modes lesser Canon DSLRs have, such as "Portrait, Sports/Action, Landscape, Night mode," etc. The 5D offers only those modes which are offered by the 1 Series, and NONE of the additional modes offered by the Rebel line or 30D level models. >This is from the 5D manual, page 46. The > section is called Using Full Auto. The closest the 5D comes to full auto is P, but you've still got to attach an external flash. Note the numerous or auto-modes below and including the green box on the 30D dial: http://img.dpreview.com/reviews/CanonEOS30D/Images/inhand02.jpg Note the distinct LACK of lower-most mode selections on the dial of the 5D: http://img.dpreview.com/reviews/CanonEOS5D/Images/inhand02.jpg -Mark² -- Images (Plus Snaps & Grabs) by Mark² at: www.pbase.com/markuson >> Stay informed about: Should I get the Canon 5D?

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 8:35 am Post subject: Re: Should I get the Canon 5D? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

"Mark²" <mjmorgan(lowest even number here)@cox..net> schreef in bericht news:RAVZh.259338$JN6.241561@newsfe17.phx... > Summer Wind wrote: > > "Mark²" <mjmorgan(lowest even number here)@cox..net> wrote in message > > news:aaTZh.294678$6P2.53099@newsfe16.phx... > >> dmitri.nguyen.TakeThisOut@gmail.com wrote: > >>> http://www.thepollspace.com/polls.php?pollid=177 > >>> > >>> Let me know your thoughts! Thanks for any input! > >>> > >>> Just FYI, I'm a beginner photographer and just getting into it. Seems > >>> really cool! > >> > >> As a user of the 5D, my answer would be "Probably not." The 5D > >> assumes you know what you're doing. That means it doesn't contain > >> anything resembling the automatic modes of point-and-shoots, or even > >> the automatic mode options of the 30D or Rebel series. > > > > Are you sure you've used the 5D? The 5D has the same point-and-shoot > > mode as other EOS cameras. > > No, it doesn't. It the only "auto" mode it has is "P" (Program) which is > very close to automatic, but it has no "Fully automatic" or "Green Box," > which controls everything including flash (the 5D has no flash). Also > absent from the 5D are the numerous other automatic assist modes lesser > Canon DSLRs have, such as "Portrait, Sports/Action, Landscape, Night mode," > etc. The 5D offers only those modes which are offered by the 1 Series, and > NONE of the additional modes offered by the Rebel line or 30D level models. > > >This is from the 5D manual, page 46. The > > section is called Using Full Auto. > > The closest the 5D comes to full auto is P, but you've still got to attach > an external flash. > > Note the numerous or auto-modes below and including the green box on the 30D > dial: > http://img.dpreview.com/reviews/CanonEOS30D/Images/inhand02.jpg > Note the distinct LACK of lower-most mode selections on the dial of the 5D: > http://img.dpreview.com/reviews/CanonEOS5D/Images/inhand02.jpg > > -Mark² > > -- > Images (Plus Snaps & Grabs) by Mark² at: > www.pbase.com/markuson > > Sorry to (partly) contradict you Mark: have another look at your 5D, and note the "green box"! The 5D does have full auto mode, and it does control the flash (if you connect a suitable one)! You are right about the other auto/assist modes though! Lucas >> Stay informed about: Should I get the Canon 5D?

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 8:35 am Post subject: Re: Should I get the Canon 5D? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

DD-Diver wrote: > "Mark²" <mjmorgan(lowest even number here)@cox..net> schreef in > bericht news:RAVZh.259338$JN6.241561@newsfe17.phx... >> Summer Wind wrote: >>> "Mark²" <mjmorgan(lowest even number here)@cox..net> wrote in >>> message news:aaTZh.294678$6P2.53099@newsfe16.phx... >>>> dmitri.nguyen.DeleteThis@gmail.com wrote: >>>>> http://www.thepollspace.com/polls.php?pollid=177 >>>>> >>>>> Let me know your thoughts! Thanks for any input! >>>>> >>>>> Just FYI, I'm a beginner photographer and just getting into it. >>>>> Seems really cool! >>>> >>>> As a user of the 5D, my answer would be "Probably not." The 5D >>>> assumes you know what you're doing. That means it doesn't contain >>>> anything resembling the automatic modes of point-and-shoots, or >>>> even the automatic mode options of the 30D or Rebel series. >>> >>> Are you sure you've used the 5D? The 5D has the same >>> point-and-shoot mode as other EOS cameras. >> >> No, it doesn't. It the only "auto" mode it has is "P" (Program) >> which is very close to automatic, but it has no "Fully automatic" or >> "Green Box," which controls everything including flash (the 5D has >> no flash). Also absent from the 5D are the numerous other automatic >> assist modes lesser Canon DSLRs have, such as "Portrait, >> Sports/Action, Landscape, Night mode," etc. The 5D offers only >> those modes which are offered by the 1 Series, and NONE of the >> additional modes offered by the Rebel line or 30D level models. >> >>> This is from the 5D manual, page 46. The >>> section is called Using Full Auto. >> >> The closest the 5D comes to full auto is P, but you've still got to >> attach an external flash. >> >> Note the numerous or auto-modes below and including the green box on >> the 30D dial: >> http://img.dpreview.com/reviews/CanonEOS30D/Images/inhand02.jpg >> Note the distinct LACK of lower-most mode selections on the dial of >> the 5D: >> http://img.dpreview.com/reviews/CanonEOS5D/Images/inhand02.jpg >> >> -Mark² >> >> -- >> Images (Plus Snaps & Grabs) by Mark² at: >> www.pbase.com/markuson >> >> > > Sorry to (partly) contradict you Mark: have another look at your 5D, > and note the "green box"! The 5D does have full auto mode, and it > does control the flash (if you connect a suitable one)! You are right > about the other auto/assist modes though! > > Lucas Hee-hee. You know...it's funny, Lucas. I don't think that I've EVER set my 5D with the green box, and over time, it simply ceased to exist in my mind. Interesting! Now that I just "saw it" again...I think I'll try it and see how crippled my controls become. Frankly I find it odd that it's there, since it has no flash to use in what is often referred to as "dummy mode" (no insult meant there...rather that you just don't have to think). -Mark PS- I did indeed "try it" just now...and low and behold...NONE of the controls work except for the shutter button. So... I stand corrected. But to tell you the truth...it's pretty silly to have it at all on this particular camera. -- Images (Plus Snaps & Grabs) by Mark² at: www.pbase.com/markuson >> Stay informed about: Should I get the Canon 5D?

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 9:18 am Post subject: Re: Should I get the Canon 5D? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

On Tue, 01 May 2007 18:35:29 -0700, dmitri.nguyen wrote: > http://www.thepollspace.com/polls.php?pollid=177 > > Let me know your thoughts! Thanks for any input! > > Just FYI, I'm a beginner photographer and just getting into it. Seems > really cool! Sure - if you want it; get it. Would not be my choice, but that's not what you asked. >> Stay informed about: Should I get the Canon 5D?

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 10:27 am Post subject: Re: Should I get the Canon 5D? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

"Mark²" <mjmorgan(lowest even number here)@cox..net> schreef in bericht news:4qWZh.45442$OJ1.12244@newsfe13.phx... > DD-Diver wrote: > > "Mark²" <mjmorgan(lowest even number here)@cox..net> schreef in > > bericht news:RAVZh.259338$JN6.241561@newsfe17.phx... > >> Summer Wind wrote: > >>> "Mark²" <mjmorgan(lowest even number here)@cox..net> wrote in > >>> message news:aaTZh.294678$6P2.53099@newsfe16.phx... > >>>> dmitri.nguyen.RemoveThis@gmail.com wrote: > >>>>> http://www.thepollspace.com/polls.php?pollid=177 > >>>>> > >>>>> Let me know your thoughts! Thanks for any input! > >>>>> > >>>>> Just FYI, I'm a beginner photographer and just getting into it. > >>>>> Seems really cool! > >>>> > >>>> As a user of the 5D, my answer would be "Probably not." The 5D > >>>> assumes you know what you're doing. That means it doesn't contain > >>>> anything resembling the automatic modes of point-and-shoots, or > >>>> even the automatic mode options of the 30D or Rebel series. > >>> > >>> Are you sure you've used the 5D? The 5D has the same > >>> point-and-shoot mode as other EOS cameras. > >> > >> No, it doesn't. It the only "auto" mode it has is "P" (Program) > >> which is very close to automatic, but it has no "Fully automatic" or > >> "Green Box," which controls everything including flash (the 5D has > >> no flash). Also absent from the 5D are the numerous other automatic > >> assist modes lesser Canon DSLRs have, such as "Portrait, > >> Sports/Action, Landscape, Night mode," etc. The 5D offers only > >> those modes which are offered by the 1 Series, and NONE of the > >> additional modes offered by the Rebel line or 30D level models. > >> > >>> This is from the 5D manual, page 46. The > >>> section is called Using Full Auto. > >> > >> The closest the 5D comes to full auto is P, but you've still got to > >> attach an external flash. > >> > >> Note the numerous or auto-modes below and including the green box on > >> the 30D dial: > >> http://img.dpreview.com/reviews/CanonEOS30D/Images/inhand02.jpg > >> Note the distinct LACK of lower-most mode selections on the dial of > >> the 5D: > >> http://img.dpreview.com/reviews/CanonEOS5D/Images/inhand02.jpg > >> > >> -Mark² > >> > >> -- > >> Images (Plus Snaps & Grabs) by Mark² at: > >> www.pbase.com/markuson > >> > >> > > > > Sorry to (partly) contradict you Mark: have another look at your 5D, > > and note the "green box"! The 5D does have full auto mode, and it > > does control the flash (if you connect a suitable one)! You are right > > about the other auto/assist modes though! > > > > Lucas > > Hee-hee. > You know...it's funny, Lucas. I don't think that I've EVER set my 5D with > the green box, and over time, it simply ceased to exist in my mind. > Interesting! Now that I just "saw it" again...I think I'll try it and > see how crippled my controls become. Frankly I find it odd that it's there, > since it has no flash to use in what is often referred to as "dummy mode" > (no insult meant there...rather that you just don't have to think). > > -Mark > > PS- I did indeed "try it" just now...and low and behold...NONE of the > controls work except for the shutter button. > > So... I stand corrected. But to tell you the truth...it's pretty silly to > have it at all on this particular camera. > > -- > Images (Plus Snaps & Grabs) by Mark² at: > www.pbase.com/markuson > > As in a lot of other cases, I totally agree with you! It is quite silly to manufacture a camera intended for knowledgable users (lots of manual options), skipping the dedicated auto-settings, but keeping the point-and-shoot-only option... I use my 5D usually in P-mode (equals lazy mode, I know), except on those occasions when I need faster shutterspeed or wider diafragm, as I learned using the old fashioned medium format, where nothing at all was "auto", except the car you needed to carry all that heavy gear... To change the subject: I can't wait to get the 5D mark II with sensor cleaning system and live view on a larger lcd screen, maybe even AF up to f-stop 8... that is really all I wish for at this moment.... Lucas >> Stay informed about: Should I get the Canon 5D?

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 12:06 pm Post subject: Re: Should I get the Canon 5D? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

"DD-Diver" <dd-diver57 RemoveThis @xs4all.nl> wrote in message news:46384af2$0$12372$e4fe514c@dreader19.news.xs4all.nl... > To change the subject: I can't wait to get the 5D mark II with sensor > cleaning system and live view on a larger lcd screen, maybe even AF up to > f-stop 8... that is really all I wish for at this moment.... > > Lucas Does the line above refer to Autofocus up to f8? For example if I attached my EF 50 f1.8 are you saying it wouldn't autofocus if I selected f16? I s this also the case with the lower end Canon DSLRs? I have to confess I usually use the EF 50 for wide open shots with blurred backgrounds and use the lazy P&S approach with my other lenses but this really does surprise me. Then again I have probably got the wrong end of the poo stick. >> Stay informed about: Should I get the Canon 5D?

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(Msg. 10) Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 12:46 pm Post subject: Re: Should I get the Canon 5D? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

Mark² wrote: > > Hee-hee. > You know...it's funny, Lucas. I don't think that I've EVER set my 5D with > the green box, and over time, it simply ceased to exist in my mind. > Interesting! Now that I just "saw it" again...I think I'll try it and > see how crippled my controls become. Frankly I find it odd that it's there, > since it has no flash to use in what is often referred to as "dummy mode" > (no insult meant there...rather that you just don't have to think). > > -Mark > > PS- I did indeed "try it" just now...and low and behold...NONE of the > controls work except for the shutter button. > I'd say to any beginner who lusts for a 5D: ask your stockbroker or spouse, not here. If they says yes, GET THE DAMN THING AND THE 24-105mm f/4L IS. Set the camera to either aperture priority at about f/8 or shutter priority at 1/200 sec, ISO 200, and start taking pictures. Learn to take pictures. Generations of photographers did, he can too. An XTi or 30D is NO BETTER THAN THE 5D for a beginner!! THINK ABOUT IT! There are just as many ways to mis-set the 30D as the 5D ... hopelessly wrong ISO, or multi-shot, or innumerable other strange modes that require careful RTFM to recover from! I KNOW, I own a 30D. I bought it for an adventure-travel vacation and had to RTFM in some pretty horrible conditions when I accidentally set some stupid mode. Accidents with the little buttons WILL HAPPEN. Doug McDonald >> Stay informed about: Should I get the Canon 5D?

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(Msg. 11) Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 12:53 pm Post subject: Re: Should I get the Canon 5D? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

One question I would ask is why you want the 5D opposed to other (cheaper) models in the lineup? The most important questions to ask are what do you want to photograph and how do you want to display the photos. If you want to shoot wildlife then the 5D is almost definately the wrong camera, the 30D (or any crop sensor) would be better. This is because the cropped sensor effectively gives you a greater zoom with the same lens. <dmitri.nguyen RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote in message news:1178069729.351750.220370@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups.com... > http://www.thepollspace.com/polls.php?pollid=177 > > Let me know your thoughts! Thanks for any input! > > Just FYI, I'm a beginner photographer and just getting into it. Seems > really cool! > >> Stay informed about: Should I get the Canon 5D?

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(Msg. 12) Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 1:10 pm Post subject: Re: Should I get the Canon 5D? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

On Tue, 1 May 2007 22:46:32 -0700, "Mark²" <mjmorgan(lowest even number here)@cox..net> wrote: >Summer Wind wrote: >> "Mark²" <mjmorgan(lowest even number here)@cox..net> wrote in message >> news:aaTZh.294678$6P2.53099@newsfe16.phx... >>> dmitri.nguyen.RemoveThis@gmail.com wrote: >>>> http://www.thepollspace.com/polls.php?pollid=177 >>>> >>>> Let me know your thoughts! Thanks for any input! >>>> >>>> Just FYI, I'm a beginner photographer and just getting into it. Seems >>>> really cool! >>> >>> As a user of the 5D, my answer would be "Probably not." The 5D >>> assumes you know what you're doing. That means it doesn't contain >>> anything resembling the automatic modes of point-and-shoots, or even >>> the automatic mode options of the 30D or Rebel series. >> >> Are you sure you've used the 5D? The 5D has the same point-and-shoot >> mode as other EOS cameras. > >No, it doesn't. It the only "auto" mode it has is "P" (Program) which is >very close to automatic, but it has no "Fully automatic" or "Green Box," >which controls everything including flash (the 5D has no flash). Also >absent from the 5D are the numerous other automatic assist modes lesser >Canon DSLRs have, such as "Portrait, Sports/Action, Landscape, Night mode," >etc. The 5D offers only those modes which are offered by the 1 Series, and >NONE of the additional modes offered by the Rebel line or 30D level models. What's this green box (right next to the "P")? http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/canoneos5d/page6.asp "Fully Automatic Exposure Camera has complete control over exposure, essentially point-and-shoot operation. In this mode ISO sensitivity is set to 'Auto', White balance is 'Auto' and AF mode 'AI Focus'. You can only select self-timer." > >>This is from the 5D manual, page 46. The >> section is called Using Full Auto. > >The closest the 5D comes to full auto is P, but you've still got to attach >an external flash. > >Note the numerous or auto-modes below and including the green box on the 30D >dial: >http://img.dpreview.com/reviews/CanonEOS30D/Images/inhand02.jpg >Note the distinct LACK of lower-most mode selections on the dial of the 5D: >http://img.dpreview.com/reviews/CanonEOS5D/Images/inhand02.jpg > >-Mark² -- THIS IS A SIG LINE; NOT TO BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY! John Edwards' wife Elizabeth told New Hampshire Democrats Monday her husband will do more for women than any other candidate in the field. That's ridiculous and untrue. If Hillary Clinton becomes president, everyone knows that First Gentleman Bill Clinton will do more for women, but we'll never hear about it if he can help it. >> Stay informed about: Should I get the Canon 5D?

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(Msg. 13) Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 3:24 pm Post subject: Re: Should I get the Canon 5D? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

"John Ortt" <johnortt RemoveThis @noemailsuppliedasdontwantspam.com> schreef in bericht news:46386d3f$1_1@glkas0286.greenlnk.net... > > "DD-Diver" <dd-diver57 RemoveThis @xs4all.nl> wrote in message > news:46384af2$0$12372$e4fe514c@dreader19.news.xs4all.nl... > > > To change the subject: I can't wait to get the 5D mark II with sensor > > cleaning system and live view on a larger lcd screen, maybe even AF up to > > f-stop 8... that is really all I wish for at this moment.... > > > > Lucas > > Does the line above refer to Autofocus up to f8? > > For example if I attached my EF 50 f1.8 are you saying it wouldn't autofocus > if I selected f16? > > I s this also the case with the lower end Canon DSLRs? I have to confess I > usually use the EF 50 for wide open shots with blurred backgrounds and use > the lazy P&S approach with my other lenses but this really does surprise me. > > Then again I have probably got the wrong end of the poo stick. > > The 5D (and, as far as I know, all non 1-series Canons) need the lens to have a minimum diafragm opening of 5.6 in order to AF correctly; the 1-series do AF up to f8.0. So, when I use an extender 1.4 on my 100-400 5.6, my 5D will not AF anymore, since the combination has a minimum diafragm of 5.6 + 1 stop = f 8.0. Your EF 50 f1.8 will AF at any set diafragm, since it has a larger minimum opening than 5.6. Lucas >> Stay informed about: Should I get the Canon 5D?

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(Msg. 14) Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 4:02 pm Post subject: Re: Should I get the Canon 5D? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

Bill Funk wrote: > On Tue, 1 May 2007 22:46:32 -0700, "Mark²" <mjmorgan(lowest even > number here)@cox..net> wrote: > >> Summer Wind wrote: >>> "Mark²" <mjmorgan(lowest even number here)@cox..net> wrote in >>> message news:aaTZh.294678$6P2.53099@newsfe16.phx... >>>> dmitri.nguyen RemoveThis @gmail.com wrote: >>>>> http://www.thepollspace.com/polls.php?pollid=177 >>>>> >>>>> Let me know your thoughts! Thanks for any input! >>>>> >>>>> Just FYI, I'm a beginner photographer and just getting into it. >>>>> Seems really cool! >>>> >>>> As a user of the 5D, my answer would be "Probably not." The 5D >>>> assumes you know what you're doing. That means it doesn't contain >>>> anything resembling the automatic modes of point-and-shoots, or >>>> even the automatic mode options of the 30D or Rebel series. >>> >>> Are you sure you've used the 5D? The 5D has the same >>> point-and-shoot mode as other EOS cameras. >> >> No, it doesn't. It the only "auto" mode it has is "P" (Program) >> which is very close to automatic, but it has no "Fully automatic" or >> "Green Box," which controls everything including flash (the 5D has >> no flash). Also absent from the 5D are the numerous other automatic >> assist modes lesser Canon DSLRs have, such as "Portrait, >> Sports/Action, Landscape, Night mode," etc. The 5D offers only >> those modes which are offered by the 1 Series, and NONE of the >> additional modes offered by the Rebel line or 30D level models. > > What's this green box (right next to the "P")? > http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/canoneos5d/page6.asp > "Fully Automatic Exposure > > Camera has complete control over exposure, essentially point-and-shoot > operation. In this mode ISO sensitivity is set to 'Auto', White > balance is 'Auto' and AF mode 'AI Focus'. You can only select > self-timer." Ya, read my response to DD-Diver above... -- Images (Plus Snaps & Grabs) by Mark² at: www.pbase.com/markuson >> Stay informed about: Should I get the Canon 5D?

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(Msg. 15) Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 5:13 pm Post subject: Re: Should I get the Canon 5D? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

dmitri.nguyen.RemoveThis@gmail.com wrote: > http://www.thepollspace.com/polls.php?pollid=177 > > Let me know your thoughts! Thanks for any input! > > Just FYI, I'm a beginner photographer and just getting into it. Seems > really cool! > Guys a troll/spammer - check google groups for his posts. BugBear >> Stay informed about: Should I get the Canon 5D?

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Canon 40D vs Canon 450D (XSi) - Using the same lens; lets say the 18-85mm IS Canon lens. Forget about weight and durability. Which will produce the best image quality or would they be about the same? What are the advantages of the 450D other than a cheaper price which is obvious? ....

Canon 10D vs. Canon XTI... - Hi, may be a stupid question - I'm new to digital cameras, I'm switching from my Canon A1 and I was offered a Canon EOS 10D with a 18-55mm lens for $650.00 CAD. I'm seeing in the advertisments coming out now that you can get a Canon EOS XTI with a..

Canon G9 RAW, same as Canon 300d RAW? - Can my Photoshop CS handle the RAW files from a Canon G9? -- a d y k e s @ p a n i x . c o m Don't blame me. I voted for Gore. A Proud signature since 2001

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