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SpaceMarine

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 8:45 am Post subject: Got my Canon 40D - cant use it in my workflow (doh) Archived from groups: rec>photo>digital (more info?)

so this is my first new camera in ages, and i was pretty excited about working with it. i used to use Photoshop + Adobe Canon Raw (ACR, guts behind Bridge), but now i use Lightroom (also uses ACR i believe). i was pretty bummed to discover LR doesnt recognize the 40D's new .CR2 raw format. refuses to import/convert to DNG. posted on the LR forum and they said this is standard, wait for a quarterly ACR update, etc. ok. guess ill have to. but thats lame. i guess theres a big debate on whether hardware corps should switch to an industry standard file format, like DNG, or whether they should work w/ Adobe to provide launch-ready ACR updates, or whether ACR could be "plugin-able" so Canon can deliver Adobe a new raw "profile" or whatnot. i dont have the architectural answers for that. but i do know its pretty lame that i cant really do much w/ my cam. (sure, i could use canon's software for processing, but when LR supports my CR2 it would be ignornant of any processing i did) sm >> Stay informed about: Got my Canon 40D - cant use it in my workflow (doh)

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 12:24 pm Post subject: Re: Got my Canon 40D - cant use it in my workflow (doh) [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

On Sep 7, 10:54 am, "Sosumi" <sos... DeleteThis @home.nl> wrote: > > so this is my first new camera in ages, and i was pretty excited about > > working with it. i used to use Photoshop + Adobe Canon Raw (ACR, guts > > behind Bridge), but now i use Lightroom (also uses ACR i believe). > > Sorry to burst your bubble, but it´s Adobe Camera Raw, not Canon ) subliminal typo. rest of the post stands. >> Stay informed about: Got my Canon 40D - cant use it in my workflow (doh)

Annika1980

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 12:28 pm Post subject: Re: Got my Canon 40D - cant use it in my workflow (doh) [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

On Sep 7, 11:45 am, SpaceMarine <spacemar....TakeThisOut@mailinator.com> wrote: > so this is my first new camera in ages, and i was pretty excited about > working with it. i used to use Photoshop + Adobe Canon Raw (ACR, guts > behind Bridge), but now i use Lightroom (also uses ACR i believe). > > i was pretty bummed to discover LR doesnt recognize the 40D's new .CR2 > raw format. refuses to import/convert to DNG. posted on the LR forum > and they said this is standard, wait for a quarterly ACR update, etc. > > ok. guess ill have to. but thats lame. i guess theres a big debate on > whether hardware corps should switch to an industry standard file > format, like DNG, or whether they should work w/ Adobe to provide > launch-ready ACR updates, or whether ACR could be "plugin-able" so > Canon can deliver Adobe a new raw "profile" or whatnot. > > i dont have the architectural answers for that. but i do know its > pretty lame that i cant really do much w/ my cam. (sure, i could use > canon's software for processing, but when LR supports my CR2 it would > be ignornant of any processing i did) Dude, what you need is a perfectly LR/ACR - compatible Canon 20D. Maybe we should just trade? >> Stay informed about: Got my Canon 40D - cant use it in my workflow (doh)

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 12:55 pm Post subject: Re: Got my Canon 40D - cant use it in my workflow (doh) [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

"SpaceMarine" <spacemarine.DeleteThis@mailinator.com> wrote in message news:1189179908.878890.65120@50g2000hsm.googlegroups.com... > so this is my first new camera in ages, and i was pretty excited about > working with it. i used to use Photoshop + Adobe Canon Raw (ACR, guts > behind Bridge), but now i use Lightroom (also uses ACR i believe). Sorry to burst your bubble, but it´s Adobe Camera Raw, not Canon ) >> Stay informed about: Got my Canon 40D - cant use it in my workflow (doh)

just bob

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 2:04 pm Post subject: Re: Got my Canon 40D - cant use it in my workflow (doh) [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

At least your using a supported app (or at least one which will support the files). CS2 doesn't like 1D3 files. "SpaceMarine" <spacemarine DeleteThis @mailinator.com> wrote in message news:1189179908.878890.65120@50g2000hsm.googlegroups.com... > so this is my first new camera in ages, and i was pretty excited about > working with it. i used to use Photoshop + Adobe Canon Raw (ACR, guts > behind Bridge), but now i use Lightroom (also uses ACR i believe). > > i was pretty bummed to discover LR doesnt recognize the 40D's new .CR2 > raw format. refuses to import/convert to DNG. posted on the LR forum > and they said this is standard, wait for a quarterly ACR update, etc. > > ok. guess ill have to. but thats lame. i guess theres a big debate on > whether hardware corps should switch to an industry standard file > format, like DNG, or whether they should work w/ Adobe to provide > launch-ready ACR updates, or whether ACR could be "plugin-able" so > Canon can deliver Adobe a new raw "profile" or whatnot. > > i dont have the architectural answers for that. but i do know its > pretty lame that i cant really do much w/ my cam. (sure, i could use > canon's software for processing, but when LR supports my CR2 it would > be ignornant of any processing i did) > > > sm > >> Stay informed about: Got my Canon 40D - cant use it in my workflow (doh)

Saguenay

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 4:48 pm Post subject: Re: Got my Canon 40D - cant use it in my workflow (doh) [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

"Annika1980" <annika1980.RemoveThis@aol.com> a écrit dans le message de news: 1189193308.372243.204730.RemoveThis@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com... > On Sep 7, 11:45 am, SpaceMarine <spacemar....RemoveThis@mailinator.com> wrote: >> so this is my first new camera in ages, and i was pretty excited about >> working with it. i used to use Photoshop + Adobe Canon Raw (ACR, guts >> behind Bridge), but now i use Lightroom (also uses ACR i believe). >> >> i was pretty bummed to discover LR doesnt recognize the 40D's new .CR2 >> raw format. refuses to import/convert to DNG. posted on the LR forum >> and they said this is standard, wait for a quarterly ACR update, etc. >> >> ok. guess ill have to. but thats lame. i guess theres a big debate on >> whether hardware corps should switch to an industry standard file >> format, like DNG, or whether they should work w/ Adobe to provide >> launch-ready ACR updates, or whether ACR could be "plugin-able" so >> Canon can deliver Adobe a new raw "profile" or whatnot. >> >> i dont have the architectural answers for that. but i do know its >> pretty lame that i cant really do much w/ my cam. (sure, i could use >> canon's software for processing, but when LR supports my CR2 it would >> be ignornant of any processing i did) > > Dude, what you need is a perfectly LR/ACR - compatible Canon 20D. > Maybe we should just trade? > > Good answer, Annika... By the way, your recent buterfly and colibri etc pictures were pure gems. Proof they loved your 20 D. mb >> Stay informed about: Got my Canon 40D - cant use it in my workflow (doh)

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 4:57 pm Post subject: Re: Got my Canon 40D - cant use it in my workflow (doh) [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 08:45:08 -0700, SpaceMarine wrote: > so this is my first new camera in ages, and i was pretty excited about > working with it. i used to use Photoshop + Adobe Canon Raw (ACR, guts > behind Bridge), but now i use Lightroom (also uses ACR i believe). > > i was pretty bummed to discover LR doesnt recognize the 40D's new .CR2 > raw format. refuses to import/convert to DNG. posted on the LR forum > and they said this is standard, wait for a quarterly ACR update, etc. > > ok. guess ill have to. but thats lame. i guess theres a big debate on > whether hardware corps should switch to an industry standard file > format, like DNG, or whether they should work w/ Adobe to provide > launch-ready ACR updates, or whether ACR could be "plugin-able" so > Canon can deliver Adobe a new raw "profile" or whatnot. > > i dont have the architectural answers for that. but i do know its > pretty lame that i cant really do much w/ my cam. (sure, i could use > canon's software for processing, but when LR supports my CR2 it would > be ignornant of any processing i did) > > > sm Have you tried dcraw? They tend to get new formats in place pretty quickly. >> Stay informed about: Got my Canon 40D - cant use it in my workflow (doh)

ray

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 9:17 pm Post subject: Re: Got my Canon 40D - cant use it in my workflow (doh) [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 16:57:43 -0600, ray wrote: > On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 08:45:08 -0700, SpaceMarine wrote: > >> so this is my first new camera in ages, and i was pretty excited about >> working with it. i used to use Photoshop + Adobe Canon Raw (ACR, guts >> behind Bridge), but now i use Lightroom (also uses ACR i believe). >> >> i was pretty bummed to discover LR doesnt recognize the 40D's new .CR2 >> raw format. refuses to import/convert to DNG. posted on the LR forum >> and they said this is standard, wait for a quarterly ACR update, etc. >> >> ok. guess ill have to. but thats lame. i guess theres a big debate on >> whether hardware corps should switch to an industry standard file >> format, like DNG, or whether they should work w/ Adobe to provide >> launch-ready ACR updates, or whether ACR could be "plugin-able" so >> Canon can deliver Adobe a new raw "profile" or whatnot. >> >> i dont have the architectural answers for that. but i do know its >> pretty lame that i cant really do much w/ my cam. (sure, i could use >> canon's software for processing, but when LR supports my CR2 it would >> be ignornant of any processing i did) >> >> >> sm > > Have you tried dcraw? They tend to get new formats in place pretty quickly. I note on the dcraw website that if your format is not supported, he'd like you to upload a photo and he'll work on it. Likely to take less than three months. My guess would be probably a few days since it's most likely quite similar to other formats. >> Stay informed about: Got my Canon 40D - cant use it in my workflow (doh)

Robert Coe

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 8:57 am Post subject: Re: Got my Canon 40D - cant use it in my workflow (doh) [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 21:17:00 -0600, ray <ray.DeleteThis@zianet.com> wrote: : On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 16:57:43 -0600, ray wrote: : : > On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 08:45:08 -0700, SpaceMarine wrote: : > : >> so this is my first new camera in ages, and i was pretty excited about : >> working with it. i used to use Photoshop + Adobe Canon Raw (ACR, guts : >> behind Bridge), but now i use Lightroom (also uses ACR i believe). : >> : >> i was pretty bummed to discover LR doesnt recognize the 40D's new .CR2 : >> raw format. refuses to import/convert to DNG. posted on the LR forum : >> and they said this is standard, wait for a quarterly ACR update, etc. : >> : >> ok. guess ill have to. but thats lame. i guess theres a big debate on : >> whether hardware corps should switch to an industry standard file : >> format, like DNG, or whether they should work w/ Adobe to provide : >> launch-ready ACR updates, or whether ACR could be "plugin-able" so : >> Canon can deliver Adobe a new raw "profile" or whatnot. : >> : >> i dont have the architectural answers for that. but i do know its : >> pretty lame that i cant really do much w/ my cam. (sure, i could use : >> canon's software for processing, but when LR supports my CR2 it would : >> be ignornant of any processing i did) : >> : >> : >> sm : > : > Have you tried dcraw? They tend to get new formats in place pretty quickly. : : I note on the dcraw website that if your format is not supported, he'd : like you to upload a photo and he'll work on it. Likely to take less than : three months. My guess would be probably a few days since it's most likely : quite similar to other formats. The .CR2 format isn't especially new. The 400D has had it for more than a year. Bob >> Stay informed about: Got my Canon 40D - cant use it in my workflow (doh)

Doug McDonald

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(Msg. 10) Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 10:21 am Post subject: Re: Got my Canon 40D - cant use it in my workflow (doh) [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

Robert Coe wrote: > > The .CR2 format isn't especially new. The 400D has had it for more than a > year. > True, as well as the 30D. Photoshop reads 30D .CR2 files just fine. And yes, it really is better than the Canon tools, especially because it can correct lateral chromatic. Doug McDonald >> Stay informed about: Got my Canon 40D - cant use it in my workflow (doh)

Peter H.

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(Msg. 11) Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 12:32 pm Post subject: Re: Got my Canon 40D - cant use it in my workflow (doh) [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

SpaceMarine wrote: > so this is my first new camera in ages, and i was pretty excited about > working with it. i used to use Photoshop + Adobe Canon Raw (ACR, guts > behind Bridge), but now i use Lightroom (also uses ACR i believe). > > i was pretty bummed to discover LR doesnt recognize the 40D's new .CR2 > raw format. refuses to import/convert to DNG. posted on the LR forum > and they said this is standard, wait for a quarterly ACR update, etc. > > ok. guess ill have to. but thats lame. i guess theres a big debate on > whether hardware corps should switch to an industry standard file > format, like DNG, or whether they should work w/ Adobe to provide > launch-ready ACR updates, or whether ACR could be "plugin-able" so > Canon can deliver Adobe a new raw "profile" or whatnot. > > i dont have the architectural answers for that. but i do know its > pretty lame that i cant really do much w/ my cam. (sure, i could use > canon's software for processing, but when LR supports my CR2 it would > be ignornant of any processing i did) > > > sm > Maybe you should try to integrate Canon's RAW converter (DPP) into your workflow, and use it until support for the 40D is available in LR. DPP supports 16bit TIFF as an output format, so you may be able to use it just for the basic RAW conversion and do all the fine tuning in LR, without losing too much quality. Sure, that's somewhat inconvenient, but I think it's still a better solution than "not being able to do much with your new camera" for a few months... Peter >> Stay informed about: Got my Canon 40D - cant use it in my workflow (doh)

Annika1980

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(Msg. 12) Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 2:20 pm Post subject: Re: Got my Canon 40D - cant use it in my workflow (doh) [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

On Sep 8, 2:17 pm, "Gino" <m... DeleteThis @privacy.net> wrote: > Annika, > > You tempted by the 40D? You're damned skippy, hippie! I'm quickly entering lust mode. At first I thought it would just be a good replacement for the 20D if and when it ever fails. But I think the faster speed, the added megapixels, the dust removing feature, and the larger LCD screen (w/live mode) puts it at the top of my list. >> Stay informed about: Got my Canon 40D - cant use it in my workflow (doh)

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(Msg. 13) Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 6:55 pm Post subject: Re: Got my Canon 40D - cant use it in my workflow (doh) [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

Annika, You tempted by the 40D? "Annika1980" <annika1980.RemoveThis@aol.com> wrote in message news:1189193308.372243.204730@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com... > > Dude, what you need is a perfectly LR/ACR - compatible Canon 20D. > Maybe we should just trade? > > >> Stay informed about: Got my Canon 40D - cant use it in my workflow (doh)

Tony Gartshore

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(Msg. 14) Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 5:55 am Post subject: Re: Got my Canon 40D - cant use it in my workflow (doh) [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

In article <1189286458.333842.5320 DeleteThis @k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com>, annika1980 DeleteThis @aol.com says... > On Sep 8, 2:17 pm, "Gino" <m... DeleteThis @privacy.net> wrote: > > Annika, > > > > You tempted by the 40D? > > You're damned skippy, hippie! > > I'm quickly entering lust mode. At first I thought it would just be a > good replacement for the 20D if and when it ever fails. But I think > the faster speed, the added megapixels, the dust removing feature, and > the larger LCD screen (w/live mode) puts it at the top of my list. > > I'm hoping that Canon will 'Do an Apple' and slash the price by 30% six weeks after release... Then it would make a very nice Christmas prezzie. > More realistically I'll wait until Mid Jan and see what the prices do once the initial fuss settles down.. The 350D is going to have to put up with me for a little longer.. T. >> Stay informed about: Got my Canon 40D - cant use it in my workflow (doh)

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(Msg. 15) Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 7:55 pm Post subject: Re: Got my Canon 40D - cant use it in my workflow (doh) [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

Mmm. Me too, although I admit I still love the 20D, as I still get the shots I want. I'm on the fence at the moment, although the big LCD is tempting and also the bigger burst for the rare occasions I need it. Increased resolution is always welcome of course, as long as it doesn't add noise. Live mode is not something I would use very often, but handy to have. Not sure what to make of the auto focusing changes, as I don't fully understand the changes yet. Same goes for the auto ISO, sounds good, but I'm not sure how it calculates what shutter speed/aperture I am looking for. Will have to play I guess. "Annika1980" <annika1980 DeleteThis @aol.com> wrote in message news:1189286458.333842.5320@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com... >> Annika, >> >> You tempted by the 40D? > You're damned skippy, hippie! > > I'm quickly entering lust mode. At first I thought it would just be a > good replacement for the 20D if and when it ever fails. But I think > the faster speed, the added megapixels, the dust removing feature, and > the larger LCD screen (w/live mode) puts it at the top of my list. >> Stay informed about: Got my Canon 40D - cant use it in my workflow (doh)

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