Canon 10D - critical problem

On May 28, 11:32 am, spacemar....RemoveThis@mailinator.com wrote:

> its a 6mo-old lexar 1gb 133x smart media card.

mistake -- its a compact flash card, not smart media.


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<spacemarine.RemoveThis@mailinator.com> wrote in message
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> hey folks.
>
> im experiencing something awful w/ my 10d... i take pictures, i view
> them in-camera, zoom in, etc. but i cant open ANY images on the
> desktop. lightroom & bridge show the images are garbage -- yellow
> blocks, weird lines, square artifacts, etc. i have tried win & mac.
> photoshop says it cant parse the files.
>
> and yet, they operatate in camera correctly... also, between shoots i
> formatted the card and began a new set, same proplem. its a 6mo-old
> lexar 1gb 133x smart media card.
>
> using lightrooms copy-as-dng didnt help either.
>
> anybody seen this or know what is wrong!? i have some one-of-a-kind
> images on here, how can i get them into a usable state...
>
>
> thanks,
> sm
>

you can copy the files to your hard drive but cannot open as images?
Only problem is raw or some jpg cannot be read too?

lexar has file recovery software as a free download on their site
but seems like that is not the problem
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On 28 May 2007 09:32:26 -0700, spacemarine.DeleteThis@mailinator.com wrote:

> im experiencing something awful w/ my 10d... i take pictures, i view
> them in-camera, zoom in, etc. but i cant open ANY images on the
> desktop. lightroom & bridge show the images are garbage -- yellow
> blocks, weird lines, square artifacts, etc. i have tried win & mac.
> photoshop says it cant parse the files.
>
> and yet, they operatate in camera correctly... also, between shoots i
> formatted the card and began a new set, same proplem. its a 6mo-old
> lexar 1gb 133x smart media card.

I assume that you formatted the card in camera. If you formatted
it in a card reader, do it again in the camera and see if that makes
any difference.


> using lightrooms copy-as-dng didnt help either.
>
> anybody seen this or know what is wrong!? i have some one-of-a-kind
> images on here, how can i get them into a usable state...

It may be too late since according to what you said, the original
copy on the card was formatted out of existence. If the bad copies
of the image files were transferred to the computer using a card
reader, if you still had the images on the card you could have tried
retransferring them to the computer from the camera's USB port.

If the problem is a sensor gone bad there's little you can do
other than pay for an expensive repair job if the 10D isn't still
under warranty, or get a new/used replacement. If formatting the
card in the camera doesn't help, try removing the batteries - both
the BP-511/BP-512 battery pack and the backup CR2025 'coin' battery
long enough for the contents of any existing volatile memory to be
lost and for the processor to be reset. Then replace the batteries
(and if you haven't yet replaced the CR2025 it might be time to get
another) and see if that helps.
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On May 28, 3:55 pm, "Pete D" <n....RemoveThis@email.com> wrote:

> Probably because the viewer in th camera is only seeing the small imbeded
> jpeg that is used for in camera viewing.

i didnt know that. so even if youre shooting raw, no embedded jpg, it
still embeds a jpg for in-camera zooming?
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On May 28, 12:36 pm, ASAAR <cau... DeleteThis @22.com> wrote:

> It may be too late since according to what you said, the original
> copy on the card was formatted out of existence. If the bad copies
> of the image files were transferred to the computer using a card
> reader, if you still had the images on the card you could have tried
> retransferring them to the computer from the camera's USB port.

well, my second shoots images are still on the card. im going to try
using the camera-usb-cable instead of my CF reader. i also am going to
get the lexar recovery utility; just waiting on a link from their
support people.

they also told me, after the recovery attempt, to re-format the card
as FAT from a win machine.

not looking good for the images. still unsure about the camera.


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<spacemarine RemoveThis @mailinator.com> wrote in message
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> hey folks.
>
> im experiencing something awful w/ my 10d... i take pictures, i view
> them in-camera, zoom in, etc. but i cant open ANY images on the
> desktop. lightroom & bridge show the images are garbage -- yellow
> blocks, weird lines, square artifacts, etc. i have tried win & mac.
> photoshop says it cant parse the files.
>
> and yet, they operatate in camera correctly... also, between shoots i
> formatted the card and began a new set, same proplem. its a 6mo-old
> lexar 1gb 133x smart media card.
>
> using lightrooms copy-as-dng didnt help either.
>
> anybody seen this or know what is wrong!? i have some one-of-a-kind
> images on here, how can i get them into a usable state...
>
>
> thanks,
> sm

If you tried another card, you would then know if it was the card or the
camera!!
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On May 29, 2:06 am, spacemar....RemoveThis@mailinator.com wrote:
> On May 28, 12:36 pm, ASAAR <cau....RemoveThis@22.com> wrote:
>
> > It may be too late since according to what you said, the original
> > copy on the card was formatted out of existence. If the bad copies
> > of the image files were transferred to the computer using a card
> > reader, if you still had the images on the card you could have tried
> > retransferring them to the computer from the camera's USB port.
>
> well, my second shoots images are still on the card. im going to try
> using the camera-usb-cable instead of my CF reader. i also am going to
> get the lexar recovery utility; just waiting on a link from their
> support people.
>
> they also told me, after the recovery attempt, to re-format the card
> as FAT from a win machine.
>
> not looking good for the images. still unsure about the camera.
>
> sm

I've come across symptoms similar to yours twice, and both
times the images were corrupted during the transfer via USB.
Both times the computer worked properly with USB1 devices, but
not with USB2 devices.

The first time it was a defective USB port on the motherboard.
(No, it wasn't a software or driver problem). The second time,
the culprit was a low-grade USB extension cable that could not
cope with USB2 speeds.

These were two different computers, neither of which was mine,
but I ran tests that confirmed that they were USB transfer
problems.
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<spacemarine.DeleteThis@mailinator.com> wrote in message
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> On May 28, 3:55 pm, "Pete D" <n....DeleteThis@email.com> wrote:
>
>> Probably because the viewer in th camera is only seeing the small imbeded
>> jpeg that is used for in camera viewing.
>
> i didnt know that. so even if youre shooting raw, no embedded jpg, it
> still embeds a jpg for in-camera zooming?

Yes, that is pretty normal for RAW files from most manufacturers.
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<spacemarine.DeleteThis@mailinator.com> wrote in message
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>i should add, canon's FVU doesnt help either. attempts to transfer/
> convert to other image formats fail.
>
> crud. i think the card must be messed up..tho im confused as to why in-
> camera i can zoom in on the raws (shot in raw+jpg).
>

Probably because the viewer in th camera is only seeing the small imbeded
jpeg that is used for in camera viewing.
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<spacemarine.RemoveThis@mailinator.com> wrote in message
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>i should add, canon's FVU doesnt help either. attempts to transfer/
> convert to other image formats fail.
>
> crud. i think the card must be messed up..tho im confused as to why in-
> camera i can zoom in on the raws (shot in raw+jpg).
>

Probably because the viewer in th camera is only seeing the small imbeded
jpeg that is used for in camera viewing.
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<spacemarine DeleteThis @mailinator.com> wrote in message
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>i should add, canon's FVU doesnt help either. attempts to transfer/
> convert to other image formats fail.
>
> crud. i think the card must be messed up..tho im confused as to why in-
> camera i can zoom in on the raws (shot in raw+jpg).
>

Probably because the viewer in th camera is only seeing the small imbeded
jpeg that is used for in camera viewing.
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On May 28, 4:06 pm, spacemar... RemoveThis @mailinator.com wrote:

> well, my second shoot's images are still on the card. im going to try
> using the camera-usb-cable instead of my CF reader. i also am going to
> get the lexar recovery utility; just waiting on a link from their
> support people.

good news!

lexar sent me their file recovery tool, v2. i ran the medium scan on
it, and it WAS ABLE to recover my second shoot's images -- the ones
that are currently residing on the card. had some good ones here too,
so thats a relief.

it is still a serious bummer that i lost 1gb of images from my first
faulty shoot (they are sitting on my desktop, i havent killed em yet).
it has now introduced an element of paranoia into my previously worry-
free digital lifestyle. what was the problem? the card? the card
reader? the card reader cable? the mac (while i did try reading on a
windows instance, that was a virtual machine, so it would still have
used the mac's USB bus)... i have no idea... that worries me.

fyi, im using the same card reader & cable w/ the lexar recovery tool
as i did w/ my initial transfer. didnt computer, a physical windows
box.

can anyone suggest more tests to perform? once my testing is complete
im going to format the card using the lexar utility. or should i
demand an exchange? will they take it?


thanks!
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