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RBrickston

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 10:56 pm
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Is the list limited to Canon and the old Kodak/Nikons?

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 12:55 am Post subject: Re: SLR Cameras with a full frame sensor [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

RBrickston wrote: > Is the list limited to Canon and the old Kodak/Nikons? Do you mean 35mm frame size? 35mm is about half full frame of the Hasselblad H3D 39 or Mamiya ZD, but full frame for 35mm format. Most dslrs are full frame of the APS-C format, some are full frame of the 4/3 format. There's also some oddball frame sizes from Canon and Leica. Apart from for the oddball Canon format in the 1d series, there are dedicated lenses available to suit all of the new formats. >> Stay informed about: SLR Cameras with a full frame sensor

Daniel Silevitch

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 1:43 am Post subject: Re: SLR Cameras with a full frame sensor [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 01:27:18 GMT, RBrickston <rb20170REMOVE RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote: > Is the list limited to Canon and the old Kodak/Nikons? Nikon has a new one that should be going on sale in a few weeks, the D3. http://www.dpreview.com/previews/nikond3/ -dms >> Stay informed about: SLR Cameras with a full frame sensor

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 11:47 am Post subject: Re: SLR Cameras with a full frame sensor [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

RBrickston wrote: > Is the list limited to Canon and the old Kodak/Nikons? No. Nikon has a new 35mm frame dslr camera, the D3. <http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/specs/Nikon/nikon_d3.asp> >> Stay informed about: SLR Cameras with a full frame sensor

Fletis Humplebacker

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 1:51 pm Post subject: Re: SLR Cameras with a full frame sensor [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

Daniel Silevitch wrote: > On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 01:27:18 GMT, RBrickston <rb20170REMOVE.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote: >> Is the list limited to Canon and the old Kodak/Nikons? > > Nikon has a new one that should be going on sale in a few weeks, the D3. > > http://www.dpreview.com/previews/nikond3/ > > -dms Damn, now I remember why I haven't read this group for awhile. (Looking hard at bank account) >> Stay informed about: SLR Cameras with a full frame sensor

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 2:36 pm Post subject: Re: SLR Cameras with a full frame sensor [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

Fletis Humplebacker wrote: > Daniel Silevitch wrote: >> On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 01:27:18 GMT, RBrickston <rb20170REMOVE.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> >> wrote: >>> Is the list limited to Canon and the old Kodak/Nikons? >> >> Nikon has a new one that should be going on sale in a few weeks, the D3. >> >> http://www.dpreview.com/previews/nikond3/ >> >> -dms > > Damn, now I remember why I haven't read this group for awhile. > (Looking hard at bank account) It's nice that the D3 can use the DX lenses, albeit at lower resolution. Canon's EF-s lenses don't work at all on their full frame bodies. >> Stay informed about: SLR Cameras with a full frame sensor

frederick

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 10:09 am Post subject: Re: SLR Cameras with a full frame sensor [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

SMS wrote: > Fletis Humplebacker wrote: >> Daniel Silevitch wrote: >>> On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 01:27:18 GMT, RBrickston >>> <rb20170REMOVE.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote: >>>> Is the list limited to Canon and the old Kodak/Nikons? >>> >>> Nikon has a new one that should be going on sale in a few weeks, the D3. >>> >>> http://www.dpreview.com/previews/nikond3/ >>> >>> -dms >> >> Damn, now I remember why I haven't read this group for awhile. >> (Looking hard at bank account) > > It's nice that the D3 can use the DX lenses, albeit at lower resolution. > Canon's EF-s lenses don't work at all on their full frame bodies. The "dx crop" mode can be switched off. DX lenses that have an imaging circle covering larger than dx frame can still be used on FX. How well they'll perform is another question - probably not so good. >> Stay informed about: SLR Cameras with a full frame sensor

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 5:12 am Post subject: Re: SLR Cameras with a full frame sensor [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

RBrickston wrote: > Is the list limited to Canon and the old Kodak/Nikons? There was also the Contax N Digital. I think Contax was the first to ship a digital camera with a 35mm full-frame sensor, though there were medium-format backs with sensors of that size. -Bryan >> Stay informed about: SLR Cameras with a full frame sensor

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 5:12 am Post subject: Re: SLR Cameras with a full frame sensor [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

frederick wrote: > RBrickston wrote: >> Is the list limited to Canon and the old Kodak/Nikons? > > Do you mean 35mm frame size? "35mm" refers to the film width. It's not a frame size. > 35mm is about half full frame of the Hasselblad H3D 39 or Mamiya ZD, but > full frame for 35mm format. > Most dslrs are full frame of the APS-C format, some are full frame of > the 4/3 format. Used to think that "full-frame" is ambiguous, but others convinced me I was mistaken. Still cameras using 35mm film generally used either the half-frame or full-frame layout. The same terminology is not used for the different frame layouts on other film stock. The popular frame sizes on medium format film are called 645, 6x6, 6x7, 6x9, or 6x<something-else>. APS used the letter designations. On the other hand, "35mm full-frame" is certainly more clear. -- --Bryan >> Stay informed about: SLR Cameras with a full frame sensor

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(Msg. 10) Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 5:12 am Post subject: Re: SLR Cameras with a full frame sensor [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

Bryan Olson wrote: > frederick wrote: >> RBrickston wrote: >>> Is the list limited to Canon and the old Kodak/Nikons? >> >> Do you mean 35mm frame size? > > "35mm" refers to the film width. It's not a > frame size. > >> 35mm is about half full frame of the Hasselblad H3D 39 or Mamiya ZD, >> but full frame for 35mm format. >> Most dslrs are full frame of the APS-C format, some are full frame of >> the 4/3 format. > > Used to think that "full-frame" is ambiguous, > but others convinced me I was mistaken. > > Still cameras using 35mm film generally used > either the half-frame or full-frame layout. The > same terminology is not used for the different > frame layouts on other film stock. The popular > frame sizes on medium format film are called 645, > 6x6, 6x7, 6x9, or 6x<something-else>. APS used > the letter designations. > > On the other hand, "35mm full-frame" is certainly > more clear. > > lol. And I thought that I was being pedantic (but I don't disagree with what you say) Perhaps Nikon's "FX" designation is sensible after all. >> Stay informed about: SLR Cameras with a full frame sensor

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(Msg. 11) Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 8:53 am Post subject: Re: SLR Cameras with a full frame sensor [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

"frederick" <lost RemoveThis @sea.com> wrote in message news:1192175826.314209@ftpsrv1... > Bryan Olson wrote: >> frederick wrote: >>> RBrickston wrote: >>>> Is the list limited to Canon and the old Kodak/Nikons? >>> >>> Do you mean 35mm frame size? >> >> On the other hand, "35mm full-frame" is certainly >> more clear. It might have been clearer if They had just started stating sensor size, Eg instead of what is commonnly reffered to as 'full frame' just call it 35/36mm Instead of the usual 'cropped'cameras call them 28mm (for 1.6 crop factor cameras) 32mm (for 1.3 crop factor cameras) and so on... Personally I would have found it less confusing when I was starting out. >> Stay informed about: SLR Cameras with a full frame sensor

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(Msg. 12) Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 8:56 am Post subject: Re: SLR Cameras with a full frame sensor [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

John Ortt wrote: > "frederick" <lost RemoveThis @sea.com> wrote in message > news:1192175826.314209@ftpsrv1... >> Bryan Olson wrote: >>> frederick wrote: >>>> RBrickston wrote: >>>>> Is the list limited to Canon and the old Kodak/Nikons? >>>> Do you mean 35mm frame size? >>> On the other hand, "35mm full-frame" is certainly >>> more clear. > > It might have been clearer if They had just started stating sensor size, > > Eg instead of what is commonnly reffered to as 'full frame' just call it > 35/36mm > > Instead of the usual 'cropped'cameras call them > 28mm (for 1.6 crop factor cameras) > 32mm (for 1.3 crop factor cameras) > > and so on... > > Personally I would have found it less confusing when I was starting out. Yes, but it's easier to "convert" in one's mind thinking full frame, 1.6, 1.5, 1.3 conversion factor. -- john mcwilliams >> Stay informed about: SLR Cameras with a full frame sensor

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(Msg. 13) Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 9:52 am Post subject: Re: SLR Cameras with a full frame sensor [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

John McWilliams wrote: > John Ortt wrote: >> "frederick" <lost.TakeThisOut@sea.com> wrote in message >> news:1192175826.314209@ftpsrv1... >>> Bryan Olson wrote: >>>> frederick wrote: >>>>> RBrickston wrote: >>>>>> Is the list limited to Canon and the old Kodak/Nikons? >>>>> Do you mean 35mm frame size? >>>> On the other hand, "35mm full-frame" is certainly >>>> more clear. >> >> It might have been clearer if They had just started stating sensor size, >> >> Eg instead of what is commonnly reffered to as 'full frame' just call >> it 35/36mm >> >> Instead of the usual 'cropped'cameras call them >> 28mm (for 1.6 crop factor cameras) >> 32mm (for 1.3 crop factor cameras) >> >> and so on... >> >> Personally I would have found it less confusing when I was starting out. > > Yes, but it's easier to "convert" in one's mind thinking full frame, > 1.6, 1.5, 1.3 conversion factor. > Lest I jangle a nerve, I shoulda said, "for me". I don't think "crop", I think apparent multiplier effect on focal length when choosing a lens. -- john mcwilliams >> Stay informed about: SLR Cameras with a full frame sensor

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(Msg. 14) Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 5:00 am Post subject: Re: DSLR Cameras with a 36mm x 24mm sensor [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

In article <XEFPi.33577$eY.2872@newssvr13.news.prodigy.net>, fakeaddress.TakeThisOut@nowhere.org says... > frederick wrote: > > RBrickston wrote: > >> Is the list limited to Canon and the old Kodak/Nikons? > > > > Do you mean 35mm frame size? > > "35mm" refers to the film width. It's not a > frame size. > > > 35mm is about half full frame of the Hasselblad H3D 39 or Mamiya ZD, but > > full frame for 35mm format. > > Most dslrs are full frame of the APS-C format, some are full frame of > > the 4/3 format. > > Used to think that "full-frame" is ambiguous, > but others convinced me I was mistaken. > > Still cameras using 35mm film generally used > either the half-frame or full-frame layout. The > same terminology is not used for the different > frame layouts on other film stock. The popular > frame sizes on medium format film are called 645, > 6x6, 6x7, 6x9, or 6x<something-else>. APS used > the letter designations. > > On the other hand, "35mm full-frame" is certainly > more clear. > > > Ok, let me rephrase it: What are the available models of used digital SLR cameras with a sensor size of 36mm x 24mm? >> Stay informed about: SLR Cameras with a full frame sensor

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(Msg. 15) Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 5:00 am Post subject: Re: DSLR Cameras with a 36mm x 24mm sensor [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

In article <MPG.217a39acfab2a80e98995d.RemoveThis@news.verizon.net>, RBrickston <rb20170REMOVE.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote: > Ok, let me rephrase it: What are the available models of used digital SLR > cameras with a sensor size of 36mm x 24mm? contax n digital (if you could find one) kodak 14n, slr/n, slr/c canon eos 1ds, 1ds mark ii, 5d. the only other two are the canon eos 1ds mark iii and nikon d3, and they are too new for any to be available used. >> Stay informed about: SLR Cameras with a full frame sensor

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