Which Camera?

David J Taylor wrote:
> bob.binz.ut RemoveThis @googlemail.com wrote:
> []
>> Canon EOS 350D
>> Canon EOS 400D
>> Nikon D40
>> Nikon D50
> []
>> So, which way to go?
>
> Go to the shop and feel the handling of each camera. If you will be
> working outdoors, can you operate the camera with gloves on (if
> relevant). How do the different viewfinders strike you?
>
> SLR is not the only route, of course. You may not want the size,
> weight or expense of a complete outfit, dragging you down everywhere
> you go. You decide!
>
> David

Very good advice. All the cameras listed are very good. None have
serious weaknesses. All are very good choices.

--
Joseph Meehan

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I have had several Canon digital cameras and decided to move to a
DSLR. I spend time browsing this forum to see if the new Canon Rebel
XTi (400D) would be good for me. I ended up buying it last week and
am getting some great shots.

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bob.binz.ut DeleteThis @googlemail.com wrote:

>Hi Guys, I know this isn't a straight forward question to answer, but
>I've looked at many reviews etc and I'm stuck which way to go.
>
>Anyway, I'm looking to buy my first digital SLR to learn with (not done
>much SLR photography so far) and I've got a list of 4 cameras that
>interest me, but not sure which way to go. As stated, I've read the
>reviews and each one has its own set of pros and cons, so I'd be
>interested in any advice from peeps in the know.
>
>Cameras of interest:
>
>Canon EOS 350D
>Canon EOS 400D
>Nikon D40
>Nikon D50
>
>I am currently looking at the camera/lens packages, although most of
>the reviews say the lenses aren't as good as they could be.
>
>So, which way to go?
>
>Thanks for reading,
>B
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"Yahoo" <want.2.b.anon DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
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> I have had several Canon digital cameras and decided to move to a
> DSLR. I spend time browsing this forum to see if the new Canon Rebel
> XTi (400D) would be good for me. I ended up buying it last week and
> am getting some great shots.
>
> http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/forum.asp?forum=1031
>
>
>
>
> bob.binz.ut DeleteThis @googlemail.com wrote:
>
> >Hi Guys, I know this isn't a straight forward question to answer, but
> >I've looked at many reviews etc and I'm stuck which way to go.
> >
> >Anyway, I'm looking to buy my first digital SLR to learn with (not done
> >much SLR photography so far) and I've got a list of 4 cameras that
> >interest me, but not sure which way to go. As stated, I've read the
> >reviews and each one has its own set of pros and cons, so I'd be
> >interested in any advice from peeps in the know.
> >
> >Cameras of interest:
> >
> >Canon EOS 350D
> >Canon EOS 400D
> >Nikon D40
> >Nikon D50
> >
> >I am currently looking at the camera/lens packages, although most of
> >the reviews say the lenses aren't as good as they could be.
> >
> >So, which way to go?
> >


As far as I gathered, 400D has slightly better IQ than D80, has access to
better lenses, and is also cheaper. The D80 has a more professional feel
though and also has better viewfinder. So, the 400D takes better pictures,
but the D80 is a better camera ~ so the arguments run to such an illogical
conclusion... Take either that you like in the shop and know that you ain't
missed much in choosing one over the other.
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Yahoo wrote:
> I have had several Canon digital cameras and decided to move to a
> DSLR. I spend time browsing this forum to see if the new Canon Rebel
> XTi (400D) would be good for me. I ended up buying it last week and
> am getting some great shots.
>
> http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/forum.asp?forum=1031
>
>
>
>

That's a lesson in how to buy a camera.
Read, study, get a firm grip on what you want the camera to do.
Find several models you think will fill your bill, then ask for user
experiences.
Then make your choice.

That usually results in being satisfied with the purchase. Now, just
show us some of YOUR shots.
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MichaelM wrote:
> "Yahoo" <want.2.b.anon RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:ega6n29uqgke2mr15jce4q0utc2d2tkita@4ax.com...
>> I have had several Canon digital cameras and decided to move to a
>> DSLR. I spend time browsing this forum to see if the new Canon Rebel
>> XTi (400D) would be good for me. I ended up buying it last week and
>> am getting some great shots.
>>
>> http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/forum.asp?forum=1031
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> bob.binz.ut RemoveThis @googlemail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Guys, I know this isn't a straight forward question to answer, but
>>> I've looked at many reviews etc and I'm stuck which way to go.
>>>
>>> Anyway, I'm looking to buy my first digital SLR to learn with (not done
>>> much SLR photography so far) and I've got a list of 4 cameras that
>>> interest me, but not sure which way to go. As stated, I've read the
>>> reviews and each one has its own set of pros and cons, so I'd be
>>> interested in any advice from peeps in the know.
>>>
>>> Cameras of interest:
>>>
>>> Canon EOS 350D
>>> Canon EOS 400D
>>> Nikon D40
>>> Nikon D50
>>>
>>> I am currently looking at the camera/lens packages, although most of
>>> the reviews say the lenses aren't as good as they could be.
>>>
>>> So, which way to go?
>>>
>
>
> As far as I gathered, 400D has slightly better IQ than D80, has access to
> better lenses, and is also cheaper. The D80 has a more professional feel
> though and also has better viewfinder. So, the 400D takes better pictures,
> but the D80 is a better camera ~ so the arguments run to such an illogical
> conclusion... Take either that you like in the shop and know that you ain't
> missed much in choosing one over the other.
>

Since the purpose of a camera is to take good pictures, I would conclude
that the camera that takes the better pictures is the better camera,
regardless of such factors as 'professional feel', which probably
relates more to weight than functionality.
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> MichaelM wrote:
> > "Yahoo" <want.2.b.anon DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:ega6n29uqgke2mr15jce4q0utc2d2tkita@4ax.com...
> >> I have had several Canon digital cameras and decided to move to a
> >> DSLR. I spend time browsing this forum to see if the new Canon Rebel
> >> XTi (400D) would be good for me. I ended up buying it last week and
> >> am getting some great shots.
> >>
> >> http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/forum.asp?forum=1031
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> bob.binz.ut DeleteThis @googlemail.com wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi Guys, I know this isn't a straight forward question to answer, but
> >>> I've looked at many reviews etc and I'm stuck which way to go.
> >>>
> >>> Anyway, I'm looking to buy my first digital SLR to learn with (not
done
> >>> much SLR photography so far) and I've got a list of 4 cameras that
> >>> interest me, but not sure which way to go. As stated, I've read the
> >>> reviews and each one has its own set of pros and cons, so I'd be
> >>> interested in any advice from peeps in the know.
> >>>
> >>> Cameras of interest:
> >>>
> >>> Canon EOS 350D
> >>> Canon EOS 400D
> >>> Nikon D40
> >>> Nikon D50
> >>>
> >>> I am currently looking at the camera/lens packages, although most of
> >>> the reviews say the lenses aren't as good as they could be.
> >>>
> >>> So, which way to go?
> >>>
> >
> >
> > As far as I gathered, 400D has slightly better IQ than D80, has access
to
> > better lenses, and is also cheaper. The D80 has a more professional
feel
> > though and also has better viewfinder. So, the 400D takes better
pictures,
> > but the D80 is a better camera ~ so the arguments run to such an
illogical
> > conclusion... Take either that you like in the shop and know that you
ain't
> > missed much in choosing one over the other.
> >
>
> Since the purpose of a camera is to take good pictures, I would conclude
> that the camera that takes the better pictures is the better camera,
> regardless of such factors as 'professional feel', which probably
> relates more to weight than functionality.

My sentiments too. I have felt the so called "unprofessional" 400D, and
didn't have the hand pains etc. that are allegedly this camera's undoing.
Once you know how to hold the camera properly, there is no significant issue
regarding the so-called ergonomics of the 400D. I suppose that if you can't
belittle its image quality or its functionality, then the ergonomics /
subjective thinking is the only avenue left. For over 100 quid cheaper than
the D80, that viewfinder of the D80 is a very expenive bit of glass!
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"MichaelM" <directlyover.RemoveThis@centreofearth.com> wrote in message
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>
> My sentiments too. I have felt the so called "unprofessional" 400D,
> and
> didn't have the hand pains etc. that are allegedly this camera's
> undoing.
> Once you know how to hold the camera properly, there is no
> significant issue
> regarding the so-called ergonomics of the 400D. I suppose that if
> you can't
> belittle its image quality or its functionality, then the ergonomics
> /
> subjective thinking is the only avenue left. For over 100 quid
> cheaper than
> the D80, that viewfinder of the D80 is a very expenive bit of glass!


Since I have owned both the Rebel XT/350D and Nikon D80, I believe I'm
somewhat qualified to comment on this topic.

The Canon has great image quality, no one will deny that, and it's the
reason I bought it over the $500 more expensive (at the time) 20D
model. At first I liked the smaller size and lightweight, but as I
used the camera more and more, and with larger lenses, the handling
and ergonomics started to take a toll. I have a pro friend who uses
Nikon, and after borrowing his D70s one day, I realized again that
handling makes a big difference, at least to a frequent user like
myself.

After a short while, I grew to dislike the small grip on the little
Rebel series. At first I thought it was just the ergonomics of the
Nikon - my finger fell right on the shutter button, and using the
control dials was easier and more logical. But then I pulled out my
trusty old Canon 3 and Elan IIe to sell, and when checking them out, I
realized what I had been missing with the tiny Rebel - comfortable
handling.

So nearly two years later when a friend showed interest in my Canon XT
gear, and bought it all, I couldn't resist. I jumped all over the
Nikon D80 with its larger viewfinder, better handling, better
ergonomics, more features, more direct controls, faster response time,
better flash system, better LCD display, more customization, and so
on.

The difference isn't just the viewfinder - it's like the difference
between a consumer camera and a semi-pro model that feels right. I'm
not knocking the XT/i models, they take great pictures and have a lot
to offer in a small reasonably priced package. Heck, Canon still has a
slight edge in silky smooth image quality, even at ISO 100, although
the Nikon is no slouch.

But if you're more advanced than a casual user looking to move into
SLR territory, the Nikon D80 has a LOT more to offer than just a nice
viewfinder. It's the camera I wanted two years ago when I moved to
digital, but my choices were limited back then. Today it's a different
story, and the D80 is what I would recommend to anyone who doesn't
already own Canon lenses.

Of course, that's just me. YMMV.


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