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Tony Gartshore

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 11:56 am
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Is there any appreciable difference in quality/performance/colour shift
etc between the Hoya Super HMC Pro and the B&W Slim MRC versions ?

Prices are pretty similar..

To go on a Canon 24-105 L if that makes any difference..

T.

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Phil Wheeler

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 11:56 am
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Tony Gartshore wrote:
> Is there any appreciable difference in quality/performance/colour shift
> etc between the Hoya Super HMC Pro and the B&W Slim MRC versions ?
>
> Prices are pretty similar..
>
> To go on a Canon 24-105 L if that makes any difference..
>

I think that is B+W. Quality of the models above
should be similar. Slim model may be better for
vignetting if an issue with that lens .. but may
not have front threads.

Phil

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Ken Lucke

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 11:56 am
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In article <4597db1a$0$7739$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>, Phil Wheeler
<wt6uh-ng7.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Tony Gartshore wrote:
> > Is there any appreciable difference in quality/performance/colour shift
> > etc between the Hoya Super HMC Pro and the B&W Slim MRC versions ?
> >
> > Prices are pretty similar..
> >
> > To go on a Canon 24-105 L if that makes any difference..
> >
>
> I think that is B+W. Quality of the models above
> should be similar. Slim model may be better for
> vignetting if an issue with that lens .. but may
> not have front threads.

I use a standard B+W on my 24-105L, and I get no vignetting.

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Tony Gartshore

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 2:57 pm
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In article <4597db1a$0$7739$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>, wt6uh-ng7
@yahoo.com says...
>
> I think that is B+W. Quality of the models above
> should be similar. Slim model may be better for
> vignetting if an issue with that lens .. but may
> not have front threads.
>

Indeed B + W Phil.. Smile

Not sure if front threads would be an issue or not.. Hood mounts onto
onto outside of lens barrel and I'm unlikely to want to stack filters.

Worth checking on though.

T.
> Phil
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Rita_Ä_Berkowitz

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 10:22 am
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 10:22 am
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Rita Ä Berkowitz <ritaberk2O04 @aol.com> writes:
> For CPLs stay away from the high-end Hoya as they use a split ring to
> hold the glass element in. The glass has a tendency of falling out at
> the most inopportune time. Stay with B&W if you want superior quality.

What about Nikon? And what's wrong with the cheap ones anyway?
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Ken Lucke

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 10:22 am
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In article <7x64bqdapm.fsf.RemoveThis@ruckus.brouhaha.com>, Paul Rubin
<http://phr.cx@NOSPAM.invalid> wrote:

> Rita Ä Berkowitz <ritaberk2O04 @aol.com> writes:
> > For CPLs stay away from the high-end Hoya as they use a split ring to
> > hold the glass element in. The glass has a tendency of falling out at
> > the most inopportune time. Stay with B&W if you want superior quality.
>
> What about Nikon? And what's wrong with the cheap ones anyway?

Because they're cheap.

They don't make them cheap without compromising somewhere, and your
image quality is factored by the _lowest_ quality glass that it goes
through on the way to the sensor/film.

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"Roger N. Clark

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 12:18 pm
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Paul Rubin wrote:

> Rita Ä Berkowitz <ritaberk2O04 @aol.com> writes:
>
>>For CPLs stay away from the high-end Hoya as they use a split ring to
>>hold the glass element in. The glass has a tendency of falling out at
>>the most inopportune time. Stay with B&W if you want superior quality.
>
>
> What about Nikon? And what's wrong with the cheap ones anyway?

Polarized Light and Evaluating Polarizing Filters
http://www.clarkvision.com/photoinfo/evaluating_polarizing_filters

Roger
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"Roger N. Clark

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 12:22 pm
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Rita Ä Berkowitz wrote:

> For CPLs stay away from the high-end Hoya as they use a split ring to
> hold the glass element in. The glass has a tendency of falling out at
> the most inopportune time. Stay with B&W if you want superior quality.
>
> Rita

I have used Hoya multicoated filters for many years, and have
never had a problem with a split ring coming out, except the
one time I dropped a lens on a rock and the UV filter shattered
and the split ring came out Wink. The lens was unscratched!
(Now I have a spare set of screw threads and split ring.)

Roger
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Rita_Ä_Berkowitz

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(Msg. 10) Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 1:10 pm
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Tony Gartshore

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(Msg. 11) Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 1:56 pm
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In article <12pia0sm9hg7ief RemoveThis @news.supernews.com>, =?iso-8859-15?Q?
Rita_=C4_Berkowitz?= <ritaberk2O04 @aol.com> says...
> Tony Gartshore wrote:
>
> > Is there any appreciable difference in quality/performance/colour
> > shift etc between the Hoya Super HMC Pro and the B&W Slim MRC
> > versions ?
>
> For CPLs stay away from the high-end Hoya as they use a split ring to hold
> the glass element in. The glass has a tendency of falling out at the most
> inopportune time. Stay with B&W if you want superior quality.
>
Thank you..

Not something I had considered I must admit..

T.
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 2:55 pm
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In article <12pijphdr64do42.TakeThisOut@news.supernews.com>, =?iso-8859-1?Q?Rita_=C4
_Berkowitz?= <ritaberk2O04 @aol.com> says...
> Paul Rubin wrote:
>
> > Rita Ä Berkowitz <ritaberk2O04 @aol.com> writes:
> >> For CPLs stay away from the high-end Hoya as they use a split ring to
> >> hold the glass element in. The glass has a tendency of falling out
> >> at the most inopportune time. Stay with B&W if you want superior
> >> quality.
> >
> > What about Nikon? And what's wrong with the cheap ones anyway?
>
> I haven't used a Nikon CPL so I can't comment on its build quality. I guess
> he could use a cheap Hoya since the glass is going to fall out anyway.
>
Having shelled out for Canon 'L' glass why would I be interested in
saving a few quid on a cheap CPL ?

Or are the Hoya Pro and B+W multicoated jobs regarded as cheap ?

T.
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> Rita
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 2:55 pm
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In article <MPG.2003606ee20667319897cb DeleteThis @news.plus.net>, Tony Gartshore
<me DeleteThis @none.com> wrote:

> In article <12pijphdr64do42 DeleteThis @news.supernews.com>, =?iso-8859-1?Q?Rita_=C4
> _Berkowitz?= <ritaberk2O04 @aol.com> says...
> > Paul Rubin wrote:
> >
> > > Rita Ä Berkowitz <ritaberk2O04 @aol.com> writes:
> > >> For CPLs stay away from the high-end Hoya as they use a split ring to
> > >> hold the glass element in. The glass has a tendency of falling out
> > >> at the most inopportune time. Stay with B&W if you want superior
> > >> quality.
> > >
> > > What about Nikon? And what's wrong with the cheap ones anyway?
> >
> > I haven't used a Nikon CPL so I can't comment on its build quality. I guess
> > he could use a cheap Hoya since the glass is going to fall out anyway.
> >
> Having shelled out for Canon 'L' glass why would I be interested in
> saving a few quid on a cheap CPL ?
>
> Or are the Hoya Pro and B+W multicoated jobs regarded as cheap ?
>
> T.

No.

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