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Since: Mar 12, 2006 Posts: 46
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 11:56 am
Post subject: CPL filters, B&W or Hoya ? Archived from groups: rec>photo>digital (more info?)
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Is there any appreciable difference in quality/performance/colour shift
etc between the Hoya Super HMC Pro and the B&W Slim MRC versions ?
Prices are pretty similar..
To go on a Canon 24-105 L if that makes any difference..
T. >> Stay informed about: CPL filters, B&W or Hoya ? |
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Since: Sep 19, 2006 Posts: 298
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 11:56 am
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Tony Gartshore wrote:
> Is there any appreciable difference in quality/performance/colour shift
> etc between the Hoya Super HMC Pro and the B&W Slim MRC versions ?
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> Prices are pretty similar..
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> To go on a Canon 24-105 L if that makes any difference..
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I think that is B+W. Quality of the models above
should be similar. Slim model may be better for
vignetting if an issue with that lens .. but may
not have front threads.
Phil >> Stay informed about: CPL filters, B&W or Hoya ? |
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Since: Sep 24, 2006 Posts: 432
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 11:56 am
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In article <4597db1a$0$7739$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>, Phil Wheeler
<wt6uh-ng7.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Tony Gartshore wrote:
> > Is there any appreciable difference in quality/performance/colour shift
> > etc between the Hoya Super HMC Pro and the B&W Slim MRC versions ?
> >
> > Prices are pretty similar..
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> > To go on a Canon 24-105 L if that makes any difference..
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> I think that is B+W. Quality of the models above
> should be similar. Slim model may be better for
> vignetting if an issue with that lens .. but may
> not have front threads.
I use a standard B+W on my 24-105L, and I get no vignetting.
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Since: Mar 12, 2006 Posts: 46
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 2:57 pm
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In article <4597db1a$0$7739$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>, wt6uh-ng7
@yahoo.com says...
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> I think that is B+W. Quality of the models above
> should be similar. Slim model may be better for
> vignetting if an issue with that lens .. but may
> not have front threads.
>
Indeed B + W Phil..
Not sure if front threads would be an issue or not.. Hood mounts onto
onto outside of lens barrel and I'm unlikely to want to stack filters.
Worth checking on though.
T.
> Phil
> >> Stay informed about: CPL filters, B&W or Hoya ? |
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Since: Apr 16, 2006 Posts: 1035
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 10:22 am
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Since: Nov 23, 2005 Posts: 1029
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 10:22 am
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Rita Ä Berkowitz <ritaberk2O04 @aol.com> writes:
> For CPLs stay away from the high-end Hoya as they use a split ring to
> hold the glass element in. The glass has a tendency of falling out at
> the most inopportune time. Stay with B&W if you want superior quality.
What about Nikon? And what's wrong with the cheap ones anyway? >> Stay informed about: CPL filters, B&W or Hoya ? |
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Since: Sep 24, 2006 Posts: 432
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 10:22 am
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In article <7x64bqdapm.fsf.RemoveThis@ruckus.brouhaha.com>, Paul Rubin
<http://phr.cx@NOSPAM.invalid> wrote:
> Rita Ä Berkowitz <ritaberk2O04 @aol.com> writes:
> > For CPLs stay away from the high-end Hoya as they use a split ring to
> > hold the glass element in. The glass has a tendency of falling out at
> > the most inopportune time. Stay with B&W if you want superior quality.
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> What about Nikon? And what's wrong with the cheap ones anyway?
Because they're cheap.
They don't make them cheap without compromising somewhere, and your
image quality is factored by the _lowest_ quality glass that it goes
through on the way to the sensor/film.
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reputation as a dangerous citizen these days is to go about repeating
the very phrases which our founding fathers used in the struggle for
independence.
-- Charles A. Beard >> Stay informed about: CPL filters, B&W or Hoya ? |
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Since: Oct 04, 2005 Posts: 833
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 12:18 pm
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Since: Oct 04, 2005 Posts: 833
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 12:22 pm
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Rita Ä Berkowitz wrote:
> For CPLs stay away from the high-end Hoya as they use a split ring to
> hold the glass element in. The glass has a tendency of falling out at
> the most inopportune time. Stay with B&W if you want superior quality.
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> Rita
I have used Hoya multicoated filters for many years, and have
never had a problem with a split ring coming out, except the
one time I dropped a lens on a rock and the UV filter shattered
and the split ring came out  . The lens was unscratched!
(Now I have a spare set of screw threads and split ring.)
Roger >> Stay informed about: CPL filters, B&W or Hoya ? |
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Since: Apr 16, 2006 Posts: 1035
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 1:10 pm
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Since: Mar 12, 2006 Posts: 46
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 1:56 pm
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In article <12pia0sm9hg7ief RemoveThis @news.supernews.com>, =?iso-8859-15?Q?
Rita_=C4_Berkowitz?= <ritaberk2O04 @aol.com> says...
> Tony Gartshore wrote:
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> > Is there any appreciable difference in quality/performance/colour
> > shift etc between the Hoya Super HMC Pro and the B&W Slim MRC
> > versions ?
>
> For CPLs stay away from the high-end Hoya as they use a split ring to hold
> the glass element in. The glass has a tendency of falling out at the most
> inopportune time. Stay with B&W if you want superior quality.
>
Thank you..
Not something I had considered I must admit..
T. >> Stay informed about: CPL filters, B&W or Hoya ? |
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Since: Mar 12, 2006 Posts: 46
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 2:55 pm
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In article <12pijphdr64do42.TakeThisOut@news.supernews.com>, =?iso-8859-1?Q?Rita_=C4
_Berkowitz?= <ritaberk2O04 @aol.com> says...
> Paul Rubin wrote:
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> > Rita Ä Berkowitz <ritaberk2O04 @aol.com> writes:
> >> For CPLs stay away from the high-end Hoya as they use a split ring to
> >> hold the glass element in. The glass has a tendency of falling out
> >> at the most inopportune time. Stay with B&W if you want superior
> >> quality.
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> > What about Nikon? And what's wrong with the cheap ones anyway?
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> I haven't used a Nikon CPL so I can't comment on its build quality. I guess
> he could use a cheap Hoya since the glass is going to fall out anyway.
>
Having shelled out for Canon 'L' glass why would I be interested in
saving a few quid on a cheap CPL ?
Or are the Hoya Pro and B+W multicoated jobs regarded as cheap ?
T.
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Since: Apr 16, 2006 Posts: 1035
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 2:55 pm
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Since: Sep 24, 2006 Posts: 432
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 2:55 pm
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In article <MPG.2003606ee20667319897cb DeleteThis @news.plus.net>, Tony Gartshore
<me DeleteThis @none.com> wrote:
> In article <12pijphdr64do42 DeleteThis @news.supernews.com>, =?iso-8859-1?Q?Rita_=C4
> _Berkowitz?= <ritaberk2O04 @aol.com> says...
> > Paul Rubin wrote:
> >
> > > Rita Ä Berkowitz <ritaberk2O04 @aol.com> writes:
> > >> For CPLs stay away from the high-end Hoya as they use a split ring to
> > >> hold the glass element in. The glass has a tendency of falling out
> > >> at the most inopportune time. Stay with B&W if you want superior
> > >> quality.
> > >
> > > What about Nikon? And what's wrong with the cheap ones anyway?
> >
> > I haven't used a Nikon CPL so I can't comment on its build quality. I guess
> > he could use a cheap Hoya since the glass is going to fall out anyway.
> >
> Having shelled out for Canon 'L' glass why would I be interested in
> saving a few quid on a cheap CPL ?
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> Or are the Hoya Pro and B+W multicoated jobs regarded as cheap ?
>
> T.
No.
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reputation as a dangerous citizen these days is to go about repeating
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 2:55 pm
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