is a CF card necessary for a Canon Digital Rebel?

<cali4niachef DeleteThis @msn.com> wrote in message
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>i just bought a new Rebel XTI and from the user manual i understand
> that it is NOT necessary to use a CF card. i adjusted my settings
> accordingly and tried to use my Rebel without the CF card and it told
> me that i had to insert a CF card. i inserted a CF card from my old
> digital camera, formated it and then i was able to take pictures.
> since it was an older smaller CF card it only took 3 pictures. i
> understand that i need a 2GB or higher CF card.
>
> can anyone explain to me how to use the Rebel without a CF card and if
> you can how are the pictures stored?
>
> thanks!
>
> ~ CINDy
>
You can't actually capture images without a CF card, but you can set it to
shoot without a card, it's in the menu in the "red" image related section on
my 5D, on my daughter's XT, it's in the first yellow section, at the bottom,
I'm not sure where it is on yours. It's called, "shoot w/o card." All it's
really good for is checking settings, or playing around, since you can't,
like I said, capture an image without a card.

--
Skip Middleton
www.shadowcatcherimagery.com
www.pbase.com/skipm
 >> Stay informed about: is a CF card necessary for a Canon Digital Rebel? 

On Mar 29, 10:21 pm, "Mark²" <mjmorgan(lowest even number
here)@cox..net> wrote:
> cali4niac....DeleteThis@msn.com wrote:
> > i just bought a new Rebel XTI and from the user manual i understand
> > that it is NOT necessary to use a CF card. i adjusted my settings
> > accordingly and tried to use my Rebel without the CF card and it told
> > me that i had to insert a CF card. i inserted a CF card from my old
> > digital camera, formated it and then i was able to take pictures.
> > since it was an older smaller CF card it only took 3 pictures. i
> > understand that i need a 2GB or higher CF card.
>
> > can anyone explain to me how to use the Rebel without a CF card and if
> > you can how are the pictures stored?
>
> > thanks!
>
> Just in case you aren't a troll, and this is a real question...
> The CF card is the sole means of storing images. There are no practical
> alternatives. You can use any size CF card up to at least 4GB. Read the
> manual again.
>
> If you are simply trolling... Go away.
> --
> Images (Plus Snaps & Grabs) by Mark² at:
> www.pbase.com/markuson

no i am not a troll. why would you think i am? i know what the purpose
of a CF card is. my first digital camera required one.

i asked about the CF card because in the manual it says you can
operate it without a CF card if you wish, however it does not explain
what other device you could use to store the images.
 >> Stay informed about: is a CF card necessary for a Canon Digital Rebel? 

On Mar 29, 11:36 pm, cali4niac....TakeThisOut@msn.com wrote:
> On Mar 29, 10:21 pm, "Mark²" <mjmorgan(lowest even number
>
>
>
>
>
> here)@cox..net> wrote:
> > cali4niac....TakeThisOut@msn.com wrote:
> > > i just bought a new Rebel XTI and from the user manual i understand
> > > that it is NOT necessary to use a CF card. i adjusted my settings
> > > accordingly and tried to use my Rebel without the CF card and it told
> > > me that i had to insert a CF card. i inserted a CF card from my old
> > > digital camera, formated it and then i was able to take pictures.
> > > since it was an older smaller CF card it only took 3 pictures. i
> > > understand that i need a 2GB or higher CF card.
>
> > > can anyone explain to me how to use the Rebel without a CF card and if
> > > you can how are the pictures stored?
>
> > > thanks!
>
> > Just in case you aren't a troll, and this is a real question...
> > The CF card is the sole means of storing images. There are no practical
> > alternatives. You can use any size CF card up to at least 4GB. Read the
> > manual again.
>
> > If you are simply trolling... Go away.
> > --
> > Images (Plus Snaps & Grabs) by Mark² at:
> > www.pbase.com/markuson
>
> no i am not a troll. why would you think i am? i know what the purpose
> of a CF card is. my first digital camera required one.
>
> i asked about the CF card because in the manual it says you can
> operate it without a CF card if you wish, however it does not explain
> what other device you could use to store the images.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Im not familar with the rebel but in my experience some cameras have
very limited on board memory cards. I would not count on it as a means
to circumvent getting a good cf card. Usually the on board cards only
get you a few megs so your default settings for the camera probable
consumed more memory than the on board card could hold. If you put
your camera in the lowest resolution its capable of I be you could
take a picture or two.

Earl
 >> Stay informed about: is a CF card necessary for a Canon Digital Rebel? 

cali4niachef DeleteThis @msn.com wrote:
> On Mar 29, 10:21 pm, "Mark²" <mjmorgan(lowest even number
> here)@cox..net> wrote:
>> cali4niac... DeleteThis @msn.com wrote:
>>> i just bought a new Rebel XTI and from the user manual i understand
>>> that it is NOT necessary to use a CF card. i adjusted my settings
>>> accordingly and tried to use my Rebel without the CF card and it
>>> told me that i had to insert a CF card. i inserted a CF card from
>>> my old digital camera, formated it and then i was able to take
>>> pictures. since it was an older smaller CF card it only took 3
>>> pictures. i understand that i need a 2GB or higher CF card.
>>
>>> can anyone explain to me how to use the Rebel without a CF card and
>>> if you can how are the pictures stored?
>>
>>> thanks!
>>
>> Just in case you aren't a troll, and this is a real question...
>> The CF card is the sole means of storing images. There are no
>> practical alternatives. You can use any size CF card up to at least
>> 4GB. Read the manual again.
>>
>> If you are simply trolling... Go away.
>> --
>> Images (Plus Snaps & Grabs) by Mark² at:
>> www.pbase.com/markuson
>
> no i am not a troll. why would you think i am?

Sorry about the question. It's just that there are folks who deliberately
ask these sorts of questions from time to time just for the heck of it...

>i know what the purpose
> of a CF card is. my first digital camera required one.
>
> i asked about the CF card because in the manual it says you can
> operate it without a CF card if you wish, however it does not explain
> what other device you could use to store the images.

Here's the deal with that: It gives you the option of telling the camera to
refuse to operate if there is no CF card...but this will NOT record images
in any way. They allow it to operate without a card so that you can test
the camera...clean the sensor...check the shutter mechanism, etc., but it
will not...and indeed CANNOT record any images without a CF card. No
serious DSLR that I'm aware of is designed to do so... The reason some
choose to set it to NOT operate at all without a CF is that some folks might
make the mistake of shooting away...not realizing that they have no card in
it, and are therefore wasting their time thinking they're saving their
shots...when they aren't. It's akin to film days...when you suddenly
realize you've been shooting without any film in the camera(!) which has
likely happened to everyone at least once, back "in the day..."

So... No. You have no option here but to use a CF card. 2GB cards can be
had for less than $20 with a rebate. Just last week I was at Fry's and they
had 2GB cards that cost a mere $7.99 after a $15 dollar rebate. Memory
cards are extraordinarily cheap these days. Amazing, really.

-Mark²

--
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www.pbase.com/markuson
 >> Stay informed about: is a CF card necessary for a Canon Digital Rebel? 

cali4niachef RemoveThis @msn.com wrote:
> i just bought a new Rebel XTI and from the user manual i understand
> that it is NOT necessary to use a CF card. i adjusted my settings
> accordingly and tried to use my Rebel without the CF card and it told
> me that i had to insert a CF card. i inserted a CF card from my old
> digital camera, formated it and then i was able to take pictures.
> since it was an older smaller CF card it only took 3 pictures. i
> understand that i need a 2GB or higher CF card.
>
> can anyone explain to me how to use the Rebel without a CF card and if
> you can how are the pictures stored?

The only concievable way to use it without a memory card would be
tethered to a computer by a USB cable.

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--John
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(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)
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On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 23:41:29 -0400, "J. Clarke"
<jclarke.usenet RemoveThis @cox.net> wrote:

>cali4niachef@msn.com wrote:
>> i just bought a new Rebel XTI and from the user manual i understand
>> that it is NOT necessary to use a CF card. i adjusted my settings
>> accordingly and tried to use my Rebel without the CF card and it told
>> me that i had to insert a CF card. i inserted a CF card from my old
>> digital camera, formated it and then i was able to take pictures.
>> since it was an older smaller CF card it only took 3 pictures. i
>> understand that i need a 2GB or higher CF card.
>>
>> can anyone explain to me how to use the Rebel without a CF card and if
>> you can how are the pictures stored?
>
>The only concievable way to use it without a memory card would be
>tethered to a computer by a USB cable.
>
>--

....and I think the software on the CD has the program for doing this.

Brian
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>
> no i am not a troll. why would you think i am? i know what the purpose
> of a CF card is. my first digital camera required one.
>
> i asked about the CF card because in the manual it says you can
> operate it without a CF card if you wish, however it does not explain
> what other device you could use to store the images.

Seems like an entirely reasonable question to me. I guess it might be
possible to 'operate it without a card' as long as the 'operation' does
not include taking photos. BTW there are some cameras, e.g. Kodak P850,
with enough memory on board to take several photos and store the images on
internal memory without having a card present - does not seem to me to be
a very useful method of operation, except possibly for initial checkout.
 >> Stay informed about: is a CF card necessary for a Canon Digital Rebel? 

? <cali4niachef.RemoveThis@msn.com> ?????? ??? ??????
news:1175222444.815480.269680@r56g2000hsd.googlegroups.com...
> i just bought a new Rebel XTI and from the user manual i understand
> that it is NOT necessary to use a CF card. i adjusted my settings
> accordingly and tried to use my Rebel without the CF card and it told
> me that i had to insert a CF card. i inserted a CF card from my old
> digital camera, formated it and then i was able to take pictures.
> since it was an older smaller CF card it only took 3 pictures. i
> understand that i need a 2GB or higher CF card.
>
> can anyone explain to me how to use the Rebel without a CF card and if
> you can how are the pictures stored?
>
> thanks!
>
It's absolutely necessary to have a CF card-it's akin to the film of an "old
school"SLR.The internal memory that all cameras have is more a buffer than a
target memory-an intermediate storing medium,temporary, with the final
storage medium always being a card.Even if you have a 1.2 MP P&S like the
Canon A1 (or whatever) it writes clearly on screen (Insert CF card) when you
shoot without.


--
Tzortzakakis Dimitrios
major in electrical engineering
mechanized infantry reservist
dimtzort AT otenet DOT gr
 >> Stay informed about: is a CF card necessary for a Canon Digital Rebel? 

In article <1175222444.815480.269680.RemoveThis@r56g2000hsd.googlegroups.com>,
<cali4niachef.RemoveThis@msn.com> wrote:

> i just bought a new Rebel XTI and from the user manual i understand
> that it is NOT necessary to use a CF card. i adjusted my settings
> accordingly and tried to use my Rebel without the CF card and it told
> me that i had to insert a CF card. i inserted a CF card from my old
> digital camera, formated it and then i was able to take pictures.

RTFM. Again.

> can anyone explain to me how to use the Rebel without a CF card and if
> you can how are the pictures stored?

It clearly states that you have to use a memory card. It allows you
select the setting to shoot without a card ONLY to allow you to do
things like use the cammera tethered to a computer, test the functions,
etc. The cammera has no internal memory for pictures, clearly states
so in the manual, and I have no idea where you got the idea that it
said otherwise.

> since it was an older smaller CF card it only took 3 pictures. i
> understand that i need a 2GB or higher CF card.

No, you don't need a 2 GB or larger card. It will work with ANY CF or
CFII card. The only difference is the number of pictures you can take,
which also depends on whether you are shooting .jpegs or raw (or both)
and/or what size .jpegs you have it set to shoot.

--
You need only reflect that one of the best ways to get yourself a
reputation as a dangerous citizen these days is to go about repeating
the very phrases which our founding fathers used in the struggle for
independence.
-- Charles A. Beard
 >> Stay informed about: is a CF card necessary for a Canon Digital Rebel? 

In article <tw1Ph.84763$ZA5.67009@newsfe15.phx>, Mark² <
here)@cox..net> wrote:

> cali4niachef DeleteThis @msn.com wrote:
> > On Mar 29, 10:21 pm, "Mark²" <mjmorgan(lowest even number
> > here)@cox..net> wrote:
> >> cali4niac... DeleteThis @msn.com wrote:
> >>> i just bought a new Rebel XTI and from the user manual i understand
> >>> that it is NOT necessary to use a CF card. i adjusted my settings
> >>> accordingly and tried to use my Rebel without the CF card and it
> >>> told me that i had to insert a CF card. i inserted a CF card from
> >>> my old digital camera, formated it and then i was able to take
> >>> pictures. since it was an older smaller CF card it only took 3
> >>> pictures. i understand that i need a 2GB or higher CF card.
> >>
> >>> can anyone explain to me how to use the Rebel without a CF card and
> >>> if you can how are the pictures stored?
> >>
> >>> thanks!
> >>
> >> Just in case you aren't a troll, and this is a real question...
> >> The CF card is the sole means of storing images. There are no
> >> practical alternatives. You can use any size CF card up to at least
> >> 4GB. Read the manual again.
> >>
> >> If you are simply trolling... Go away.
> >> --
> >> Images (Plus Snaps & Grabs) by Mark² at:
> >> www.pbase.com/markuson
> >
> > no i am not a troll. why would you think i am?
>
> Sorry about the question. It's just that there are folks who deliberately
> ask these sorts of questions from time to time just for the heck of it...


<rant mode on>
What *I* don't understand about this type of post, when geniune, is why
people buy as complicated a piece of equipment as a DSLR and then
refuse to thoroughly read and understand the manual, expecting others
to come to their rescue with information that they already have on
hand????

We see it here (and everywhere else, for that matter) on a semi-weekly
basis [at least] - people coming in and asking hand-holding questions
(for all sorts of equipment) that their manuals clearly cover, or at
most a simple googling would turn up tons of info on.

Don't get me wrong - I don't have the slightest issue with questions
that are not covered in the manual, or go beyond (or beneath) the
manual's information, because we all had to learn the very basics at
some time. Sharing the non-basic information is a pleasure - requoting
(or watching others requote) the manual continually is irritating.

Ignorance [i.e., a simple lack of knowledge] of the basics is not bad,
nor stupid*, but the very basics ARE covered in the manuals that come
with the equipment - ignorance of those contents is NOT excusable.
It's the refusal to read (and sometimes even to accept) the manual's
information that gets my goat. ::mb-a-a-a-a-ahhhh::

Which is why, sometimes, some of us reply snorkily to some of these
posts - because we're tired of week after week somebody coming in and
asking the same questions that their manuals aready cover, or wanting
to argue with the manual ("It says you can" No, it doesn't. Read it
again. "It should let you..." Well, it doesn't. Deal).
</rant>


*(one of my favorite sayings: "Ignorance can be fixed, but stupidity is
forever")

--
You need only reflect that one of the best ways to get yourself a
reputation as a dangerous citizen these days is to go about repeating
the very phrases which our founding fathers used in the struggle for
independence.
-- Charles A. Beard
 >> Stay informed about: is a CF card necessary for a Canon Digital Rebel? 

Ken Lucke wrote:
> In article <tw1Ph.84763$ZA5.67009@newsfe15.phx>, Mark² <
> here)@cox..net> wrote:
>
>> cali4niachef.TakeThisOut@msn.com wrote:
>>> On Mar 29, 10:21 pm, "Mark²" <mjmorgan(lowest even number
>>> here)@cox..net> wrote:
>>>> cali4niac....TakeThisOut@msn.com wrote:
>>>>> i just bought a new Rebel XTI and from the user manual i
>>>>> understand that it is NOT necessary to use a CF card. i adjusted
>>>>> my settings accordingly and tried to use my Rebel without the CF
>>>>> card and it told me that i had to insert a CF card. i inserted a
>>>>> CF card from my old digital camera, formated it and then i was
>>>>> able to take pictures. since it was an older smaller CF card it
>>>>> only took 3 pictures. i understand that i need a 2GB or higher
>>>>> CF
>>>>> card.
>>>>
>>>>> can anyone explain to me how to use the Rebel without a CF card
>>>>> and if you can how are the pictures stored?
>>>>
>>>>> thanks!
>>>>
>>>> Just in case you aren't a troll, and this is a real question...
>>>> The CF card is the sole means of storing images. There are no
>>>> practical alternatives. You can use any size CF card up to at
>>>> least 4GB. Read the manual again.
>>>>
>>>> If you are simply trolling... Go away.
>>>> --
>>>> Images (Plus Snaps & Grabs) by Mark² at:
>>>> www.pbase.com/markuson
>>>
>>> no i am not a troll. why would you think i am?
>>
>> Sorry about the question. It's just that there are folks who
>> deliberately ask these sorts of questions from time to time just
>> for
>> the heck of it...
>
>
> <rant mode on>
> What *I* don't understand about this type of post, when geniune, is
> why people buy as complicated a piece of equipment as a DSLR and
> then
> refuse to thoroughly read and understand the manual, expecting
> others
> to come to their rescue with information that they already have on
> hand????
>
> We see it here (and everywhere else, for that matter) on a
> semi-weekly
> basis [at least] - people coming in and asking hand-holding
> questions
> (for all sorts of equipment) that their manuals clearly cover, or at
> most a simple googling would turn up tons of info on.
>
> Don't get me wrong - I don't have the slightest issue with questions
> that are not covered in the manual, or go beyond (or beneath) the
> manual's information, because we all had to learn the very basics at
> some time. Sharing the non-basic information is a pleasure -
> requoting (or watching others requote) the manual continually is
> irritating.
>
> Ignorance [i.e., a simple lack of knowledge] of the basics is not
> bad,
> nor stupid*, but the very basics ARE covered in the manuals that
> come
> with the equipment - ignorance of those contents is NOT excusable.
> It's the refusal to read (and sometimes even to accept) the manual's
> information that gets my goat. ::mb-a-a-a-a-ahhhh::
>
> Which is why, sometimes, some of us reply snorkily to some of these
> posts - because we're tired of week after week somebody coming in
> and
> asking the same questions that their manuals aready cover, or
> wanting
> to argue with the manual ("It says you can" No, it doesn't. Read
> it
> again. "It should let you..." Well, it doesn't. Deal).
> </rant>
>
>
> *(one of my favorite sayings: "Ignorance can be fixed, but stupidity
> is forever")

What side of the "but" do pompous, pretentious, and arrogant fall on?

--
Frank ess
"All of philosophy consists of unlocking, exhuming,
and recanting what's been said before,
and then getting riled up about it."
-V.S. Ramachandran-
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In article <5NydncvqhYvsPpDbnZ2dnUVZ_syunZ2d.RemoveThis@giganews.com>, Frank ess
<frank.RemoveThis@fshe2fs.com> wrote:

> Ken Lucke wrote:

<snip>

> > <rant mode on>
> > What *I* don't understand about this type of post, when geniune, is
> > why people buy as complicated a piece of equipment as a DSLR and
> > then
> > refuse to thoroughly read and understand the manual, expecting
> > others
> > to come to their rescue with information that they already have on
> > hand????
> >
> > We see it here (and everywhere else, for that matter) on a
> > semi-weekly
> > basis [at least] - people coming in and asking hand-holding
> > questions
> > (for all sorts of equipment) that their manuals clearly cover, or at
> > most a simple googling would turn up tons of info on.
> >
> > Don't get me wrong - I don't have the slightest issue with questions
> > that are not covered in the manual, or go beyond (or beneath) the
> > manual's information, because we all had to learn the very basics at
> > some time. Sharing the non-basic information is a pleasure -
> > requoting (or watching others requote) the manual continually is
> > irritating.
> >
> > Ignorance [i.e., a simple lack of knowledge] of the basics is not
> > bad,
> > nor stupid*, but the very basics ARE covered in the manuals that
> > come
> > with the equipment - ignorance of those contents is NOT excusable.
> > It's the refusal to read (and sometimes even to accept) the manual's
> > information that gets my goat. ::mb-a-a-a-a-ahhhh::
> >
> > Which is why, sometimes, some of us reply snorkily to some of these
> > posts - because we're tired of week after week somebody coming in
> > and
> > asking the same questions that their manuals aready cover, or
> > wanting
> > to argue with the manual ("It says you can" No, it doesn't. Read
> > it
> > again. "It should let you..." Well, it doesn't. Deal).
> > </rant>
> >
> >
> > *(one of my favorite sayings: "Ignorance can be fixed, but stupidity
> > is forever")
>
> What side of the "but" do pompous, pretentious, and arrogant fall on?

Should I take it that you are implying that it's pompous, pretentious
and arrogant to expect people to actually read the manuals [::Gasp!::
::Shudder!:: Horor of Horrors!] that come with their equipment instead
of lazily relying on others to do so for them?

--
You need only reflect that one of the best ways to get yourself a
reputation as a dangerous citizen these days is to go about repeating
the very phrases which our founding fathers used in the struggle for
independence.
-- Charles A. Beard
 >> Stay informed about: is a CF card necessary for a Canon Digital Rebel?