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Snaggy

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 10:17 am
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I'm buying a laptop and need advice for a display.
Max budget around 2000 dollars, pc (not apple mac)... I'll use it
mainly for photography and image editing, it's meant to replace the
desktop therefore I need a good display which can be calibrated
decently.

I know the latest mac displays (led backlit) are quite good on this
side, but as I told you I can't buy a mac.

What about the Dell inspiron 1720 with the High Resolution, glossy
widescreen 17.0 inch display (1920 x 1200)

any suggestion?

bye
luca

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ransley

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 10:38 am
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On Jan 5, 12:17 pm, Snaggy <l.cio....RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm buying a laptop and need advice for a display.
> Max budget around 2000 dollars, pc (not apple mac)... I'll use it
> mainly for photography and image editing, it's meant to replace the
> desktop therefore I need a good display which can be calibrated
> decently.
>
> I know the latest mac displays (led backlit) are quite good on this
> side, but as I told you I can't buy a mac.
>
> What about the Dell inspiron 1720 with the High Resolution, glossy
> widescreen 17.0 inch display (1920 x 1200)
>
> any suggestion?
>
> bye
> luca

I have a dell 17 1920 x 1200, you wont need to calibrate it and the
display is as good as you get except for maybe the Led Lcd but I have
never compared them. What I see on the screen it prints.

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Snaggy

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 11:00 am
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On Jan 5, 7:52 pm, Daniel Silevitch <dmsi....DeleteThis@uchicago.edu> wrote:
> On Sat, 5 Jan 2008 10:17:43 -0800 (PST), Snaggy <l.cio....DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I'm buying a laptop and need advice for a display.
> > Max budget around 2000 dollars, pc (not apple mac)... I'll use it
> > mainly for photography and image editing, it's meant to replace the
> > desktop therefore I need a good display which can be calibrated
> > decently.
>
> > I know the latest mac displays (led backlit) are quite good on this
> > side, but as I told you I can't buy a mac.
>
> > What about the Dell inspiron 1720 with the High Resolution, glossy
> > widescreen 17.0 inch display (1920 x 1200)
>
> Out of curiousity, is your objection to the Mac in the hardware or the
> software? If the latter, a MacBook Pro with XP installed could be an
> option.
>
> -dms

I have no objections personally, i mean I'd love a mac, simply the
person for whom I'm buying this computer won't ever hear of it...
dunno why
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Shawn Hirn

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 4:21 pm
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In article
<9d912129-4de9-4abc-a814-bc0930c570e7.DeleteThis@m77g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>,
Snaggy <l.cioria.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm buying a laptop and need advice for a display.
> Max budget around 2000 dollars, pc (not apple mac)... I'll use it
> mainly for photography and image editing, it's meant to replace the
> desktop therefore I need a good display which can be calibrated
> decently.
>
> I know the latest mac displays (led backlit) are quite good on this
> side, but as I told you I can't buy a mac.
>
> What about the Dell inspiron 1720 with the High Resolution, glossy
> widescreen 17.0 inch display (1920 x 1200)
>
> any suggestion?
>
> bye
> luca

You can use an Apple display on a non-Apple computer if you want, but
why not a Mac? There's a reason why Apple is top in customer service and
customer satisfaction. You would do well to find out why by visiting a
local store that sells Macs.
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Daniel Silevitch

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 6:52 pm
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On Sat, 5 Jan 2008 10:17:43 -0800 (PST), Snaggy <l.cioria DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm buying a laptop and need advice for a display.
> Max budget around 2000 dollars, pc (not apple mac)... I'll use it
> mainly for photography and image editing, it's meant to replace the
> desktop therefore I need a good display which can be calibrated
> decently.
>
> I know the latest mac displays (led backlit) are quite good on this
> side, but as I told you I can't buy a mac.
>
> What about the Dell inspiron 1720 with the High Resolution, glossy
> widescreen 17.0 inch display (1920 x 1200)

Out of curiousity, is your objection to the Mac in the hardware or the
software? If the latter, a MacBook Pro with XP installed could be an
option.

-dms
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Paul Furman

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 7:12 pm
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Snaggy wrote:
> I'm buying a laptop and need advice for a display.
> Max budget around 2000 dollars, pc (not apple mac)... I'll use it
> mainly for photography and image editing, it's meant to replace the
> desktop therefore I need a good display which can be calibrated
> decently.
>
> I know the latest mac displays (led backlit) are quite good on this
> side, but as I told you I can't buy a mac.
>
> What about the Dell inspiron 1720 with the High Resolution, glossy
> widescreen 17.0 inch display (1920 x 1200)
>
> any suggestion?

I ended up with a Sony VGN-FZ285U (15.4" screen 1280x800) when my Dell
workstation died of old age. All the new models have much better
displays: I can actually read this thing outside in the sun. I couldn't
wait longer after a week of downtime trying to fix it & Dell would have
taken a couple weeks custom built for the specs I wanted. My only
complaint is the large but slow hard drive (similar to the dell you are
looking at but not SATA), for photoshop work, it really would be better
to have a faster HD and that's hard to find in an off-the shelf laptop.
I also wanted something with a dedicated video card & lots of RAM, oh
and the wireless card is the latest (none of the othes had that). Plus
what I really would have liked would have been $3,000 at Dell ...you get
more options going through the small buisiness track on their site...
it's good stuff but man that's a lot for a laptop.
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EAL

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 8:29 pm
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On Sat, 5 Jan 2008 10:38:39 -0800 (PST), ransley
<Mark_Ransley.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Jan 5, 12:17 pm, Snaggy <l.cio....RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I'm buying a laptop and need advice for a display.
>> Max budget around 2000 dollars, pc (not apple mac)... I'll use it
>> mainly for photography and image editing, it's meant to replace the
>> desktop therefore I need a good display which can be calibrated
>> decently.
>>
>> I know the latest mac displays (led backlit) are quite good on this
>> side, but as I told you I can't buy a mac.
>>
>> What about the Dell inspiron 1720 with the High Resolution, glossy
>> widescreen 17.0 inch display (1920 x 1200)
>>
>> any suggestion?
>>
>> bye
>> luca
>
>I have a dell 17 1920 x 1200, you wont need to calibrate it and the
>display is as good as you get except for maybe the Led Lcd but I have
>never compared them. What I see on the screen it prints.

Why would anyone buy a widescreen except to watch widescreen movies?
Wide screen means less height, a slit-eyed narrow display. These
displays are cramped vertically. Don't you ever shoot portraits?

Wide can be an advantage for long lines in spreadsheets, but web pages
and most text documents have a vertical presentation and you need
height for that.

Widescreen is an inconvenient fad. Even the new GPS navigators have
wide screens, very unsuitable for maps.

My Lenovo laptop has an SXGA+ screen, which is 1400 x 1050. That's a
great resolution for photos and general use, and I am well pleased
with it, although my old desktop NEC MultiSync FE950+ CRT monitor
looks better and I always use it when I'm home.

Ed
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nospam

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 8:29 pm
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In article <q9pvn3tvjt7gtevch0o12sph6d8ie13tjm.TakeThisOut@4ax.com>, EAL
<EAL.TakeThisOut@fakeISP.com> wrote:

> Why would anyone buy a widescreen except to watch widescreen movies?
> Wide screen means less height, a slit-eyed narrow display. These
> displays are cramped vertically. Don't you ever shoot portraits?

i often shoot portraits, and with a widescreen display, there's plenty
of room for tool palettes or even two images side by side for
comparison purposes. the extra space does not go to waste. plus, one
can always rotate the display into portrait mode.
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timeOday

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 8:29 pm
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nospam wrote:
> In article <q9pvn3tvjt7gtevch0o12sph6d8ie13tjm RemoveThis @4ax.com>, EAL
> <EAL RemoveThis @fakeISP.com> wrote:
>
>> Why would anyone buy a widescreen except to watch widescreen movies?
>> Wide screen means less height, a slit-eyed narrow display. These
>> displays are cramped vertically. Don't you ever shoot portraits?
>
> i often shoot portraits, and with a widescreen display, there's plenty
> of room for tool palettes or even two images side by side for
> comparison purposes. the extra space does not go to waste. plus, one
> can always rotate the display into portrait mode.

The extra space is an advertising myth. A 19" "widescreen" has less
surface area than a 19" 4:3.
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Jürgen Exner

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(Msg. 10) Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 9:01 pm
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EAL <EAL DeleteThis @fakeISP.com> wrote:
>Why would anyone buy a widescreen except to watch widescreen movies?

Very simple: to be able to see two documents side by side for
cross-reference without overlap. Very convenient!

jue
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Gene S. Berkowitz

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(Msg. 11) Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 9:56 pm
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In article <9d912129-4de9-4abc-a814-bc0930c570e7
@m77g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>, l.cioria.RemoveThis@gmail.com says...
> I'm buying a laptop and need advice for a display.
> Max budget around 2000 dollars, pc (not apple mac)... I'll use it
> mainly for photography and image editing, it's meant to replace the
> desktop therefore I need a good display which can be calibrated
> decently.
>
> I know the latest mac displays (led backlit) are quite good on this
> side, but as I told you I can't buy a mac.
>
> What about the Dell inspiron 1720 with the High Resolution, glossy
> widescreen 17.0 inch display (1920 x 1200)
>
> any suggestion?

My $0.02:

Buy a laptop with a smaller ( < 13") display, and put the money saved
towards more RAM. Then, purchase a large flat-panel monitor. Virtually
every laptop can drive an external monitor,
Here's why:

A large (20" or larger), quality flat panel monitor will cost the same
or less than a large-ish (17") display adds to the cost of a laptop.

A checking of the specs will show that most laptops can run the external
display at higher resolution than the built-in display.

If you are serious about image editing, you need as much RAM as the
laptop/OS can use.

Large-display laptops are totally impossible to use when flying in
coach/steerage, as there isn't sufficient room on a tray table (or your
lap) to open it enough to use comfortably.

--Gene
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 9:56 pm
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Gene S. Berkowitz wrote:
> l.cioria.TakeThisOut@gmail.com says...
>
>> What about the Dell inspiron 1720 with the High Resolution, glossy
>> widescreen 17.0 inch display (1920 x 1200)
>>
>> any suggestion?
>
> My $0.02:
>
> Buy a laptop with a smaller ( < 13") display

I wouldn't want to carry bigger than my 14", it makes for a heavy
briefcase, and I do have an old 21" CRT on at home for it.
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 1:25 am
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Jürgen Exner

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(Msg. 14) Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 1:50 am
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timeOday <timeOday-UNSPAM.DeleteThis@theknack.net> wrote:
>A 19" "widescreen" has less
>surface area than a 19" 4:3.

Mathematically that is true. However the way it is layed out makes it more
convenient for side-by-side documents.'

jue
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 1:50 am
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In article <MPG.21e9c6fdbce0c5c29898cc RemoveThis @news.verizon.net>,
first.last RemoveThis @verizon.net says...

> If you are serious about image editing, you need as much RAM as the
> laptop/OS can use.

Sure, but most notebook computers are limited to 2-3 GB max, or do you
know of a (Windows) notebook which will take more than that?
--

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