Adobe Lightroom

In article <n3rbs2pu18tifboipt0ptf3bq9hojh181j.DeleteThis@4ax.com>, Richard Smith
<dicsmith.DeleteThis@googlemail.com> wrote:

> I'm one of those lucky folks (I think) who qualifies for a free
> version of Lightroom 1.0 because I had purchased RawShooter just
> before Adobe bought it. I thought I read somewhere that Adobe had
> finally released it, yet all I find on their site is the beta version.
> I'm in the process of switching over to an Apple, and would of course
> love to start with a download of Lightroom. Am I wrong in believing it
> has been released?

Not yet. April 30th, IIRC.

If you're switching to Apple, you might like Aperture much better.
Give their free trial a chance. I've used both, and the choice is
clear to me, even if I were to have the opportunity to get LR free.

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On Sun, 04 Feb 2007 09:27:35 -0500, Richard Smith
<dicsmith.TakeThisOut@googlemail.com> wrote:

>I'm one of those lucky folks (I think) who qualifies for a free
>version of Lightroom 1.0 because I had purchased RawShooter just
>before Adobe bought it. I thought I read somewhere that Adobe had
>finally released it, yet all I find on their site is the beta version.
>I'm in the process of switching over to an Apple, and would of course
>love to start with a download of Lightroom. Am I wrong in believing it
>has been released?

Here's a link to the release (on the Adobe Web site):

http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshoplightroom/

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In article <62vbs2d16sed06hgbavihb5om6pokgenn5.TakeThisOut@4ax.com>, Hal Lowe
<hallowe.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote:

> On Sun, 04 Feb 2007 09:27:35 -0500, Richard Smith
> <dicsmith.TakeThisOut@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> >I'm one of those lucky folks (I think) who qualifies for a free
> >version of Lightroom 1.0 because I had purchased RawShooter just
> >before Adobe bought it. I thought I read somewhere that Adobe had
> >finally released it, yet all I find on their site is the beta version.
> >I'm in the process of switching over to an Apple, and would of course
> >love to start with a download of Lightroom. Am I wrong in believing it
> >has been released?
>
> Here's a link to the release (on the Adobe Web site):
>
> http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshoplightroom/

Ah.

<Emily Litella voice>
"Nevermind"
</voice>

Ignore my recollecions on my previous post, then - it was the fact that
it is /discounted/ until April 30th that stuck in my mind.

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Ken Lucke wrote:
> In article <62vbs2d16sed06hgbavihb5om6pokgenn5.RemoveThis@4ax.com>, Hal Lowe
> <hallowe.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 04 Feb 2007 09:27:35 -0500, Richard Smith
>> <dicsmith.RemoveThis@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm one of those lucky folks (I think) who qualifies for a free
>>> version of Lightroom 1.0 because I had purchased RawShooter just
>>> before Adobe bought it. I thought I read somewhere that Adobe had
>>> finally released it, yet all I find on their site is the beta version.
>>> I'm in the process of switching over to an Apple, and would of course
>>> love to start with a download of Lightroom. Am I wrong in believing it
>>> has been released?
>> Here's a link to the release (on the Adobe Web site):
>>
>> http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshoplightroom/

> Ignore my recollecions on my previous post, then - it was the fact that
> it is /discounted/ until April 30th that stuck in my mind.

Also, ignore Ken's reommendation of Aperture over LR!

<s>

Seriously, both are fine products, and I wouldn't judge LR until at
least v.1. I've worked with 3 of the betas, and the improvements I have
read about in the first release are many.

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In article <puWdnXNIN_D_qVvYnZ2dnUVZ_tzinZ2d.RemoveThis@comcast.com>, John
McWilliams <jpmcw.RemoveThis@comcast.net> wrote:

> Ken Lucke wrote:
> > In article <62vbs2d16sed06hgbavihb5om6pokgenn5.RemoveThis@4ax.com>, Hal Lowe
> > <hallowe.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On Sun, 04 Feb 2007 09:27:35 -0500, Richard Smith
> >> <dicsmith.RemoveThis@googlemail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I'm one of those lucky folks (I think) who qualifies for a free
> >>> version of Lightroom 1.0 because I had purchased RawShooter just
> >>> before Adobe bought it. I thought I read somewhere that Adobe had
> >>> finally released it, yet all I find on their site is the beta version.
> >>> I'm in the process of switching over to an Apple, and would of course
> >>> love to start with a download of Lightroom. Am I wrong in believing it
> >>> has been released?
> >> Here's a link to the release (on the Adobe Web site):
> >>
> >> http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshoplightroom/
>
> > Ignore my recollecions on my previous post, then - it was the fact that
> > it is /discounted/ until April 30th that stuck in my mind.
>
> Also, ignore Ken's reommendation of Aperture over LR!
>
> <s>

<Foghorn Leghorn voice>
Suh, ah say, Suh, them's fightin' words... draw your sword....
</Foghorn>


Actually, he's right, they're both good. But, after using both, I'll
defend my choice of Aperture's strengths and features any day. And, as
you said you are moving to an Apple platform, there's sense in using an
Apple-specific program, especially when it's better.

Bottom line is, as I said, try both. Apple's got a free trial version,
so it can't cost you anything.

--
You need only reflect that one of the best ways to get yourself a
reputation as a dangerous citizen these days is to go about repeating
the very phrases which our founding fathers used in the struggle for
independence.
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Ken Lucke wrote:
> In article <puWdnXNIN_D_qVvYnZ2dnUVZ_tzinZ2d.RemoveThis@comcast.com>, John
> McWilliams <jpmcw.RemoveThis@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> Ken Lucke wrote:
>>> In article <62vbs2d16sed06hgbavihb5om6pokgenn5.RemoveThis@4ax.com>, Hal Lowe
>>> <hallowe.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 04 Feb 2007 09:27:35 -0500, Richard Smith
>>>> <dicsmith.RemoveThis@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I'm one of those lucky folks (I think) who qualifies for a free
>>>>> version of Lightroom 1.0 because I had purchased RawShooter just
>>>>> before Adobe bought it. I thought I read somewhere that Adobe had
>>>>> finally released it, yet all I find on their site is the beta version.
>>>>> I'm in the process of switching over to an Apple, and would of course
>>>>> love to start with a download of Lightroom. Am I wrong in believing it
>>>>> has been released?
>>>> Here's a link to the release (on the Adobe Web site):
>>>>
>>>> http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshoplightroom/
>>> Ignore my recollecions on my previous post, then - it was the fact that
>>> it is /discounted/ until April 30th that stuck in my mind.
>> Also, ignore Ken's reommendation of Aperture over LR!
>>
>> <s>
>
> <Foghorn Leghorn voice>
> Suh, ah say, Suh, them's fightin' words... draw your sword....
> </Foghorn>
>
>
> Actually, he's right, they're both good. But, after using both, I'll
> defend my choice of Aperture's strengths and features any day. And, as
> you said you are moving to an Apple platform, there's sense in using an
> Apple-specific program, especially when it's better.
>
> Bottom line is, as I said, try both. Apple's got a free trial version,
> so it can't cost you anything.

Ahs say, Suh, you neglect to mention LR does, too. Adobe.com

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Richard Smith <dicsmith.TakeThisOut@googlemail.com> wrote:
> I'm one of those lucky folks (I think) who qualifies for a free
> version of Lightroom 1.0 because I had purchased RawShooter just
> before Adobe bought it. I thought I read somewhere that Adobe had
> finally released it, yet all I find on their site is the beta version.
> I'm in the process of switching over to an Apple, and would of course
> love to start with a download of Lightroom. Am I wrong in believing it
> has been released?

Yes, I called them about the upgrade and they didn't have a clue what I was
talking about. Further, they didn't even have the bits to accept an order had
I been spending money. What a disorganized bunch of louts.

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Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote:
> Richard Smith <dicsmith.DeleteThis@googlemail.com> wrote:
>> I'm one of those lucky folks (I think) who qualifies for a free
>> version of Lightroom 1.0 because I had purchased RawShooter just
>> before Adobe bought it. I thought I read somewhere that Adobe had
>> finally released it, yet all I find on their site is the beta version.
>> I'm in the process of switching over to an Apple, and would of course
>> love to start with a download of Lightroom. Am I wrong in believing it
>> has been released?
>
> Yes, I called them about the upgrade and they didn't have a clue what I was
> talking about. Further, they didn't even have the bits to accept an order had
> I been spending money. What a disorganized bunch of louts.

Had you read this thread in full, you'd have known that it isn't
shipping yet. If you are that unhappy, you might be able to sell your
license.

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Ken Lucke <ken.DeleteThis@glass-stones.com> wrote:
>
> Not yet. April 30th, IIRC.
>
> If you're switching to Apple, you might like Aperture much better.
> Give their free trial a chance. I've used both, and the choice is
> clear to me, even if I were to have the opportunity to get LR free.
>

It is supposed to be available right now.

http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshoplightroom/

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John McWilliams <jpmcw DeleteThis @comcast.net> wrote:
> Agreed.
>
> You are aware that there'll be a 30 day trial of LR that should be
> available on or shortly after the 19th?
>

Standard Adobe practice. As long as they get me a key prior to that 30 day
expiration, I will be happy, as they have already promised this to us in
writing [via the pixmatic website].

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John McWilliams <jpmcw DeleteThis @comcast.net> wrote:
>
> Had you read this thread in full, you'd have known that it isn't
> shipping yet. If you are that unhappy, you might be able to sell your
> license.
>

Their website indicates you can order it now for $199. It doesn't say
anything at all about delayed shipping.

As far as being unhappy, I am simply unhappy with their LOS.

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Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote:
> John McWilliams <jpmcw RemoveThis @comcast.net> wrote:
>> Had you read this thread in full, you'd have known that it isn't
>> shipping yet. If you are that unhappy, you might be able to sell your
>> license.
>
> Their website indicates you can order it now for $199. It doesn't say
> anything at all about delayed shipping.
>
> As far as being unhappy, I am simply unhappy with their LOS.

There is a lot of info out there, and the release date is hardly a secret.

LOS? TOS? What are you unhappy about if it's the latter. If former, what
does that mean?

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John McWilliams <jpmcw DeleteThis @comcast.net> wrote:
> Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote:
>> John McWilliams <jpmcw DeleteThis @comcast.net> wrote:
>>> Had you read this thread in full, you'd have known that it isn't
>>> shipping yet. If you are that unhappy, you might be able to sell your
>>> license.
>>
>> Their website indicates you can order it now for $199. It doesn't say
>> anything at all about delayed shipping.
>>
>> As far as being unhappy, I am simply unhappy with their LOS.
>
> There is a lot of info out there, and the release date is hardly a secret.
>
> LOS? TOS? What are you unhappy about if it's the latter. If former, what
> does that mean?
>

LOS = "Level Of Service".

When you call up the sales number that they post on the Lightroom site, their
CSRs do not know anything and, in fact, are quite clueless about the lightroom
release itself little enough the fact that their is a free upgrade for RSP
owners. They should at least be trained to field calls that are directed to
them from their own website.

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