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Ali

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 8:22 pm
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I photographed a diamond ring recently, but the final images lack 'sparkle'.
Any tricks and tips for adding a 'sparkle' to it post process?

The ideal result I am looking for is very subtle. A bit like a catch light
in the eyes, where it adds sparkle, but most people wouldn't really notice
it too much.

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 8:22 pm
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"Ali" <me RemoveThis @privacy.net> wrote in message
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>I photographed a diamond ring recently, but the final images lack
>'sparkle'. Any tricks and tips for adding a 'sparkle' to it post process?
>
> The ideal result I am looking for is very subtle. A bit like a catch
> light in the eyes, where it adds sparkle, but most people wouldn't really
> notice it too much.

Filter - Render - Lens Flare (on a layer above. Create a spot, flare it.
Change size. Change layer tranparency.) Not great, but maybe you can make it
work.

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 8:22 pm
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John McWilliams

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 8:22 pm
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Ali wrote:
> I photographed a diamond ring recently, but the final images lack
> 'sparkle'. Any tricks and tips for adding a 'sparkle' to it post process?
>
> The ideal result I am looking for is very subtle. A bit like a catch
> light in the eyes, where it adds sparkle, but most people wouldn't
> really notice it too much.

Shoot them over. Experiment with light at different angles. Unless
you're an expert in PS, you'll get better results this way.

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john mcwilliams
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Bob Williams

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 2:58 am
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Ali wrote:
> I photographed a diamond ring recently, but the final images lack
> 'sparkle'. Any tricks and tips for adding a 'sparkle' to it post process?
>
> The ideal result I am looking for is very subtle. A bit like a catch
> light in the eyes, where it adds sparkle, but most people wouldn't
> really notice it too much.
Do what the jewelery stores do.
Use 2-3 TINY halogen lights positioned about 5-6 feet away at various
angles to the diamond.
Bob Williams
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frederick

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 4:08 am
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pico wrote:
> "Ali" <me.RemoveThis@privacy.net> wrote in message
> news:VPadnX7LQbyF14PanZ2dnUVZ8q6unZ2d@pipex.net...
>> I photographed a diamond ring recently, but the final images lack
>> 'sparkle'. Any tricks and tips for adding a 'sparkle' to it post process?
>>
>> The ideal result I am looking for is very subtle. A bit like a catch
>> light in the eyes, where it adds sparkle, but most people wouldn't really
>> notice it too much.
>
> Filter - Render - Lens Flare (on a layer above. Create a spot, flare it.
> Change size. Change layer tranparency.) Not great, but maybe you can make it
> work.
>
>

Freeware "the Gimp" has much better choice and
implementation of lens flare / starburst / sparkle etc flare
effect filter choices than Photoshop without third party
plugins.

I use both PS and Gimp - there are a few things where the
Gimp exceeds PS, and for what you need to do, it's one of
those cases.
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RC_Moonpie

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 4:08 am
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 4:08 am
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RC_Moonpie wrote:
> On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 09:14:49 +1300, frederick <lost.DeleteThis@sea.com> wrote:
>
>> pico wrote:
>>> "Ali" <me.DeleteThis@privacy.net> wrote in message
>>> news:VPadnX7LQbyF14PanZ2dnUVZ8q6unZ2d@pipex.net...
>>>> I photographed a diamond ring recently, but the final images lack
>>>> 'sparkle'. Any tricks and tips for adding a 'sparkle' to it post process?
>>>>
>>>> The ideal result I am looking for is very subtle. A bit like a catch
>>>> light in the eyes, where it adds sparkle, but most people wouldn't really
>>>> notice it too much.
>>> Filter - Render - Lens Flare (on a layer above. Create a spot, flare it.
>>> Change size. Change layer tranparency.) Not great, but maybe you can make it
>>> work.
>>>
>>>
>> Freeware "the Gimp" has much better choice and
>> implementation of lens flare / starburst / sparkle etc flare
>> effect filter choices than Photoshop without third party
>> plugins.
>>
>> I use both PS and Gimp - there are a few things where the
>> Gimp exceeds PS, and for what you need to do, it's one of
>> those cases.
>
>
> Does Gimp work on hi resolution CMYK files?
>
>
Who cares?
Did the OP ask this? Most people have no need for CMYK
files. If you do, then use PS.
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Andrew Morton

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 8:33 am
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Ali wrote:
> I photographed a diamond ring recently, but the final images lack
> 'sparkle'. Any tricks and tips for adding a 'sparkle' to it post
> process?
> The ideal result I am looking for is very subtle. A bit like a catch
> light in the eyes, where it adds sparkle, but most people wouldn't
> really notice it too much.

How about using a star filter on the lens?
http://www.tiffen.com/star_filters.htm

Andrew
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RC_Moonpie

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(Msg. 10) Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 9:39 am
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Allen

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(Msg. 11) Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 9:51 am
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frederick wrote:
> RC_Moonpie wrote:
>> On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 09:14:49 +1300, frederick <lost.DeleteThis@sea.com> wrote:
>>
>>> pico wrote:
>>>> "Ali" <me.DeleteThis@privacy.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:VPadnX7LQbyF14PanZ2dnUVZ8q6unZ2d@pipex.net...
>>>>> I photographed a diamond ring recently, but the final images lack
>>>>> 'sparkle'. Any tricks and tips for adding a 'sparkle' to it post
>>>>> process?
>>>>>
>>>>> The ideal result I am looking for is very subtle. A bit like a
>>>>> catch light in the eyes, where it adds sparkle, but most people
>>>>> wouldn't really notice it too much.
>>>> Filter - Render - Lens Flare (on a layer above. Create a spot, flare
>>>> it. Change size. Change layer tranparency.) Not great, but maybe you
>>>> can make it work.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Freeware "the Gimp" has much better choice and implementation of lens
>>> flare / starburst / sparkle etc flare effect filter choices than
>>> Photoshop without third party plugins.
>>>
>>> I use both PS and Gimp - there are a few things where the Gimp
>>> exceeds PS, and for what you need to do, it's one of those cases.
>>
>>
>> Does Gimp work on hi resolution CMYK files?
>>
>>
> Who cares?
> Did the OP ask this? Most people have no need for CMYK files. If you
> do, then use PS.
Appropriate that frederick would chime in on this thread with such a
"jewel" of a post; his phony address--lost@sea--certains describes him.
As to your question--I suppose you might be able to accomplish your goal
with postprocessing, but for future attempts, lighting from just the
right angle is probably the best approach. One of thebeauties of digital
is tye ability to see results immediately, and to be able to keep trying
until you get just the effect you want, at the expense of just a little
battery life. Oh, goodbye, frederick--welcome to killsville, where you
will find yourself amid many other gracious, helpful souls.
Allen
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bugbear

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(Msg. 12) Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 9:56 am
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Rita Ä Berkowitz wrote:
> Ali wrote:
>
>> I photographed a diamond ring recently, but the final images lack
>> 'sparkle'. Any tricks and tips for adding a 'sparkle' to it post
>> process?
>
> Photographing diamonds, especially the internal fire, can be tough. Your
> best bet is to do some experimenting with multiple flash and snoots. There
> are a bunch of other tricks to get it just right. You can try
> www.strobist.com for the ultimate in jewelry and other flash photography
> tips.
>
> Here is what I got with my first attempt with multiple flash. While it is
> nowhere near good, it is a good starting point that demonstrates to me what
> can be done with multiple flash and a little patience.
>

You can always use a single light source, and multiple
photographs, if you can't afford multiple
light sources.

The photographs can then be composited, if all
taken from a locked out tripod.

You'll want a dark frame for this to be easy.

This from 1992... (!!)

http://www.graficaobscura.com/synth/index.html

BugBear
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 2:00 pm
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On Oct 23, 2:22 pm, "Ali" <m....DeleteThis@privacy.net> wrote:
> I photographed a diamond ring recently, but the final images lack 'sparkle'.
> Any tricks and tips for adding a 'sparkle' to it post process?
>
> The ideal result I am looking for is very subtle. A bit like a catch light
> in the eyes, where it adds sparkle, but most people wouldn't really notice
> it too much.

in The photoshop there is brush and you can add as many sparkles you
want :)there is no need for filters
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 5:54 pm
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Allen wrote:
> frederick wrote:
>> RC_Moonpie wrote:
>>> On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 09:14:49 +1300, frederick <lost DeleteThis @sea.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> pico wrote:
>>>>> "Ali" <me DeleteThis @privacy.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:VPadnX7LQbyF14PanZ2dnUVZ8q6unZ2d@pipex.net...
>>>>>> I photographed a diamond ring recently, but the final images lack
>>>>>> 'sparkle'. Any tricks and tips for adding a 'sparkle' to it post
>>>>>> process?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The ideal result I am looking for is very subtle. A bit like a
>>>>>> catch light in the eyes, where it adds sparkle, but most people
>>>>>> wouldn't really notice it too much.
>>>>> Filter - Render - Lens Flare (on a layer above. Create a spot,
>>>>> flare it. Change size. Change layer tranparency.) Not great, but
>>>>> maybe you can make it work.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Freeware "the Gimp" has much better choice and implementation of
>>>> lens flare / starburst / sparkle etc flare effect filter choices
>>>> than Photoshop without third party plugins.
>>>>
>>>> I use both PS and Gimp - there are a few things where the Gimp
>>>> exceeds PS, and for what you need to do, it's one of those cases.
>>>
>>>
>>> Does Gimp work on hi resolution CMYK files?
>>>
>>>
>> Who cares?
>> Did the OP ask this? Most people have no need for CMYK files. If you
>> do, then use PS.
> Appropriate that frederick would chime in on this thread with such a
> "jewel" of a post; his phony address--lost@sea--certains describes him.
> As to your question--I suppose you might be able to accomplish your goal
> with postprocessing, but for future attempts, lighting from just the
> right angle is probably the best approach. One of thebeauties of digital
> is tye ability to see results immediately, and to be able to keep trying
> until you get just the effect you want, at the expense of just a little
> battery life. Oh, goodbye, frederick--welcome to killsville, where you
> will find yourself amid many other gracious, helpful souls.
> Allen


LOL - you sanctimonious git.
The OP specifically asked for adding a "sparkle to it in
post process"
Gimp offers better tools to do that job than Photoshop.
CMYK is of little use to most photographers.
Get over it.
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 5:54 pm
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