Canon 10D - critical problem

spacemarine DeleteThis @mailinator.com wrote:
> hey folks.
>
> im experiencing something awful w/ my 10d... i take pictures, i view
> them in-camera, zoom in, etc. but i cant open ANY images on the
> desktop. lightroom & bridge show the images are garbage -- yellow
> blocks, weird lines, square artifacts, etc. i have tried win & mac.
> photoshop says it cant parse the files.
>
> and yet, they operatate in camera correctly... also, between shoots i
> formatted the card and began a new set, same proplem. its a 6mo-old
> lexar 1gb 133x smart media card.
>
> using lightrooms copy-as-dng didnt help either.
>
> anybody seen this or know what is wrong!? i have some one-of-a-kind
> images on here, how can i get them into a usable state...
>
>
> thanks,
> sm
>

Have you tried reading the card directly via a PC reader, rather than in
camera? It could be some sort of transfer issue/camera interface problem.


Clem
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<spacemarine.TakeThisOut@mailinator.com> wrote in message
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> On May 29, 10:37 am, spacemar....TakeThisOut@mailinator.com wrote:
>> im using the same card reader & cable w/ the lexar recovery tool
>> as i did w/ my initial transfer. didnt computer, a physical windows
>> box.
>
> that is, a "different" computer.
>
> the first addition test that comes to mind is using the camera's usb
> cable (v1, ugh!) on the initial mac, and see how that works w/
> lightroom's import.
>
>
> sm

make sure you have the latest firmware for your camera installed
or maybe try re-installing the firmware for the camera

FWIW
my old Minolta Dimage says never use the computer to re-format the cards
and to make sure to shut down the transfer before pulling the plugs out (it
beeps)

Canon does not say this but
we do the same with the Canon 10 D
100% of the time reformat in camera before shooting the next batch

I only use a card reader to get images off into comp, not through-the-camera
processing

have shot thousands of images on same cards that are supposed to wear down
eventually and have not
using lexar 33x and 80x speed cards
sizes from 256-2GB

you are going back and forth Mac to win to camera file systems
maybe confusing it?
or overwriting your firmware each time?
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On May 29, 3:35 pm, "KatWoman" <spamf....TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote:

> make sure you have the latest firmware for your camera installed
> or maybe try re-installing the firmware for the camera

not sure how firmware factors in -- i want to try to establish a test
that can shed light on which component in the transfer caused the
corruptions of multiple shoots. have had zero problems before now, and
havent touched the firmware in years, so i dont think thats a factor.

> my old Minolta Dimage says never use the computer to re-format the cards
> and to make sure to shut down the transfer before pulling the plugs out (it
> beeps)

interesting. lexar recommended the opposite for a clean format --
using a windows pc.


> we do the same with the Canon 10 D
> 100% of the time reformat in camera before shooting the next batch

i did this as well inbetween my shoots. both shoots were corrupted.

> you are going back and forth Mac to win to camera file systems
> maybe confusing it?

but im not. i use a mac, and then seeing the corruption tried the card
reader on my windows instance. in either case, nothing can "confuse"
the CF card reader, it doesnt have a processor. its just a cable.

> or overwriting your firmware each time?

not sure what you mean here, but the firmware on my camera hasnt
changed in years.

havnet had time to do my tests, hopefully tonite.


sm
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On 30 May 2007 12:43:34 -0700, spacemarine DeleteThis @mailinator.com wrote:

>On May 29, 3:35 pm, "KatWoman" <spamf... DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> make sure you have the latest firmware for your camera installed
>> or maybe try re-installing the firmware for the camera
>
>not sure how firmware factors in -- i want to try to establish a test
>that can shed light on which component in the transfer caused the
>corruptions of multiple shoots. have had zero problems before now, and
>havent touched the firmware in years, so i dont think thats a factor.
>
>> my old Minolta Dimage says never use the computer to re-format the cards
>> and to make sure to shut down the transfer before pulling the plugs out (it
>> beeps)
>
>interesting. lexar recommended the opposite for a clean format --
>using a windows pc.
>
>
>> we do the same with the Canon 10 D
>> 100% of the time reformat in camera before shooting the next batch
>
>i did this as well inbetween my shoots. both shoots were corrupted.
>
>> you are going back and forth Mac to win to camera file systems
>> maybe confusing it?
>
>but im not. i use a mac, and then seeing the corruption tried the card
>reader on my windows instance. in either case, nothing can "confuse"
>the CF card reader, it doesnt have a processor. its just a cable.
>
>> or overwriting your firmware each time?
>
>not sure what you mean here, but the firmware on my camera hasnt
>changed in years.
>
>havnet had time to do my tests, hopefully tonite.
>
>
>sm


First, if you were able to view the pictures on the camera's LCD
screen, and they looked fine, then the camera was working fine, and
the card was working fine, otherwise, the pictures would look bad on
the LCD screen.
The problem is either in the transfer to the computer, or the
computer. I would guess it's in the transfer, since the RAW or JPG
pictures that you transferred from past shoots is still viewable on
your computer.
Have you installed any new software lately? Maybe an upgrade to
something? Try running a virus check and a spyware check, just to
rule out those possibilities.

Talker
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<spacemarine RemoveThis @mailinator.com> wrote in message
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> On May 29, 3:35 pm, "KatWoman" <spamf... RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> make sure you have the latest firmware for your camera installed
>> or maybe try re-installing the firmware for the camera
>
> not sure how firmware factors in -- i want to try to establish a test
> that can shed light on which component in the transfer caused the
> corruptions of multiple shoots. have had zero problems before now, and
> havent touched the firmware in years, so i dont think thats a factor.
>
>> my old Minolta Dimage says never use the computer to re-format the cards
>> and to make sure to shut down the transfer before pulling the plugs out
>> (it
>> beeps)
>
> interesting. lexar recommended the opposite for a clean format --
> using a windows pc.
>
>
>> we do the same with the Canon 10 D
>> 100% of the time reformat in camera before shooting the next batch
>
> i did this as well in between my shoots. both shoots were corrupted.
>
>> you are going back and forth Mac to win to camera file systems
>> maybe confusing it?
>
> but im not. i use a mac, and then seeing the corruption tried the card
> reader on my windows instance. in either case, nothing can "confuse"
> the CF card reader, it doesnt have a processor. its just a cable.
>
>> or overwriting your firmware each time?
>
> not sure what you mean here, but the firmware on my camera hasnt
> changed in years.
>
> havnet had time to do my tests, hopefully tonite.
>
>
> sm

about confusion I was referring to the camera firmware which is recorded
onto each flash card when you format in camera
I was thinking maybe formatting in either computer may have corrupted the
file on the card, which in turn compromised the in camera firmware.
http://www.canon.co.jp/Imaging/EOS10D/10D_firmware-e.html

if the camera firmware is corrupted it will need a reinstall
it is easy to download from canon and if you haven't changed it there may be
an updated version out

one time I had a lexar card and no reader, I put the canon shots into the
Minolta and it killed the Minolta camera trying to read the card from the
Canon. Could not take a single shot on the Minolta after that, it would not
read any card, or record any images, cost $200 and 4 weeks to repair.

there are little pins that can get bent too so the prob could be physical
not software related

gl
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On Jun 1, 1:40 pm, "KatWoman" <spamf....TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote:

> I was thinking maybe formatting in either computer may have corrupted the
> file on the card, which in turn compromised the in camera firmware.http://www.canon.co.jp/Imaging/EOS10D/10D_firmware-e.html

well....i could be wrong, but i dont think its possible to corrupt the
camera's firmware. installing firmwares is a very detailed process and
i dont think formatting the card can effect camera firmware. im hoping
to have some extra time this weekend to do some diagnostics, ill post
what i find.


sm
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